dueal boot - blue and white screen

On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to
install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and
ntdetect.com(47K).
With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K Pro
which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK
XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember, ntldr(211K)
and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced
them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several modes
of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the
computer.

I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)
from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same result,
i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.
But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of starting
W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among which
there are english patterns like
STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)
ASPI BIOS
"readme.txt"
http://www.hardware-update.com
<F&>
(I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer is
localised for Russia)

I placed the screenshot here:
www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

What might be the problem and the remedy?

Dave
Thu Mar 20 17:30:13 PDT 2008

It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use it
in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a boot
disk.

For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the
"NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a
DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy
Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the
boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.
Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating
system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive
(drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect

(watch for line wrap)



--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"aa" wrote:
> On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to
> install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and
> ntdetect.com(47K).
> With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K
> Pro
> which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK
> XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember, ntldr(211K)
> and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced
> them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.
>
> Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several modes
> of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the
> computer.
>
> I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)
> from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same result,
> i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.
> But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of
> starting
> W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among which
> there are english patterns like
> STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)
> ASPI BIOS
> "readme.txt"
> http://www.hardware-update.com
> <F&>
> (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer is
> localised for Russia)
>
> I placed the screenshot here:
> www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg
>
> What might be the problem and the remedy?
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 00:21:01 PDT 2008

Thanks, David.
I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic
(PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had
problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k
installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than itself. So
I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I
skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive

As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?
With W98 booting CD I can boot into DOS prompt, but it does not see NTFS
partition where boot.ini is sitting
The w2k installation disk goes directly to installation and does not seem to
offer booting to DOS prompt

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...
> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use
it
> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a
boot
> disk.
>
> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the
> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a
> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy
> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the
> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.
> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating
> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive
> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=10
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>
> (watch for line wrap)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "aa" wrote:
> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to
> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and
> > ntdetect.com(47K).
> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K
> > Pro
> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK
> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,
ntldr(211K)
> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced
> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.
> >
> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several
modes
> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the
> > computer.
> >
> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)
> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same
result,
> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.
> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of
> > starting
> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among
which
> > there are english patterns like
> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)
> > ASPI BIOS
> > "readme.txt"
> > http://www.hardware-update.com
> > <F&>
> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer
is
> > localised for Russia)
> >
> > I placed the screenshot here:
> > www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg
> >
> > What might be the problem and the remedy?
> >
> >
>

Pegasus
Fri Mar 21 00:33:44 PDT 2008

If you follow David's recommendation of booting the machine
with a boot diskette then you won't have a problem modifying
a:\boot.ini.

It appears from your post that you frequently use multi-booting.
If so then having a Bart PE boot CD (www.bootdisk.com)
is IMHO an absolute must. It gives you full access to any NTFS
(and FAT32) partition, regardless of the current state of you
Windows installation.


"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
news:elLPJQyiIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, David.
> I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic
> (PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had
> problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k
> installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than itself.
> So
> I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I
> skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive
>
> As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?
> With W98 booting CD I can boot into DOS prompt, but it does not see NTFS
> partition where boot.ini is sitting
> The w2k installation disk goes directly to installation and does not seem
> to
> offer booting to DOS prompt
>
> "Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????
> ?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...
>> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use
> it
>> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a
> boot
>> disk.
>>
>> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the
>> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a
>> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy
>> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the
>> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.
>> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating
>> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive
>> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.
>>
>> [boot loader]
>> timeout=10
>> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows
>> [operating systems]
>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"
>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"
>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"
>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"
>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>>
>> (watch for line wrap)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>>
>> "aa" wrote:
>> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to
>> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and
>> > ntdetect.com(47K).
>> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed
>> > W2K
>> > Pro
>> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK
>> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,
> ntldr(211K)
>> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I
>> > replaced
>> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.
>> >
>> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several
> modes
>> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the
>> > computer.
>> >
>> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and
>> > ntdetect.com(47K)
>> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same
> result,
>> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.
>> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of
>> > starting
>> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among
> which
>> > there are english patterns like
>> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)
>> > ASPI BIOS
>> > "readme.txt"
>> > http://www.hardware-update.com
>> > <F&>
>> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer
> is
>> > localised for Russia)
>> >
>> > I placed the screenshot here:
>> > www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg
>> >
>> > What might be the problem and the remedy?
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 00:53:02 PDT 2008

Thanks, Pegasus.
I cannot follow David's recomendation for the notebook in question has no
floppy drive
What is the alternative?


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> If you follow David's recommendation of booting the machine
> with a boot diskette then you won't have a problem modifying
> a:\boot.ini.
>
> It appears from your post that you frequently use multi-booting.
> If so then having a Bart PE boot CD (www.bootdisk.com)
> is IMHO an absolute must. It gives you full access to any NTFS
> (and FAT32) partition, regardless of the current state of you
> Windows installation.
>
>
> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
> news:elLPJQyiIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks, David.
> > I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic
> > (PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had
> > problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k
> > installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than
itself.
> > So
> > I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I
> > skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive
> >
> > As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?
> > With W98 booting CD I can boot into DOS prompt, but it does not see NTFS
> > partition where boot.ini is sitting
> > The w2k installation disk goes directly to installation and does not
seem
> > to
> > offer booting to DOS prompt
> >
> > "Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????
> > ?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...
> >> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to
use
> > it
> >> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a
> > boot
> >> disk.
> >>
> >> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain
the
> >> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a
> >> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy
> >> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit
the
> >> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to
boot.
> >> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating
> >> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive
> >> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.
> >>
> >> [boot loader]
> >> timeout=10
> >> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows
> >> [operating systems]
> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"
> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"
> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"
> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"
> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> >>
> >> (watch for line wrap)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> >> Microsoft Certified Professional
> >> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> >>
> >> "aa" wrote:
> >> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot
to
> >> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K)
and
> >> > ntdetect.com(47K).
> >> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed
> >> > W2K
> >> > Pro
> >> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK
> >> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,
> > ntldr(211K)
> >> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I
> >> > replaced
> >> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.
> >> >
> >> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several
> > modes
> >> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the
> >> > computer.
> >> >
> >> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and
> >> > ntdetect.com(47K)
> >> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same
> > result,
> >> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.
> >> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of
> >> > starting
> >> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among
> > which
> >> > there are english patterns like
> >> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)
> >> > ASPI BIOS
> >> > "readme.txt"
> >> > http://www.hardware-update.com
> >> > <F&>
> >> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the
computer
> > is
> >> > localised for Russia)
> >> >
> >> > I placed the screenshot here:
> >> > www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg
> >> >
> >> > What might be the problem and the remedy?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 00:57:55 PDT 2008

I borrowed another w2k installation disk and it allowed me to get to the DOS
prompt
Using Help I got a list of cpmmands available and cannot figure out which
one is for opening and editing boot.ini

Pegasus
Fri Mar 21 01:49:28 PDT 2008


"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
news:%23VZpwkyiIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I borrowed another w2k installation disk and it allowed me to get to the
>DOS
> prompt
> Using Help I got a list of cpmmands available and cannot figure out which
> one is for opening and editing boot.ini

DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
- Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
- After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
get it right the first time.

aa
Fri Mar 21 02:06:19 PDT 2008

yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it must
be something else.
I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I need
to find the way to pay $4 to www.bootdisk.com to get access to download)
But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted - is
that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead of
loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white screen
on starting w2k (www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

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> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
> get it right the first time.
>
>

Pegasus
Fri Mar 21 02:13:44 PDT 2008

Downloads from www.bootdisk.com are free!

David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -
he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke
different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.
The blue/white screen issue may require different measures
but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.


"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it must
> be something else.
> I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I
> need
> to find the way to pay $4 to www.bootdisk.com to get access to download)
> But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted - is
> that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead of
> loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white screen
> on starting w2k (www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
> news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
>> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
>> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
>> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
>> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
>> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
>> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
>> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
>> get it right the first time.
>>
>>
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 02:38:08 PDT 2008

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> Downloads from www.bootdisk.com are free!
>
> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -
> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke
> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.
> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures
> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.
>
>
> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it
must
> > be something else.
> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I
> > need
> > to find the way to pay $4 to www.bootdisk.com to get access to download)
> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted -
is
> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead of
> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white
screen
> > on starting w2k (www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
> >> get it right the first time.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 02:41:02 PDT 2008

If an OS used to load OK and then stopped and David advised to look into
boot.ini I take it as something wrong happened to boot.ini - that is what I
call corrupted, though it might be called some other name


"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
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> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -
> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke
> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

Pegasus
Fri Mar 21 03:08:08 PDT 2008

This page: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm is headed:
"Free Boot Disks".

