MEB
Sat Apr 12 22:51:24 PDT 2008
Well, I must say that somewhat surprises me as well, that is not what is
generally found [generally the first failure encountered].
It would be interesting to know the manufacturer and model for that USB
mouse, so others might find this on the net for their attempts.
Might be wise to put up the motherboard/computer manufacturer and model as
well. This would, perhaps, allow placement of the chipset information.
Seems you may have USB compatibility/PS2 emulation in-built and turned on
by default.
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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:urhoL7OnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| Just a followup. I can't believe I missed something here!
|
| On a hunch, I tried loading "mouse.exe", and THAT worked in DOS - without
| ANY of these other USB drivers.
|
| I think I've been spinning my wheels on something that wasn't a problem to
| begin with, in that I never explicitly loaded a mouse driver, per se, (I
| just assumed the old Microsoft "mouse.exe" driver (dated 1999!) would NOT
be
| compatible with USB mice). Duh to me.
|
| Wonder if that hadn't worked if using a serial port PCI I/O card with a
| serial mouse or PS/2 would have worked.
|
| Interesting.
|
| Thanks, MEB.
|
|
| Bill in Co. wrote:
| > Thanks MEB, there is a lot here to digest, and I am working on it! So
| > thanks for all this info so far! Some (a lot) of the DOS drivers I've
| > seen already are only for "Mass Storage" devices, however. (I did
not
| > look at DOS replacement yet (and hope not to need to go there - I'm not
| > that
| > much into DOS usage to warrant that. :-)
| >
| > Just on the off chance that I can't find a working DOS driver (for my
USB
| > optical mouse), I was wondering about this, as a possible fallback
option:
| >
| > I have seen a Serial Port PCI I/O card, which says it is DOS
compatible,
| > so
| > if I get a Serial (or PS/2) mouse, shouldn't that work (as a last
resort),
| > no matter what?
| >
| > Actually, I'd probably get a PS/2 mouse, and a PS/2-to-Serial adapter to
| > plug into the Serial PCI card. (I haven't found any "PS/2" PCI I/O
| > cards yet, so that's why the serial card)
| >
| > My guess is also that a serial *optical* mouse might be a bit of a
stretch
| > for working out ok in DOS (since a standard mouse is a lot simpler,
| > technically), but I'm not sure.
| >
| >
| >
| > MEB wrote:
| >> My first suggestion would be to look on usbman for drivers.
| >>
| >> Second, does the BIOS offer PS2 emulation?
| >> ----------
| >> There have been times, depending upon the manufacturer, that DOS
drivers
| >> were produced for older mouse models, but will provide support for
newer
| >> models [sometimes even other manufacturer's models].
| >>
| >> There were cards produced to provide PS2 addin, many of those were ISA,
| >> though some were PCI.
| >>
| >>
http://www.driverforum.com/inputdevice3/820.html
| >>
http://www.mdgx.com/drv.htm
| >>
http://www.computing.net/dos/wwwboard/forum/13447.html -towards the
| >> bottom
| >> of the page discussing the Panasonic driver used with optical mouse
| >> though
| >> WITH USB legacy support [showing file configs]. Perhaps a bit of
playing
| >> around with that driver might produce results..
| >>
| >> There were also several commercial DOS USB drivers written, though
never
| >> free.
| >>
| >> Some have used the 98 USB driver sys file to provide support [also in
| >> 2000,
| >> XP] when loaded in config.sys for DOS box usage.
| >> hidusb.sys [included in: DDK, several mouse driver installations,
| >> upgrades/patches to 2000-XP]
| >>
http://www.usb-drivers.com/drivers/16/16047.htm
| >>
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/usb/usbfaq_intro.mspx
| >>
| >> And finally, did you check any of the free DOS replacement OSs?
| >>
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| >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| >> news:e6z0jTFnIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >>> (Before anyone asks: yes, I know there are a couple of DOS newsgroups
| >>> on
| >>> the microsoft server, but they are unpopulated (been "there" already).
| >>>
| >>> I'm looking for a USB mouse driver for DOS access (for a new Dell
| >>> without
| >>> USB legacy BIOS support). Some boot disks use DOS, but I can't find
| >>> any
| >>> USB mouse drivers that work for me. I've been doing some research on
| >>> the
| >>> net, and in the Dell user forums, and know some such drivers do exist,
| >>> but:
| >>>
| >>> 1. There is no legacy USB support "option" in my new Dell computer's
| >>> BIOS,
| >>> but the "USB controller" option in BIOS is enabled, of course.
| >>>
| >>> 2. I've tried "usbmice" (with OCHI and UHCI drivers), and also DUSE,
| >>> but
| >>> none of them work on my PC with a simple optical mouse. Does
anybody
| >>> know
| >>> of any others?
| >>>
| >>> 3. If a driver doesn't exist that will work on this PC, would it
| >>> instead
| >>> be
| >>> possible to add some I/O card (or a PS/2 card) and get a PS/2 mouse
| >>> instead,
| >>> or something along those lines, to allow for mouse support (in these
DOS
| >>> boot disks, or other DOS apps)?
| >>>
| >>> Thanks, if anyone has any ideas!
| >>>
| >>> Bill
|
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