OT: Here's how to handle a hard disk !!!!

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570

...clik the video link.

...I cringed whilst watching it !!!

regards, Richard

Doug
Thu Jun 05 15:26:26 PDT 2008


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>
> ...clik the video link.
>
> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>
> regards, Richard
>
>

Why????
>

Rachel
Thu Jun 05 16:54:50 PDT 2008

I don't get it.

"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>
> ...clik the video link.
>
> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
>

Big_Al
Thu Jun 05 17:00:32 PDT 2008

Rachel wrote:
> I don't get it.
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qXwmd1xIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>
>> ...clik the video link.
>>
>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>>
>
>
And I thought I was going crazy. I don't either.

But I thought she was cute. :-)

VanguardLH
Thu Jun 05 17:51:41 PDT 2008

"RJK" wrote in <news:#qXwmd1xIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>:

> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>
> ...clik the video link.
>
> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>
> regards, Richard

NOTE: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general was removed in my reply since
this was obviously a hardware-only topic. No OS was ever mentioned in
the video.

That she took no anti-static safeguards?
Showed us that she checked that the power was off before connecting?
What?

You really think what she did was any different than the average joe
schmuck who thinks slapping a bunch of components together equates to a
reliable host?

Bruce
Thu Jun 05 18:15:14 PDT 2008

RJK wrote:
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>
> ...clik the video link.
>
> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>


So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
"well-engineered" and "reliable."


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philo
Thu Jun 05 18:49:10 PDT 2008


"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> RJK wrote:
> > http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
> >
> > ...clik the video link.
> >
> > ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
> >
>
>
> So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
> "well-engineered" and "reliable."
>
>


The only thing I thought was funny...
the mention that the drive was a "really fast" 7200 rpm.


That's 100% standard

VanguardLH
Thu Jun 05 20:35:47 PDT 2008

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in <news:OX0UFL3xIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>:

> RJK wrote:
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>
>> ...clik the video link.
>>
>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>
>
> So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
> "well-engineered" and "reliable."

So how do you feel about Seagate hard disks?

Bob
Fri Jun 06 06:19:53 PDT 2008



philo wrote:

> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:OX0UFL3xIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>RJK wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>>
>>>...clik the video link.
>>>
>>>...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>>
>>
>>
>>So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
>>"well-engineered" and "reliable."
>>
>>
>
>
>
> The only thing I thought was funny...
> the mention that the drive was a "really fast" 7200 rpm.
>
>
> That's 100% standard
>
>

Suppose she worked at BB?

Ian
Fri Jun 06 07:09:32 PDT 2008


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>
> ...clik the video link.
>
> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
>
What struck me funny about that video was that monstrous fan
blowing against a wall with a few holes in it. Had the drive cage
been rotated 90*, it would have great airflow across the drives,
into the case.

HeyBub
Fri Jun 06 07:50:32 PDT 2008

Big_Al wrote:
> And I thought I was going crazy. I don't either.
>
> But I thought she was cute. :-)

No tits.

Bob
Fri Jun 06 08:30:50 PDT 2008



HeyBub wrote:
> Big_Al wrote:
>
>>And I thought I was going crazy. I don't either.
>>
>>But I thought she was cute. :-)
>
>
> No tits.
>
>

Baby seals are cute, so I don't believe those are necessary to qualify
as "cute". ;-)

Bruce
Fri Jun 06 10:10:47 PDT 2008

VanguardLH wrote:
> "Bruce Chambers" wrote in <news:OX0UFL3xIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>:
>
>> RJK wrote:
>>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>>
>>> ...clik the video link.
>>>
>>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>>
>> So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
>> "well-engineered" and "reliable."
>
> So how do you feel about Seagate hard disks?


Depends on the specific type (SCSI, etc) and era. They've had good
years and bad years. Same as with most manufacturers, really; it's just
that Maxtor's seemed to me to have many more bad years than good. (And
don't get me started ion that execrable MaxBlast!)


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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

RJK
Fri Jun 06 12:02:17 PDT 2008

You got it ! ...I was guessing / hoping that they had her ankles earthed,
and it was how she handled the thing I didn't approve of i.e. dabbing her
fingers all over the "underside" of the IDE board. I'd never dream of
touching one for fear of zapping it - even with my wrist straps on !

regards, Richard


"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
news:AYWdnag_r8KAF9XVnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "RJK" wrote in <news:#qXwmd1xIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>:
>
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>
>> ...clik the video link.
>>
>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>
>> regards, Richard
>
> NOTE: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general was removed in my reply since
> this was obviously a hardware-only topic. No OS was ever mentioned in
> the video.
>
> That she took no anti-static safeguards?
> Showed us that she checked that the power was off before connecting?
> What?
>
> You really think what she did was any different than the average joe
> schmuck who thinks slapping a bunch of components together equates to a
> reliable host?

RJK
Fri Jun 06 12:14:33 PDT 2008

ummmm, there are so many type of Maxtor drives, I've come across several 1/4
height? / very slim 3 1/2" - noisy | whining | short lived ones.
...didn't Hitachi take over a hd manufacturer recently i.e. aren't most
Seagate and Maxtor drive mostly the same nowadays ?
...atm I have a MAXTOR STM380811AS (boot drive) and a MAXTOR STM3160811AS
(storage)... both extremely quiet and reliable !

...also there's a MAXTOR STM380811AS in Dad's PC in the house, and three
times across the past couple of years it's Ghost iamge backup pumped back in
i.e. it wouldn't boot up at all. That last time it had a thorough "Spinrite
6'ing" and that didn't highlight any problems - ...I was left suspecting
that the "fast-boot" or "Super-boot" option in the bios on his board was
causing the problem. i.i there was mentio in the manual that parts of the
Windows OS were "saved" ..or something like that ,. ...never did fing time
to pin it down !

I've always like Seagate hd's, ...strange how lots of the Maxtors have
Seagate part Nos' :-)

regards, Richard


"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> RJK wrote:
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>
>> ...clik the video link.
>>
>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>
>
>
> So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
> "well-engineered" and "reliable."
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

RJK
Fri Jun 06 12:18:05 PDT 2008

...it's only the "slim" Maxtors, a few years ago I found to be not too
reliable, and they didn't last very long, and they made a very loud whine as
well.
My MAXTOR STM380811AS (boot drive) and a MAXTOR STM3160811AS (storage) hd's
are going strong, and are REALLY quiet !

regards, Richard


"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> philo wrote:
>
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:OX0UFL3xIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>RJK wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>>>
>>>>...clik the video link.
>>>>
>>>>...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
>>>"well-engineered" and "reliable."
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The only thing I thought was funny...
>> the mention that the drive was a "really fast" 7200 rpm.
>>
>>
>> That's 100% standard
>>
>>
>
> Suppose she worked at BB?
>

RJK
Fri Jun 06 12:30:35 PDT 2008

Lack of anti-static precautions ! ...unless her ankles were earthed. i.e.
she didn't even lick her fingers and touch a "large metal object" e.g. the
case chassis ? ...her "thoughtless" handling of the hd - repeatedly
touching the IDE board - I didn't like !
...not initially correctly "offering up" the SATA plug i.e. LOOKING to
check the "L" shaped orientations in the SATA plug and socket !!! ...
someone should have told her they existed !
...bless her, she did a lovely job BUT, was not properly trained to convey
just a little system building caution and expertise !

regards, