win98 updates still available???

hi Group,

I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
app installations and de-installations that my registry
and hard drive have become a mess.

In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
are still available?

I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
at least up until the end of 2006.

Does anybody know if they are still available???

thanks in advance for any help, jw

John
Thu Feb 21 09:12:10 PST 2008

mr_unreliable wrote:
> hi Group,
>
> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
> app installations and de-installations that my registry
> and hard drive have become a mess.
>
> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
> are still available?
>
> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
> at least up until the end of 2006.
>
> Does anybody know if they are still available???
>
> thanks in advance for any help, jw
>
>

JW:

Yes. Updates are available IF you use Internet Explorer 6 to access
the update site. I did this a few weeks ago and it worked fine.

You can get IE 6 sp1 here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6&displaylang=en

HTH & GL

John

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PA
Thu Feb 21 10:46:01 PST 2008

Yes.

1. Install IE6 SP1.

2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and install all critical updates
offered.
--
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


mr_unreliable wrote:
> hi Group,
>
> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
> app installations and de-installations that my registry
> and hard drive have become a mess.
>
> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
> are still available?
>
> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
> at least up until the end of 2006.
>
> Does anybody know if they are still available???
>
> thanks in advance for any help, jw

Roger
Fri Feb 22 21:28:02 PST 2008

Please note that I'm not vouching for this - never used it - only mentioning
it because it exists:
http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/40/products_id/270
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

mr_unreliable wrote:
> hi Group,
>
> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
> app installations and de-installations that my registry
> and hard drive have become a mess.
>
> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
> are still available?
>
> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
> at least up until the end of 2006.
>
> Does anybody know if they are still available???
>
> thanks in advance for any help, jw

mm
Sat Feb 23 22:20:12 PST 2008

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable
<kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:

>hi Group,
>
>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
>app installations and de-installations that my registry
>and hard drive have become a mess.

What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC
regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which
is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use
one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the
registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that
it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision
whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The
one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final
approval.

As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes
with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use
their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget
what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.
(Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more
work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as
recommeneded)

I don't buy a new version of norton utilities very often, just because
they package one. You can get them second hand now at flea markets
for cheap.

The package still includes the original dos utilities too, such as
diskedit, which allows you, if you can manage to find the program or
data you are looking for, to make any change you want at almost any
point on the HD you want.

There are also two file compare programs iirc, fc.exe and the windows
thing. One only compares certain kinds of files but I think it is the
dos one that compares any two files. And they're smart enough that
just inserting an extra bite or many bytes in one of them doesn't mean
it will think every pair of bytes that follow don't match.

These dos utilities are in the directory, but not referenced by the
windows interface.
>
>In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
>has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
>are still available?
>
>I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
>microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
>at least up until the end of 2006.
>
>Does anybody know if they are still available???
>
>thanks in advance for any help, jw
>


If you are inclined to email me
for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

Brian
Sat Feb 23 23:03:01 PST 2008

"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable
> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>>hi Group,
>>
>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
>>app installations and de-installations that my registry
>>and hard drive have become a mess.
>
> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC
> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which
> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use
> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the
> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that
> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision
> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The
> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final
> approval.

Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is very ill
advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be safely
removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.

>
> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes
> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use
> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget
> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.
> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more
> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as
> recommeneded)

Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption, missing entries,
invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.


--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

mm
Sat Feb 23 23:37:45 PST 2008

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:03:01 -0600, "Brian A."
<gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable
>> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>hi Group,
>>>
>>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
>>>app installations and de-installations that my registry
>>>and hard drive have become a mess.
>>
>> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC
>> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which
>> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use
>> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the
>> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that
>> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision
>> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The
>> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final
>> approval.
>
> Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is very ill
>advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be safely
>removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.

Have you used Regclean**. While I was reluctant to delete things,
after studying its recommendations of various sorts, I don't think it
suggested removing anything that couldn't safely be removed.

**I think that is the one that is highly praised. Or maybe they both
are. Any reference below to one of them is subject to the OP's
verification of which is the highly praised one.

He could at least run the thing and see how many entries are
recommended for removal. Maybe there won't be as many as he expects
(although there were far more than I anticipated). Then he could
discuss them here or elsewhere, and thereby learn what could safely be
removed, and any that couldn't. How is he going to learn if he
doesn't try? Should he be forever a newbie?

For example, most lines in the registry that still point to files that
have been deleted can also be deleted. When would that not be true?

If you still disapprove of this, have YOU any suggestions for cleaning
up his registry?

Reinstalling Windows doesn't do anything for the registry afaik.

>> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes
>> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use
>> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget
>> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.
>> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more
>> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as
>> recommeneded)
>
> Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption, missing entries,
>invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.

I didn't say anything about that. I only referred to the Norton
version of defrag. It's called Speed Disk. Do you have objections to
using Speed Disk?

It might also be worth running System Check, WinDoctor, and Disk
Doctor in diagnosis mode only, and seeing what it says. One can learn
a lot about the way Windows works just by looking at the WinDoctor
complaints. One doesn't have to be brilliant to appreciate the
meaning of some of them.

Of course he should back up his harddrive periodically, such as just
before making any changes recommended by Regclean, and just before
making any changes with each and any one of the Norton utilities. And
he should allow a week or so to go buy between running each of these,
so if he causes any problem, he'll know which set of changes he made
caused them. But all that is a given.

If you are inclined to email me
for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

Brian
Sun Feb 24 01:37:15 PST 2008

"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:gg62s35v0h13nht499a17vek6fitir1bmo@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:03:01 -0600, "Brian A."
> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
>
>>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable
>>> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>hi Group,
>>>>
>>>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
>>>>app installations and de-installations that my registry
>>>>and hard drive have become a mess.
>>>
>>> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC
>>> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which
>>> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use
>>> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the
>>> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that
>>> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision
>>> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The
>>> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final
>>> approval.
>>
>> Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is very ill
>>advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be safely
>>removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.
>
> Have you used Regclean**. While I was reluctant to delete things,
> after studying its recommendations of various sorts, I don't think it
> suggested removing anything that couldn't safely be removed.

I have tested a gauntlet of registry editing and monitoring utilities including the
ones you mention. I stand pat on my thoughts that any user not versed in the
registry, removal of hives/keys and the consequences involved, stay away from it
unless they have the assistance of one that is versed.

Your statement alone "I don't think it suggested removing anything that couldn't
safely be removed" hardens my thoughts. Unless a user knows 100% that removal is not
going to cause any issues, that takes it back to user beware of what can, does and
eventially will happen once the delete is executed.

>
> **I think that is the one that is highly praised. Or maybe they both
> are. Any reference below to one of them is subject to the OP's
> verification of which is the highly praised one.
>
> He could at least run the thing and see how many entries are
> recommended for removal. Maybe there won't be as many as he expects
> (although there were far more than I anticipated). Then he could
> discuss them here or elsewhere, and thereby learn what could safely be
> removed, and any that couldn't. How is he going to learn if he
> doesn't try? Should he be forever a newbie?

If a user not versed chooses to delve into "cleaning" the registry without the
assistance of another that is versed and a hive/key is removed that shouldn't have
been, they'll have plenty of work on their hands so they won't be a forever newbie.

>
> For example, most lines in the registry that still point to files that
> have been deleted can also be deleted. When would that not be true?

If the file happens to be a shared file which other apps/programs use. Have you
been in dll hell before? It's not a pretty sight.

>
> If you still disapprove of this, have YOU any suggestions for cleaning
> up his registry?

Yes I do and No I don't. I can't suggest other than don't do it on such a crucial
OS element that I can't see.

>
> Reinstalling Windows doesn't do anything for the registry afaik.
>
>>> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes
>>> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use
>>> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget
>>> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.
>>> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more
>>> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as
>>> recommeneded)
>>
>> Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption, missing entries,
>>invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.
>
> I didn't say anything about that. I only referred to the Norton
> version of defrag. It's called Speed Disk. Do you have objections to
> using Speed Disk?

I have in the past and still at present use a few Symantec products, Norton
Utilities isn't and never will be one of them.

>
> It might also be worth running System Check, WinDoctor, and Disk
> Doctor in diagnosis mode only, and seeing what it says. One can learn
> a lot about the way Windows works just by looking at the WinDoctor
> complaints. One doesn't have to be brilliant to appreciate the
> meaning of some of them.
>
> Of course he should back up his harddrive periodically, such as just
> before making any changes recommended by Regclean, and just before
> making any changes with each and any one of the Norton utilities. And
> he should allow a week or so to go buy between running each of these,
> so if he causes any problem, he'll know which set of changes he made
> caused them. But all that is a given.
>
> If you are inclined to email me
> for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)


--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

RJK
Sun Feb 24 01:51:26 PST 2008

Quite right too !

I can't find the post now but, someone recently asked about IOLO's ..or
something like that, "Registry Mechanic," so just for fun I gave it a
whirl, ...my rating = same as almost alll of them - VERY POOR !
...apparantly it got a rave review in a magazine somewhere - I wonder why,
....I wonder who got the back-hander !

regards, Richard


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:%23MZ5ZjsdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:gg62s35v0h13nht499a17vek6fitir1bmo@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:03:01 -0600, "Brian A."
>> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
>>
>>>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>>news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable
>>>> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>hi Group,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
>>>>>app installations and de-installations that my registry
>>>>>and hard drive have become a mess.
>>>>
>>>> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC
>>>> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which
>>>> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use
>>>> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the
>>>> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that
>>>> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision
>>>> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The
>>>> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final
>>>> approval.
>>>
>>> Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is
>>> very ill
>>>advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be
>>>safely
>>>removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.
>>
>> Have you used Regclean**. While I was reluctant to delete things,
>> after studying its recommendations of various sorts, I don't think it
>> suggested removing anything that couldn't safely be removed.
>
> I have tested a gauntlet of registry editing and monitoring utilities
> including the ones you mention. I stand pat on my thoughts that any user
> not versed in the registry, removal of hives/keys and the consequences
> involved, stay away from it unless they have the assistance of one that is
> versed.
>
> Your statement alone "I don't think it suggested removing anything that
> couldn't safely be removed" hardens my thoughts. Unless a user knows 100%
> that removal is not going to cause any issues, that takes it back to user
> beware of what can, does and eventially will happen once the delete is
> executed.
>
>>
>> **I think that is the one that is highly praised. Or maybe they both
>> are. Any reference below to one of them is subject to the OP's
>> verification of which is the highly praised one.
>>
>> He could at least run the thing and see how many entries are
>> recommended for removal. Maybe there won't be as many as he expects
>> (although there were far more than I anticipated). Then he could
>> discuss them here or elsewhere, and thereby learn what could safely be
>> removed, and any that couldn't. How is he going to learn if he
>> doesn't try? Should he be forever a newbie?
>
> If a user not versed chooses to delve into "cleaning" the registry
> without the assistance of another that is versed and a hive/key is removed
> that shouldn't have been, they'll have plenty of work on their hands so
> they won't be a forever newbie.
>
>>
>> For example, most lines in the registry that still point to files that
>> have been deleted can also be deleted. When would that not be true?
>
> If the file happens to be a shared file which other apps/programs use.
> Have you been in dll hell before? It's not a pretty sight.
>
>>
>> If you still disapprove of this, have YOU any suggestions for cleaning
>> up his registry?
>
> Yes I do and No I don't. I can't suggest other than don't do it on such
> a crucial OS element that I can't see.
>
>>
>> Reinstalling Windows doesn't do anything for the registry afaik.
>>
>>>> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes
>>>> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use
>>>> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget
>>>> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.
>>>> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more
>>>> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as
>>>> recommeneded)
>>>
>>> Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption,
>>> missing entries,
>>>invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.
>>
>> I didn't say anything about that. I only referred to the Norton
>> version of defrag. It's called Speed Disk. Do you have objections to
>> using Speed Disk?
>
> I have in the past and still at present use a few Symantec products,
> Norton Utilities isn't and never will be one of them.
>
>>
>> It might also be worth running System Check, WinDoctor, and Disk
>> Doctor in diagnosis mode only, and seeing what it says. One can learn
>> a lot about the way Windows works just by looking at the WinDoctor
>> complaints. One doesn't have to be brilliant to appreciate the
>> meaning of some of them.
>>
>> Of course he should back up his harddrive periodically, such as just
>> before making any changes recommended by Regclean, and just before
>> making any changes with each and any one of the Norton utilities. And
>> he should allow a week or so to go buy between running each of these,
>> so if he causes any problem, he'll know which set of changes he made
>> caused them. But all that is a given.
>>
>> If you are inclined to email me
>> for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)
>
>
> --
>
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>

Gary
Sun Mar 02 15:20:20 PST 2008

I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as much as
Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD put
out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that previous
Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing. Email
updates_at_grystmill.com

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> hi Group,
>
> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
> app installations and de-installations that my registry
> and hard drive have become a mess.
>
> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
> are still available?
>
> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
> at least up until the end of 2006.
>
> Does anybody know if they are still available???
>
> thanks in advance for any help, jw
>
>

MEB
Sun Mar 02 17:53:57 PST 2008




"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as much as
| Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD
put
| out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that
previous
| Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing. Email
| updates_at_grystmill.com
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com

Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.

I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my testing
environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential creation of
a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after using
the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from the
catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as example] was
tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm - Manual
updates installation of 98SE after Security CD

--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


|
| "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > hi Group,
| >
| > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
| > app installations and de-installations that my registry
| > and hard drive have become a mess.
| >
| > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
| > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
| > are still available?
| >
| > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
| > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
| > at least up until the end of 2006.
| >
| > Does anybody know if they are still available???
| >
| > thanks in advance for any help, jw
| >
| >
|

Gary
Mon Mar 03 07:10:37 PST 2008

Well, without actually going through everything, yes, it looks about the
same. I did this back in March and have been pretty public about it. I'm
surprised that you're surprised.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eDOXrFNfIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as much
> as
> | Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD
> put
> | out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that
> previous
> | Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing.
> Email
> | updates_at_grystmill.com
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
>
> Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.
>
> I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my
> testing
> environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential creation
> of
> a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after
> using
> the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from the
> catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as example]
> was
> tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.
>
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm -
> Manual
> updates installation of 98SE after Security CD
>
> --
>
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> _________
>
>
> |
> | "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > hi Group,
> | >
> | > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
> | > app installations and de-installations that my registry
> | > and hard drive have become a mess.
> | >
> | > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
> | > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
> | > are still available?
> | >
> | > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
> | > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
> | > at least up until the end of 2006.
> | >
> | > Does anybody know if they are still available???
> | >
> | > thanks in advance for any help, jw
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

MEB
Mon Mar 03 08:55:13 PST 2008

Well, perhaps I mis-understood, though more likely forgot ... anyway, I
guess this aspect is covered then. Oh I was going to add a link to your site
or your mail request link, but hadn't seen you much to ask if you wanted one
and whether you intend to continue producing these CDs for the foreseeable
future...

I'm thinking about doing a few more, such as without the SecCD, without
IE6 - these with links to Microsoft Downloads or offsite links if necessary;
and one from 2004-10/2005 for historical reference [a 96k iuhist] or perhaps
purists. Anyone done these yet that you know of?

--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:umtjAEUfIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Well, without actually going through everything, yes, it looks about the
| same. I did this back in March and have been pretty public about it. I'm
| surprised that you're surprised.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:eDOXrFNfIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >
| >
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as
much
| > as
| > | Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates
CD
| > put
| > | out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that
| > previous
| > | Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing.
| > Email
| > | updates_at_grystmill.com
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| >
| > Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.
| >
| > I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my
| > testing
| > environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential
creation
| > of
| > a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after
| > using
| > the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from
the
| > catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as example]
| > was
| > tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.
| >
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm -
| > Manual
| > updates installation of 98SE after Security CD
| >
| > --
| >
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > _________
| >
| >
| > |
| > | "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > hi Group,
| > | >
| > | > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
| > | > app installations and de-installations that my registry
| > | > and hard drive have become a mess.
| > | >
| > | > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
| > | > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
| > | > are still available?
| > | >
| > | > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
| > | > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
| > | > at least up until the end of 2006.
| > | >
| > | > Does anybody know if they are still available???
| > | >
| > | > thanks in advance for any help, jw
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

Gary
Mon Mar 03 09:23:42 PST 2008

I figure on maintaining for as long as I can. Yes, others have done other
things. Unofficial SP2, etc.

Link if you want to.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%238RdK9UfIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Well, perhaps I mis-understood, though more likely forgot ... anyway, I
> guess this aspect is covered then. Oh I was going to add a link to your
> site
> or your mail request link, but hadn't seen you much to ask if you wanted
> one
> and whether you intend to continue producing these CDs for the foreseeable
> future...
>
> I'm thinking about doing a few more, such as without the SecCD, without
> IE6 - these with links to Microsoft Downloads or offsite links if
> necessary;
> and one from 2004-10/2005 for historical reference [a 96k iuhist] or
> perhaps
> purists. Anyone done these yet that you know of?
>
> --
>
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> _________
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:umtjAEUfIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Well, without actually going through everything, yes, it looks about the
> | same. I did this back in March and have been pretty public about it. I'm
> | surprised that you're surprised.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:eDOXrFNfIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as
> much
> | > as
> | > | Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security
> Updates
> CD
> | > put
> | > | out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that
> | > previous
> | > | Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing.
> | > Email
> | > | updates_at_grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | >
> | > Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.
> | >
> | > I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my
> | > testing
> | > environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential
> creation
> | > of
> | > a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after
> | > using
> | > the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from
> the
> | > catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as
> example]
> | > was
> | > tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.
> | >
> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm -
> | > Manual
> | > updates installation of 98SE after Security CD
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | > |
> | > | "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in
> message
> | > | news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > hi Group,
> | > | >
> | > | > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many
> | > | > app installations and de-installations that my registry
> | > | > and hard drive have become a mess.
> | > | >
> | > | > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support
> | > | > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates
> | > | > are still available?
> | > | >
> | > | > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently
> | > | > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --
> | > | > at least up until the end of 2006.
> | > | >
> | > | > Does anybody know if they are still available???
> | > | >
> | > | > thanks in advance for any help, jw
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

mike
Tue Mar 04 18:27:07 PST 2008

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> I figure on maintaining for as long as I can. Yes, others have done
> other things. Unofficial SP2, etc.
>
> Link if you want to.
>
Win98SE with the unofficial SP2 and universal usb drivers works pretty well.
mike

--
Return address is VALID!

Gary
Wed Mar 05 06:39:11 PST 2008

Far as I'm concerned, that "everything including the kitchen sink" approach
that the your particular unofficial SP2 uses sounds VERY iffy, but to each
his own.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%xnzj.14388$ES.1747@trnddc05...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> I figure on maintaining for as long as I can. Yes, others have done other
>> things. Unofficial SP2, etc.
>>
>> Link if you want to.
>>
> Win98SE with the unofficial SP2 and universal usb drivers works pretty
> well.
> mike
>
> --
> Return address is VALID!