"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
news:%23rGdwcziIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm reads:
> As you know it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a website such
> as
> this. I hope that you really appreciate my efforts and I hope that the
> content of my site has been saving you both time and money.
>
> I've worked hard to find, make available, and create some of the best
> fully
> functional computer utilities so you can both find them and download them
> very easily. As my site grows in popularity tho the demand for certain
> files
> is becoming quite overwhelming. So in response I'd like to request that
> you
> if you need these files that you help me out for my time and expenses for
> just $4 to get instant access to EVERY file below.
>
> After completing the transaction you will IMMEDIATELY be directed to a
> download page that includes all the files below. Also, you will be sent an
> email which also provides the link to the download page.
>
>
> Click the button below to Checkout via PayPal to get
>
> Immediate access to ALL the above files
>
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
> news:umghiPziIHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Downloads from www.bootdisk.com are free!
>>
>> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -
>> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke
>> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.
>> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures
>> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.
>>
>>
>> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it
> must
>> > be something else.
>> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I
>> > need
>> > to find the way to pay $4 to www.bootdisk.com to get access to
>> > download)
>> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted -
> is
>> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead
>> > of
>> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white
> screen
>> > on starting w2k (www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?
>> >
>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
> ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
>> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
>> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
>> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
>> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
>> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
>> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
>> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
>> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
>> >> get it right the first time.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 03:27:44 PDT 2008

I've managed to boot into w2k and accessed boot.ini:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional RUS" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect


the first one boots OK, the second will not. What might be wrong with
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect ?

There is the only physical disk and apart from primary partitions for WINNT
and for WINDOWS there is a logical partition as well as a hidden partition
with recovery for XP

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...
> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use
it
> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a
boot
> disk.
>
> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the
> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a
> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy
> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the
> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.
> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating
> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive
> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=10
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>
> (watch for line wrap)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "aa" wrote:
> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to
> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and
> > ntdetect.com(47K).
> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K
> > Pro
> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK
> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,
ntldr(211K)
> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced
> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.
> >
> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several
modes
> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the
> > computer.
> >
> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)
> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same
result,
> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.
> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of
> > starting
> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among
which
> > there are english patterns like
> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)
> > ASPI BIOS
> > "readme.txt"
> > http://www.hardware-update.com
> > <F&>
> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer
is
> > localised for Russia)
> >
> > I placed the screenshot here:
> > www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg
> >
> > What might be the problem and the remedy?
> >
> >
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 03:30:55 PDT 2008

Thanks
There are quite a lot of options there. Which one would you recommend for
w2kPro and for XP Home ?
"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
news:OTyR1tziIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> This page: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm is headed:
> "Free Boot Disks".
>
> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rGdwcziIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm reads:
> > As you know it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a website such
> > as
> > this. I hope that you really appreciate my efforts and I hope that the
> > content of my site has been saving you both time and money.
> >
> > I've worked hard to find, make available, and create some of the best
> > fully
> > functional computer utilities so you can both find them and download
them
> > very easily. As my site grows in popularity tho the demand for certain
> > files
> > is becoming quite overwhelming. So in response I'd like to request that
> > you
> > if you need these files that you help me out for my time and expenses
for
> > just $4 to get instant access to EVERY file below.
> >
> > After completing the transaction you will IMMEDIATELY be directed to a
> > download page that includes all the files below. Also, you will be sent
an
> > email which also provides the link to the download page.
> >
> >
> > Click the button below to Checkout via PayPal to get
> >
> > Immediate access to ALL the above files
> >
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
> > news:umghiPziIHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Downloads from www.bootdisk.com are free!
> >>
> >> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -
> >> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke
> >> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.
> >> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures
> >> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.
> >>
> >>
> >> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it
> > must
> >> > be something else.
> >> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and
I
> >> > need
> >> > to find the way to pay $4 to www.bootdisk.com to get access to
> >> > download)
> >> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is
corrupted -
> > is
> >> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead
> >> > of
> >> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white
> > screen
> >> > on starting w2k (www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?
> >> >
> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
> > ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
> >> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
> >> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
> >> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
> >> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
> >> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
> >> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
> >> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
> >> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
> >> >> get it right the first time.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Dave
Fri Mar 21 03:30:46 PDT 2008

"aa" wrote:
> Thanks, David.
> I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic
> (PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had
> problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k
> installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than itself.
*** Don't run from XP Best to just boot the CD-Rom to start setup.


So
> I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I
> skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive
>
> As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?
*** You'll need to use another computer to create the boot disk.



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Dave
Fri Mar 21 03:34:01 PDT 2008

No, I asked you to simply create another boot disk for testing purpose.



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"aa" wrote:
> If an OS used to load OK and then stopped and David advised to look into
> boot.ini I take it as something wrong happened to boot.ini - that is what
> I
> call corrupted, though it might be called some other name

Dave
Fri Mar 21 03:35:38 PDT 2008

Try creating the boot disk then tell us the result.


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"aa" wrote:
> I've managed to boot into w2k and accessed boot.ini:
> [boot loader]
> timeout=30
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
> Professional RUS" /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
> Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>
>
> the first one boots OK, the second will not. What might be wrong with
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
> Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect ?
>
> There is the only physical disk and apart from primary partitions for
> WINNT
> and for WINDOWS there is a logical partition as well as a hidden
> partition
> with recovery for XP

Pegasus
Fri Mar 21 03:35:35 PDT 2008

To manufacture a Windows 2000 boot disk, follow David's
recipe. There is no need to download anything.

To manufacture a Bart PE boot CD, download the Bart PE
bood CD file. It is free but it requires the following:
- A WinXP Professional installation CD (but no product key)
- A CD burner
- A few hours of your time


"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
news:%23H7LQ6ziIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks
> There are quite a lot of options there. Which one would you recommend for
> w2kPro and for XP Home ?
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
> news:OTyR1tziIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> This page: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm is headed:
>> "Free Boot Disks".
>>
>> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23rGdwcziIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm reads:
>> > As you know it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a website
>> > such
>> > as
>> > this. I hope that you really appreciate my efforts and I hope that the
>> > content of my site has been saving you both time and money.
>> >
>> > I've worked hard to find, make available, and create some of the best
>> > fully
>> > functional computer utilities so you can both find them and download
> them
>> > very easily. As my site grows in popularity tho the demand for certain
>> > files
>> > is becoming quite overwhelming. So in response I'd like to request that
>> > you
>> > if you need these files that you help me out for my time and expenses
> for
>> > just $4 to get instant access to EVERY file below.
>> >
>> > After completing the transaction you will IMMEDIATELY be directed to a
>> > download page that includes all the files below. Also, you will be sent
> an
>> > email which also provides the link to the download page.
>> >
>> >
>> > Click the button below to Checkout via PayPal to get
>> >
>> > Immediate access to ALL the above files
>> >
>> >
>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
> ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
>> > news:umghiPziIHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> Downloads from www.bootdisk.com are free!
>> >>
>> >> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -
>> >> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke
>> >> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.
>> >> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures
>> >> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but
>> >> > it
>> > must
>> >> > be something else.
>> >> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common
>> >> > and
> I
>> >> > need
>> >> > to find the way to pay $4 to www.bootdisk.com to get access to
>> >> > download)
>> >> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is
> corrupted -
>> > is
>> >> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer
>> >> > instead
>> >> > of
>> >> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white
>> > screen
>> >> > on starting w2k (www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
>> > ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
>> >> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.
>> >> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into
>> >> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has
>> >> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:
>> >> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.
>> >> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette
>> >> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from
>> >> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't
>> >> >> get it right the first time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 04:20:26 PDT 2008

are boot disks for XPHome and XPPro different?

Dave
Fri Mar 21 04:24:33 PDT 2008

No, they're the same. Follow the steps I outlined.



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"aa" wrote:
> are boot disks for XPHome and XPPro different?
>
>

aa
Fri Mar 21 04:32:49 PDT 2008

ntldr from XPPro in different in size from that of XPHome - you mean they
are interchangable?
W2K Windows Explorer allows to format a diskette but I cannot find an option
to format bootable diskette - is it there?
If not will you remind please the comand for dos prompt to format bootable
diskette?

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: news:EE532D40-3972-409D-997F-7EFC70693D25@microsoft.com...
> No, they're the same. Follow the steps I outlined.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "aa" wrote:
> > are boot disks for XPHome and XPPro different?
> >
> >

Dave
Fri Mar 21 04:41:40 PDT 2008

"aa" wrote:
> ntldr from XPPro in different in size from that of XPHome - you mean they
> are interchangable?
*** Shouldn't matter but use the one from XP Professional

> W2K Windows Explorer allows to format a diskette but I cannot find an
> option
> to format bootable diskette - is it there?
*** No, there's no need to do anything special.


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aa
Fri Mar 21 13:27:06 PDT 2008

thank you

Dave
Fri Mar 21 14:56:17 PDT 2008

You're welcome.

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"aa" wrote:
> thank you
>
>