I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
- click add printer
- tick local printer
- install XP drivers etc.

The problem is that the 'local printer' option is greyed
out. If I take the network printer option then the printer
on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the option
of loading XP drivers.

Any thoughts?

Davy

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Brian

Brian
Sat May 03 02:25:13 PDT 2008

"Davy" <me@removeallthistextchobham.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns9A9363B353ED0meremoveallthistextc@216.196.109.145...
>I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
> - click add printer
> - tick local printer
> - install XP drivers etc.
>
> The problem is that the 'local printer' option is greyed
> out. If I take the network printer option then the printer
> on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the option
> of loading XP drivers.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Davy

Did you complete the Add Printer wizard and test to see if the printer is
detected/listed in any app as one to select to print? If the printer is
detected by the wizard, you may not need to select the option to install the
drivers as they will be installed during the add printer wizard.
Have you tried installing the drivers using the disk supplied with the printer
on the remote machine?

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Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Davy

Davy
Sat May 03 03:30:34 PDT 2008

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in
news:OzihY#PrIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> "Davy" <me@removeallthistextchobham.org.uk> wrote in
message
> news:Xns9A9363B353ED0meremoveallthistextc@
216.196.109.145...
>>I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
>> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
>> - click add printer
>> - tick local printer
>> - install XP drivers etc.
>>
>> The problem is that the 'local printer' option is
greyed
>> out. If I take the network printer option then the
printer
>> on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the
option
>> of loading XP drivers.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Davy
>
> Did you complete the Add Printer wizard and test to
see if the
> printer is
> detected/listed in any app as one to select to print?
If the printer
> is detected by the wizard, you may not need to select
the option to
> install the drivers as they will be installed during
the add printer
> wizard.
> Have you tried installing the drivers using the disk
supplied with
> the printer
> on the remote machine?
>

Brian,
the only way I can complete the add printer wizard is if
I select 'network printer'. As I understand it the
wizard will then install a 'shortcut' to the printer but
not the XP drivers. Each time I print from the XP
machine using the remote printer on the W2k machine then
the XP machine downloads the drivers from the W2k
machine - but the only drivers the W2k machine offers is
W2k drivers.

That, I believe, is why MS recommend selecting 'local
printer' in the add printer wizard on the XP machine and
then installing XP drivers. But of course I cannot do
this since 'local printer' is greyed out.

cheers

Davy

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Big

Big
Sat May 03 04:26:56 PDT 2008

Davy wrote:
> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
> - click add printer
> - tick local printer
> - install XP drivers etc.
>
> The problem is that the 'local printer' option is greyed
> out. If I take the network printer option then the printer
> on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the option
> of loading XP drivers.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Davy
If the printer is local to your machine like a USB or parallel cable,
then you normally turn the printer off, load the cd software and /or
drivers, then click the add printer 'local'. At some point it may ask
you to turn on the printer and it will finish.
If the printer is not on your pc but another's, then click add printer
and 'remote'. Find the printer even if you have to browse the network.
Once you find the printer double click and it will add it to your
system. You'll end up with a printer, I won't call it a link, but it's
just another printer on your pc to print to.

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Davy

Davy
Sat May 03 07:50:36 PDT 2008

Big Al <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in news:4_XSj.140
$aA1.58@trnddc05:

> Davy wrote:
>> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
>> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
>> - click add printer
>> - tick local printer
>> - install XP drivers etc.
>>
>> The problem is that the 'local printer' option is
greyed
>> out. If I take the network printer option then the
printer
>> on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the
option
>> of loading XP drivers.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Davy
> If the printer is local to your machine like a USB or
parallel cable,
> then you normally turn the printer off, load the cd
software and /or
> drivers, then click the add printer 'local'. At some
point it may ask
> you to turn on the printer and it will finish.
> If the printer is not on your pc but another's, then
click add printer
> and 'remote'. Find the printer even if you have to
browse the network.
> Once you find the printer double click and it will
add it to your
> system. You'll end up with a printer, I won't call it
a link, but it's
> just another printer on your pc to print to.

Big Al,
see my post immediately before yours,
thanks
Davy

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Big

Big
Sat May 03 08:14:32 PDT 2008

Davy wrote:
> Big Al <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in news:4_XSj.140
> $aA1.58@trnddc05:
>
>> Davy wrote:
>>> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
>>> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
>>> - click add printer
>>> - tick local printer
>>> - install XP drivers etc.
>>>
>>> The problem is that the 'local printer' option is
> greyed
>>> out. If I take the network printer option then the
> printer
>>> on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the
> option
>>> of loading XP drivers.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Davy
>> If the printer is local to your machine like a USB or
> parallel cable,
>> then you normally turn the printer off, load the cd
> software and /or
>> drivers, then click the add printer 'local'. At some
> point it may ask
>> you to turn on the printer and it will finish.
>> If the printer is not on your pc but another's, then
> click add printer
>> and 'remote'. Find the printer even if you have to
> browse the network.
>> Once you find the printer double click and it will
> add it to your
>> system. You'll end up with a printer, I won't call it
> a link, but it's
>> just another printer on your pc to print to.
>
> Big Al,
> see my post immediately before yours,
> thanks
> Davy
Yes. And I'm trying to clarify that I don't care how microsoft says it,
if the printer is not local and plugged into your hardware then local is
not right.
>>> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
>>> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
>>> - click add printer
>>> - tick local printer
You can't add a remote printer by looking at local. Local are the
LPT1: LPT2: and Serial and USB printers on you pc.
Its a fact.

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Davy

Davy
Sat May 03 10:05:47 PDT 2008

Big Al <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in news:sj%Sj.1301
$sp.89@trnddc02:

> Yes. And I'm trying to clarify that I don't care how
microsoft says it,
> if the printer is not local and plugged into your
hardware then local is
> not right.
> >>> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions
for
> >>> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
> >>> - click add printer
> >>> - tick local printer
> You can't add a remote printer by looking at local.
Local are the
> LPT1: LPT2: and Serial and USB printers on you pc.
> Its a fact.
>

I just love it when someone says 'its a fact' - my
mother always said that when as a boy I got argumentive.

Microsoft recommend:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282842

How to install a printer driver locally for a remote
printer in Windows XP
..........
.................
SUMMARY
This step-by-step article describes how to install a
driver for a remote printer on a local computer.

To update the printer driver locally for a remote
printer on a print server that is running Microsoft
Windows NT 4.0, Microsoft Windows 2000, or Microsoft
Windows XP, you must log on as an administrator. The
driver is automatically updated on the client computer
to reduce total cost of ownership when the printer
driver on the server is updated.


To install a printer driver locally on a Windows XP-
based computer, follow these steps:
1. Click Start, click Control Panel, click Printers and
Other Hardware, and then click Printers and Faxes.
2. Double-click Add Printer to start the Add Printer
Wizard, and then click Next.
3. Click Local printer, clear the Automatically detect
and install check box, and then click Next.
4. Click Create a new port, and then click Local Port in
the Port type section.
5. In the Port Name box, type the path to the printer in
the following format, where server is the name of the
print server and printer is the name of the printer:
\\server\printer
6. Click Next, and then select a Windows 2000 or Windows
XP driver for your printer.
7. Click Next, and then follow the instructions to
finish the wizard.

Its step 3 that is the problem; local is greyed-out.

Davy

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Big

Big
Sat May 03 12:58:31 PDT 2008

Davy wrote:
> Big Al <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in news:sj%Sj.1301
> $sp.89@trnddc02:
>
>> Yes. And I'm trying to clarify that I don't care how
> microsoft says it,
>> if the printer is not local and plugged into your
> hardware then local is
>> not right.
>>>>> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions
> for
>>>>> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
>>>>> - click add printer
>>>>> - tick local printer
>> You can't add a remote printer by looking at local.
> Local are the
>> LPT1: LPT2: and Serial and USB printers on you pc.
>> Its a fact.
>>
>
> I just love it when someone says 'its a fact' - my
> mother always said that when as a boy I got argumentive.
>
> Microsoft recommend:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282842
>
> How to install a printer driver locally for a remote
> printer in Windows XP
> ..........
> .................
> SUMMARY
> This step-by-step article describes how to install a
> driver for a remote printer on a local computer.
>
> To update the printer driver locally
Meaning installing the drivers on your local machine!
> for a remote
> printer on a print server
Meaning a printer that is not on your machine, thus its remote to your
machine, thus its a remote printer.

> that is running Microsoft
> Windows NT 4.0, Microsoft Windows 2000, or Microsoft
> Windows XP, you must log on as an administrator.
> The
> driver is automatically updated on the client computer
Meaning it will update your machine. You are the client, the server is
the server part of client/server pair.

> to reduce total cost of ownership when the printer
> driver on the server is updated.
>
>
> To install a printer driver locally on a Windows XP-
> based computer, follow these steps:
> 1. Click Start, click Control Panel, click Printers and
> Other Hardware, and then click Printers and Faxes.
> 2. Double-click Add Printer to start the Add Printer
> Wizard, and then click Next.
> 3. Click Local printer, clear the Automatically detect
> and install check box, and then click Next.
Yes this baffles me from #3 down. Maybe it works this way but I'd
just find the remote printer and click on it. Windows then asks if you
want to install the printer. Maybe its two ways to skin a cat. Maybe
as stated above 'to reduce the cost of ownership when the driver is
updated'. But I do it my way and it works everytime.
> 4. Click Create a new port, and then click Local Port in
> the Port type section.
> 5. In the Port Name box, type the path to the printer in
> the following format, where server is the name of the
> print server and printer is the name of the printer:
> \\server\printer
> 6. Click Next, and then select a Windows 2000 or Windows
> XP driver for your printer.
> 7. Click Next, and then follow the instructions to
> finish the wizard.
>
> Its step 3 that is the problem; local is greyed-out.
>
> Davy
Its quite possible that its the difference of installing an XP driver on
your machine or their way installs a win2000 driver. That part I'm
ignorant of.

