I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
specially when I try to update or if I stop.
Sol

Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Wed May 28 13:03:51 PDT 2008

Be sure to physically disconnect your machine from the internet before
running these tests.

So uninstall it. Then try a Clean Boot setup, first, before reinstalling.
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

See if it runs OK. If not, give up. Or figure out how to search and get
answers from SpyBot's own support pages. If it runs OK under Clean Boot (do
not connect to the internet, do not Update definitions, just run it),
restore normal functioning and see what happens. If you still get the
crashes, then you have a conflict with some application that's running in
the background. If so, that will require long and tedious testing using
MSCONFIG, disabling ONE app, restarting, testing, disabling the next one,
etc.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OjKE9tPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
> specially when I try to update or if I stop.
> Sol
>
>


Re: Spybot Crashes by Nigel

Nigel
Wed May 28 14:23:50 PDT 2008

S1L1Y1 wrote:
> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
> specially when I try to update or if I stop.
> Sol

If you get a message saying:

"Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address
FFFFFFFF."

the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

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Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Wed May 28 14:43:25 PDT 2008

Huh!?! Spybot has some tie-in with Dr Watson? Any documentation on this?

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"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
>> specially when I try to update or if I stop.
>> Sol
>
> If you get a message saying:
>
> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address
> FFFFFFFF."
>
> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Nigel Stapley
>
> www.thejudge.me.uk
>
> <reply-to will bounce>


Re: Spybot Crashes by PA

PA
Wed May 28 14:52:12 PDT 2008

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/
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AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

S1L1Y1 wrote:
> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
> specially when I try to update or if I stop.
> Sol

Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Wed May 28 15:03:54 PDT 2008

Maybe this one? (No search function in those forums.)
http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=4799

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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O51B43QwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Spybot Support Forums
> http://forums.spybot.info/ --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
>> specially when I try to update or if I stop.
>> Sol


Re: Spybot Crashes by S1L1Y1

S1L1Y1
Wed May 28 17:40:00 PDT 2008

Thank You. Yes this is one of the messages I get. What do you mean by start
Dr. Watson?
Sol
"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> S1L1Y1 wrote:
> > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
> > specially when I try to update or if I stop.
> > Sol
>
> If you get a message saying:
>
> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address
> FFFFFFFF."
>
> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Nigel Stapley
>
> www.thejudge.me.uk
>
> <reply-to will bounce>



Re: Spybot Crashes by S1L1Y1

S1L1Y1
Wed May 28 17:46:47 PDT 2008

It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
Sol
"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> S1L1Y1 wrote:
> > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
> > specially when I try to update or if I stop.
> > Sol
>
> If you get a message saying:
>
> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address
> FFFFFFFF."
>
> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Nigel Stapley
>
> www.thejudge.me.uk
>
> <reply-to will bounce>



Re: Spybot Crashes by S1L1Y1

S1L1Y1
Wed May 28 17:49:33 PDT 2008

Ignore this message.
Sol
"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ep1SRSSwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thank You. Yes this is one of the messages I get. What do you mean by
start
> Dr. Watson?
> Sol
> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> > > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
> > > specially when I try to update or if I stop.
> > > Sol
> >
> > If you get a message saying:
> >
> > "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
> > violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address
> > FFFFFFFF."
> >
> > the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Nigel Stapley
> >
> > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >
> > <reply-to will bounce>
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Wed May 28 17:53:46 PDT 2008

Never mind. It finally clicked.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uX6XYvQwIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Huh!?! Spybot has some tie-in with Dr Watson? Any documentation on this?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> S1L1Y1 wrote:
>>> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
>>> specially when I try to update or if I stop.
>>> Sol
>>
>> If you get a message saying:
>>
>> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
>> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address
>> FFFFFFFF."
>>
>> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Nigel Stapley
>>
>> www.thejudge.me.uk
>>
>> <reply-to will bounce>
>


Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Wed May 28 19:36:41 PDT 2008

You mean this one? Or the one you just posted? Or the one wondering what was
meant by "start Dr Watson"? (Just joking, mostly. You meant the Dr Watson
one, right?)

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:urQzmXSwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ignore this message.
> Sol
> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ep1SRSSwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thank You. Yes this is one of the messages I get. What do you mean by
> start
>> Dr. Watson?
>> Sol
>> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
>> news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> > S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> > > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer
>> > > specially when I try to update or if I stop.
>> > > Sol
>> >
>> > If you get a message saying:
>> >
>> > "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access
>> > violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of
>> > address
>> > FFFFFFFF."
>> >
>> > the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Nigel Stapley
>> >
>> > www.thejudge.me.uk
>> >
>> > <reply-to will bounce>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Spybot Crashes by Nigel

Nigel
Wed May 28 22:57:30 PDT 2008

S1L1Y1 wrote:
> It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles
memory. I'm not convinced.

