Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel Wireless WiFi
4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within 3 feet
of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and set the
router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replaced and I
have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0 Mbps
speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the 802.11n
signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142) USB adapter
two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of the home)
which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.


BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this model of
mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connected to
"port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected (port2.) I
fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references that this
card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one in this
HP.

Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by Pavel

Pavel
Tue May 20 13:28:22 PDT 2008

?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
For N mode you need to connect all 3.

--PA


"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel Wireless
> WiFi
> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within 3
> feet
> of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and set
> the
> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replaced and
> I
> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
> Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0 Mbps
> speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the 802.11n
> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142) USB
> adapter
> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of the
> home)
> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>
>
> BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this model of
> mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connected to
> "port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected (port2.)
> I
> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references that
> this
> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one in
> this
> HP.


Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by smlunatick

smlunatick
Tue May 20 13:53:30 PDT 2008

The small internal mini-PCI adapter has three snap on connector but only has 2
wires connected. I did not see any "third" wire for the middle connection.



On 20/05/2008 "Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
>?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
>For N mode you need to connect all 3.
>
>--PA
>
>
>"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel Wireless
>> WiFi
>> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within 3
>> feet
>> of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and set
>> the
>> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replaced and
>> I
>> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
>> Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0 Mbps
>> speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the 802.11n
>> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142) USB
>> adapter
>> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of the
>> home)
>> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>>
>>
>> BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this model of
>> mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connected to
>> "port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected (port2.)
>> I
>> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references that
>> this
>> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one in
>> this
>> HP.
>

Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by Pavel

Pavel
Tue May 20 15:00:40 PDT 2008

"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:#EpcQuruIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> The small internal mini-PCI adapter has three snap on connector but only
> has 2
> wires connected. I did not see any "third" wire for the middle
> connection.

Too bad. Ask HP how to connect the 3rd antenna.
Temporarily you can try and connect any suitable external antenna.

--PA


> On 20/05/2008 "Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
>>?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
>>For N mode you need to connect all 3.
>>
>>--PA
>>
>>
>>"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel Wireless
>>> WiFi
>>> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within 3
>>> feet
>>> of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and set
>>> the
>>> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replaced
>>> and
>>> I
>>> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
>>> Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0 Mbps
>>> speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the 802.11n
>>> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142) USB
>>> adapter
>>> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of the
>>> home)
>>> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this model of
>>> mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connected to
>>> "port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected
>>> (port2.)
>>> I
>>> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references
>>> that
>>> this
>>> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one in
>>> this
>>> HP.
>>

Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by smlunatick

smlunatick
Tue May 20 18:52:42 PDT 2008

On May 20, 6:00=A0pm, "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:#EpcQuruIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> > The small internal mini-PCI adapter has three snap on connector but only=

> > has 2
> > wires connected. =A0I did not see any "third" wire for the middle
> > connection.
>
> Too bad. Ask HP how to connect the 3rd antenna.
> Temporarily you can try and connect any suitable external antenna.
>
> --PA
>
>
>
> > On 20/05/2008 "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
> >>?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
> >>For N mode you need to connect all 3.
>
> >>--PA
>
> >>"smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel Wirele=
ss
> >>> WiFi
> >>> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within =
3
> >>> feet
> >>> of the 11n router? =A0I have followed the recommendations of Intel and=
set
> >>> the
> >>> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. =A0The card was warranted replac=
ed
> >>> and
> >>> I
> >>> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
> >>> Configuration. =A0Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0 M=
bps
> >>> speeds. =A0The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the 802=
.11n
> >>> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142) USB=

> >>> adapter
> >>> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of t=
he
> >>> home)
> >>> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>
> >>> BTW: =A0Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this mode=
l of
> >>> mini-PCI wireless card is important? =A0This one only has two connecte=
d to
> >>> "port" 1 and 3. =A0One is completely "non-existant" / not connected
> >>> (port2.)
> >>> I
> >>> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references
> >>> that
> >>> this
> >>> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one =
in
> >>> this
> >>> HP.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Can you guide me to a suitable antenna or are you confusing an
internal mini-PCI laptop wireless adapter with a standard PCI /
cardbus card.