Do what you want. You have my permission to ignore anything anyone says
on these newsgroups or test it. Its up to you. Life's a gamble.

Re: How to Install Remote Printer? by Davy

Davy
Sat May 03 13:10:59 PDT 2008

Davy <me@removeallthistextchobham.org.uk> wrote in
news:Xns9A9363B353ED0meremoveallthistextc@
216.196.109.145:

> I am trying to follow the microsoft instructions for
> adding a remote printer to an XP machine:
> - click add printer
> - tick local printer
> - install XP drivers etc.
>
> The problem is that the 'local printer' option is
greyed
> out. If I take the network printer option then the
printer
> on the Win2000 pc is found but I am not given the
option
> of loading XP drivers.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Davy
>

Right, I've sorted this.

'local printer' is grey-out because in XP one needs
adminstrator priveleges to install a local printer.

Bruce Sanderson gives an excellent guide on how to
install a printer on a local machine served by a print
server running an older version of windows;
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/AddDrivertoOldOS.htm

Installing Additional Drivers on an older version of
Windows

When you create a network printer, and the printer is
shared from a Windows operating system in the NT family
(e.g. Windows NT 4, 2000, XP), the printer driver can be
automatically installed on the client from the print
server. This is part of the feature called Point and
Print. In many cases, the operating system version of
the client computer is not the same as that of the print
server hosting the printer. In these cases, the printer
driver for the client operating system must be added to
the print server as a Additional Driver.

The dialog for adding Additional Drivers this has a
fixed idea about what other operating systems exist.
So, if your client is Windows XP and the print server is
NT 4.0, you can't add an Additional Drivers for a
printer for your client using the dialog on the Windows
NT 4.0 print server. However, you can install
Additional Drivers for Windows XP clients on the Windows
NT 4.0 or Windows 2000 print server from a Windows XP
computer.

The same applies to installing Additional Drivers for
Windows 2000 clients on a Windows NT 4.0 print server.

Note that it doesn't matter what edition of the various
operating systems are on either the client or server
(e.g. the client could be Windows 2000 Server and the
server could be Windows NT 4.0 Workstation).

Basically, what you do is, on a client workstation that
has the "new" OS, temporarily add a local printer on a
convenient port (e.g. lpt1) and install the Windows 2000
or XP printer driver. Then you connect to the Printers
and Faxes (or Printers) folder on the print server from
that same client and install the just installed driver
as an Additional Driver.

Here's the details. These instructions are for adding a
Windows XP printer driver to Windows NT 4 print server.
If the client is Windows 2000 or the print server is
Windows 2000, the actual dialogs may be slightly
different, but the process is essentially the same.

Logon at a client computer with a user account that has
administrative rights and permissions on the print
server computer.
Click Start, Printers and Faxes
Right click in an empty space in the right pane and
select Add Printer
Click Next
Select the Local Printer? radio button, remove the check
mark from Automatically detect and install my Plug and
Play printer; click Next
Leave the LPT1: port selected; click Next. You will be
adding the printer as if the print device is on the
local computer?s parallel port, then deleting the
printer later. This is just a way to get the XP driver
installed, which is a pre-requisite to adding it as an
Additional Driver on the server.
If you are going to use the printer driver delivered
with Windows XP, select the appropriate make and model.
If you have downloaded a printer driver from a web site
or have the driver on a floppy or CD, click Have Disk,
Browse and navigate to wherever the driver is.
Depending on how the driver is packaged, you may get a
list of several printer models; in that case, select the
appropriate printer model.
Follow through to the end of the Add Printer wizard
(don't share the printer and don't ask for a test print)
Delete the local printer you just added; the printer
driver is now installed and will NOT be deleted when you
delete the local printer
Click Start, Run
Key \\printservername and press Enter
Scroll down in the left pane and click Printers and
Faxes in the Windows Explorer window that opens
Right click on the printer you want to add the
Additional Drivers for and select Properties
If you get told that a suitable driver has not been
installed on your computer for this printer, click Yes
and navigate to the same folder you used in step 7. If
there are multiple printer models in the list, select
the same you used in step 7
Select the Sharing tab
Select the Shared radio button
Click the Additional Drivers button
Add a check mark to the Windows 2000 or XP item in the
list; click OK
If you get a dialog box asking you to insert disks,
click the Browse button and navigate to the same folder
you specified in step 7; click OK
If you get a message box saying that ?? the operation
could not be completed??. Click OK to clear the message
box. Go back to step . For some unknown reason, this
process sometimes fails the first time, but succeeds on
the second attempt.
Click Close

thanks for all your help to a novice

David