Glad it worked.


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Re: Spybot Crashes by MEB

MEB
Thu May 29 13:34:22 PDT 2008

Just curious, wasn't that supposedly fix [I remember the issue]?

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| S1L1Y1 wrote:
| > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
|
| I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles
| memory. I'm not convinced.
|
| Glad it worked.
|
|
| --
| Regards
|
| Nigel Stapley
|
| www.thejudge.me.uk
|
| <reply-to will bounce>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Jim

Jim
Thu Jun 05 19:37:23 PDT 2008

Which version of SpyBot S&D?

"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> S1L1Y1 wrote:
> > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
>
> I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles
> memory. I'm not convinced.
>
> Glad it worked.
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Nigel Stapley
>
> www.thejudge.me.uk
>
> <reply-to will bounce>



Re: Spybot Crashes by S1L1Y1

S1L1Y1
Sun Jun 08 10:32:58 PDT 2008

Version 1.5.2.20
"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Which version of SpyBot S&D?
>
> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> >
> > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles
> > memory. I'm not convinced.
> >
> > Glad it worked.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Nigel Stapley
> >
> > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >
> > <reply-to will bounce>
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Jim

Jim
Mon Jun 09 19:02:19 PDT 2008

I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once and
uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The new
v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though they
say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked like a
charm on win98?

"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Version 1.5.2.20
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
> >
> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> > >
> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
handles
> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
> > >
> > > Glad it worked.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Nigel Stapley
> > >
> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
> > >
> > > <reply-to will bounce>
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by PCR

PCR
Tue Jun 10 18:27:22 PDT 2008

Jim wrote:
| I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it
| once and uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4
| only. The new v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for
| win98/95 even though they say it is ok... Is it really any better
| than the v.1.4 which worked like a charm on win98?

Uhuh. I just took the download of SpybotSD152.exe (v.1.5.2)-- which is
9,772,720 bytes huge! Have you seen Terhune's suggestion on that...?...

......Quote Terhune's suggestion.........
Spybot S&D (do not install Tea-Timer, SDHelper or Immunization. Just use
for
static scanning on some schedule like weekly or monthly.
http://www.safer-networking.org/
......EOQ............................................

Did you install those extras to come to your assessment-- or did you
find v.1.5.2 kills resources even just running it statically?


| "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> Version 1.5.2.20
|> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
|> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
|> >
|> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
|> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
|> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
|> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
|> > >
|> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
|> > > handles memory. I'm not convinced.
|> > >
|> > > Glad it worked.
|> > >
|> > >
|> > > --
|> > > Regards
|> > >
|> > > Nigel Stapley
|> > >
|> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
|> > >
|> > > <reply-to will bounce>

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Should things get worse after this,
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Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Tue Jun 10 19:34:11 PDT 2008

Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests
(with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI drops
from 98% to 45%.

Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything but
static scanning.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once and
> uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The new
> v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though they
> say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked like a
> charm on win98?
>
> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Version 1.5.2.20
>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
>> >
>> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
>> > >
>> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
> handles
>> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
>> > >
>> > > Glad it worked.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Nigel Stapley
>> > >
>> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
>> > >
>> > > <reply-to will bounce>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Jim

Jim
Thu Jun 12 12:20:23 PDT 2008

It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives: System,User
and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties performance
tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on
v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think the
program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted zones
list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT "custom"
browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security settings
and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have certain
online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and ZA
FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and HP
systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as I
wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying to
be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests
> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI
drops
> from 98% to 45%.
>
> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything but
> static scanning.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once
and
> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The
new
> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though
they
> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked like
a
> > charm on win98?
> >
> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Version 1.5.2.20
> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
> >> >
> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> >> > >
> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
> > handles
> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
> >> > >
> >> > > Glad it worked.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Regards
> >> > >
> >> > > Nigel Stapley
> >> > >
> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >> > >
> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Thu Jun 12 12:53:45 PDT 2008

All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you
have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY
have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.

Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the RM
dropped to yellow/red?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:
> System,User
> and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties performance
> tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on
> v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think the
> program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
> zones
> list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
> "custom"
> browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security settings
> and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have certain
> online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and ZA
> FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and
> HP
> systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as I
> wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying to
> be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests
>> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
>> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI
> drops
>> from 98% to 45%.
>>
>> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything but
>> static scanning.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once
> and
>> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The
> new
>> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though
> they
>> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked
>> > like
> a
>> > charm on win98?
>> >
>> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> Version 1.5.2.20
>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
>> > handles
>> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Glad it worked.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Regards
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Nigel Stapley
>> >> > >
>> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
>> >> > >
>> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Jim

Jim
Thu Jun 12 17:09:51 PDT 2008

The latter.

Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if I
did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments are
for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just patches
from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had with
this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the Backweb/Infospace
server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard
Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical KB ~.
The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe; systray.exe;
LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have
MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you
> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY
> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
>
> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the RM
> dropped to yellow/red?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:
> > System,User
> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties
performance
> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on
> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think
the
> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
> > zones
> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
> > "custom"
> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security
settings
> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have
certain
> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and
ZA
> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and
> > HP
> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as
I
> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying
to
> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests
> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI
> > drops
> >> from 98% to 45%.
> >>
> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything
but
> >> static scanning.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it
once
> > and
> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.
The
> > new
> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though
> > they
> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked
> >> > like
> > a
> >> > charm on win98?
> >> >
> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
> >> > handles
> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Thu Jun 12 17:59:33 PDT 2008

First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all
it's supporting junk.

And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?

And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your
Resources went.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The latter.
>
> Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if I
> did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments
> are
> for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just
> patches
> from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had with
> this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the
> Backweb/Infospace
> server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
> hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard
> Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical KB
> ~.
> The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe;
> systray.exe;
> LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have
> MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you
>> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY
>> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
>>
>> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the
>> RM
>> dropped to yellow/red?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:
>> > System,User
>> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties
> performance
>> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features
>> > on
>> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think
> the
>> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
>> > zones
>> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
>> > "custom"
>> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security
> settings
>> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have
> certain
>> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and
> ZA
>> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard
>> > and
>> > HP
>> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as
> I
>> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying
> to
>> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run
>> >> tests
>> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
>> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI
>> > drops
>> >> from 98% to 45%.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything
> but
>> >> static scanning.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it
> once
>> > and
>> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.
> The
>> > new
>> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though
>> > they
>> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked
>> >> > like
>> > a
>> >> > charm on win98?
>> >> >
>> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
>> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way
>> >> >> > > 98
>> >> > handles
>> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > Regards
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Jim

Jim
Sat Jun 14 21:05:26 PDT 2008

Good points.
I have fiddled with them in the past, and may in the future. So I just left
them on. I should have written, with nothing on but windows and these
startup I am >58%. With just explorer on it is a wow >90%. How great win98
would have been without all the junk!

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ek5k4CPzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all
> it's supporting junk.
>
> And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?
>
> And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your
> Resources went.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > The latter.
> >
> > Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if
I
> > did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments
> > are
> > for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just
> > patches
> > from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had
with
> > this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the
> > Backweb/Infospace
> > server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
> > hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard
> > Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical
KB
> > ~.
> > The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe;
> > systray.exe;
> > LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have
> > MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow,
you
> >> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would
ONLY
> >> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
> >>
> >> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the
> >> RM
> >> dropped to yellow/red?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:
> >> > System,User
> >> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties
> > performance
> >> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features
> >> > on
> >> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I
think
> > the
> >> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
> >> > zones
> >> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
> >> > "custom"
> >> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security
> > settings
> >> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have
> > certain
> >> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast
and
> > ZA
> >> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard
> >> > and
> >> > HP
> >> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but
as
> > I
> >> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and
trying
> > to
> >> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run
> >> >> tests
> >> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
> >> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%.
GDI
> >> > drops
> >> >> from 98% to 45%.
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for
anything
> > but
> >> >> static scanning.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> http://grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it
> > once
> >> > and
> >> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.
> > The
> >> > new
> >> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even
though
> >> > they
> >> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which
worked
> >> >> > like
> >> > a
> >> >> > charm on win98?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
> >> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> >> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way
> >> >> >> > > 98
> >> >> > handles
> >> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Spybot Crashes by Gary

Gary
Sat Jun 14 21:39:51 PDT 2008

The "great" that could have been was if Bill (or whomever) hadn't limited
User and GDI Resources to such pitifully small amounts. That is THE fatal
flaw that killed Windows 9x.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:O1gZR0pzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Good points.
> I have fiddled with them in the past, and may in the future. So I just
> left
> them on. I should have written, with nothing on but windows and these
> startup I am >58%. With just explorer on it is a wow >90%. How great win98
> would have been without all the junk!
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ek5k4CPzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all
>> it's supporting junk.
>>
>> And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?
>>
>> And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your
>> Resources went.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > The latter.
>> >
>> > Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if
> I
>> > did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the
>> > arguments
>> > are
>> > for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just
>> > patches
>> > from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had
> with
>> > this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the
>> > Backweb/Infospace
>> > server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
>> > hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard
>> > Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical
> KB
>> > ~.
>> > The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe;
>> > systray.exe;
>> > LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have
>> > MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow,
> you