Mini-PCI adapter is completely internal to the laptop with the wires
goin to a connector that looks like a pants snap fastoner.

Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by Paul

Paul
Tue May 20 23:08:21 PDT 2008

smlunatick wrote:
> On May 20, 6:00 pm, "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
>> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:#EpcQuruIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> The small internal mini-PCI adapter has three snap on connector but only
>>> has 2
>>> wires connected. I did not see any "third" wire for the middle
>>> connection.
>> Too bad. Ask HP how to connect the 3rd antenna.
>> Temporarily you can try and connect any suitable external antenna.
>>
>> --PA
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 20/05/2008 "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
>>>> ?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
>>>> For N mode you need to connect all 3.
>>>> --PA
>>>> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel Wireless
>>>>> WiFi
>>>>> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within 3
>>>>> feet
>>>>> of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and set
>>>>> the
>>>>> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replaced
>>>>> and
>>>>> I
>>>>> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
>>>>> Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0 Mbps
>>>>> speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the 802.11n
>>>>> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142) USB
>>>>> adapter
>>>>> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of the
>>>>> home)
>>>>> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>>>>> BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this model of
>>>>> mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connected to
>>>>> "port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected
>>>>> (port2.)
>>>>> I
>>>>> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references
>>>>> that
>>>>> this
>>>>> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one in
>>>>> this
>>>>> HP.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Can you guide me to a suitable antenna or are you confusing an
> internal mini-PCI laptop wireless adapter with a standard PCI /
> cardbus card.
>
> Mini-PCI adapter is completely internal to the laptop with the wires
> goin to a connector that looks like a pants snap fastoner.

When I checked the product page on the Intel site, it said the mini-pci
design in question, is compatible with two or three antenna systems.
It could be, that whatever software/firmware controls the device,
can be configured to not use the third antenna.

http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/wireless/wireless_n/techdocs.htm

From product brief -

"On-board diversity support for systems designed with two or three antennas"

For Wireless_N, there are various options for how the antennas can be
handled. For example, according to the naming conventions here, your card
might have options for 2x3:2 or 2x2:2. Meaning the third antenna connector
might be receive only, for example. (If it was my card, I might try
tracing down the chip numbers on the card, and see if there are specs
that identify how many radios the thing has and so on.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_N
http://www.wirevolution.com/2007/09/07/how-does-80211n-get-to-600mbps/

The fact that you're running at 54, suggests it isn't even in "N" mode
right now. The user guide from the Intel site, lists this.

"Supported Data Rates

* 802.11g: 1, 2, 5.5, 6, 9, 11, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, and 54
* 802.11b: 1, 2, 5.5, and 11
* 802.11a: 6, 9, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, and 54
* 802.11n: 300, 270, 243, 240, 180, 150, 144, 135, 130, 120, 117, 115.5,
90, 86.667, 72.2, 65, 60, 57.8, 45, 43.3, 30, 28.9, 21.7, 15, 14.4, 7.2"

HTH,
Paul

Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by Pavel

Pavel
Fri May 23 17:18:08 PDT 2008

"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d933f29-0152-4b3b-b132-ed924a687a99@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 20, 6:00 pm, "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
>> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:#EpcQuruIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> > The small internal mini-PCI adapter has three snap on connector but
>> > only
>> > has 2
>> > wires connected. I did not see any "third" wire for the middle
>> > connection.
>>
>> Too bad. Ask HP how to connect the 3rd antenna.
>> Temporarily you can try and connect any suitable external antenna.
>>
>> --PA
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 20/05/2008 "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
>> >>?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
>> >>For N mode you need to connect all 3.
>>
>> >>--PA
>>
>> >>"smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel
>> >>> Wireless
>> >>> WiFi
>> >>> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when within
>> >>> 3
>> >>> feet
>> >>> of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and
>> >>> set
>> >>> the
>> >>> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replaced
>> >>> and
>> >>> I
>> >>> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero
>> >>> Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0
>> >>> Mbps
>> >>> speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the
>> >>> 802.11n
>> >>> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142)
>> >>> USB
>> >>> adapter
>> >>> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story of
>> >>> the
>> >>> home)
>> >>> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>>
>> >>> BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this model
>> >>> of
>> >>> mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connected
>> >>> to
>> >>> "port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected
>> >>> (port2.)
>> >>> I
>> >>> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several references
>> >>> that
>> >>> this
>> >>> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only one
>> >>> in
>> >>> this
>> >>> HP.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Can you guide me to a suitable antenna or are you confusing an
> internal mini-PCI laptop wireless adapter with a standard PCI /
> cardbus card.
>
> Mini-PCI adapter is completely internal to the laptop with the wires
> goin to a connector that looks like a pants snap fastoner.

Yes, I'm talking about the 4965 AGN mini-PCI express card with 3 tiny snap
connectors.
All 3 connectors should be connected to antennas for best results in N mode.
Sorry I don't know where to buy the antennas, I've used whatever we have in
our lab.
AFAIK almost any antenna will work, it 's much better than leave it
unconnected.

--PA



Re: OT: Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN stuck at 54.0 Mbps by smlunatick

smlunatick
Mon May 26 07:33:32 PDT 2008

On May 23, 8:18=A0pm, "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0d933f29-0152-4b3b-b132-ed924a687a99@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 20, 6:00 pm, "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
> >> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:#EpcQuruIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> >> > The small internal mini-PCI adapter has three snap on connector but
> >> > only
> >> > has 2
> >> > wires connected. I did not see any "third" wire for the middle
> >> > connection.
>
> >> Too bad. Ask HP how to connect the 3rd antenna.
> >> Temporarily you can try and connect any suitable external antenna.
>
> >> --PA
>
> >> > On 20/05/2008 "Pavel A." <pave...@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote:
> >> >>?? What do you call ports or wires - the antenna connection points?
> >> >>For N mode you need to connect all 3.
>
> >> >>--PA
>
> >> >>"smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:OouKW1ouIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> Does anyone know why a HP Compaq 6820s laptop that has an Intel
> >> >>> Wireless
> >> >>> WiFi
> >> >>> 4965AGN mini-PCI adapter be constantly stuck at 54.0 Mbps when with=
in
> >> >>> 3
> >> >>> feet
> >> >>> of the 11n router? I have followed the recommendations of Intel and=

> >> >>> set
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> router to WPA(2) with AES encryption. The card was warranted replac=
ed
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> have tried both the Intel Pro management software and Wireless Zero=

> >> >>> Configuration. Neither will get the Intel card to exceed the 54.0
> >> >>> Mbps
> >> >>> speeds. The router is a TRENDnet TEW-631BRP and I know that the
> >> >>> 802.11n
> >> >>> signals are working since there is a D-Link RangeBoost N (DWA-142)
> >> >>> USB
> >> >>> adapter
> >> >>> two floors up (router in the basement, D-Link on the second story o=
f
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> home)
> >> >>> which is connecting at greater than 200Mbps.
>
> >> >>> BTW: Does anyone know if the number of wires connected to this mode=
l
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> mini-PCI wireless card is important? This one only has two connecte=
d
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> "port" 1 and 3. One is completely "non-existant" / not connected
> >> >>> (port2.)
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> fear that HP has lamed this adapter since I found several reference=
s
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> this
> >> >>> card needs all antennas connected but it seems that there is only o=
ne
> >> >>> in
> >> >>> this
> >> >>> HP.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Can you guide me to a suitable antenna or are you confusing an
> > internal mini-PCI laptop wireless adapter with a standard PCI /
> > cardbus card.
>
> > Mini-PCI adapter is completely internal to the laptop with the wires
> > goin to a connector that looks like a pants snap fastoner.
>
> Yes, I'm talking about the 4965 AGN mini-PCI express card with 3 tiny snap=

> connectors.
> All 3 connectors should be connected to antennas for best results in N mod=
e.
> Sorry I don't know where to buy the antennas, I've used whatever we have i=
n
> our lab.
> AFAIK almost any antenna will work, it 's much better than leave it
> unconnected.
>
> --PA- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Then can anyone confirm that the HP Compaq 6820s comes with three
antenna wires? The unit I dealing witth only have two wires with the
middle connection "empty." Does this mean the laptop has a
manufacturing defect??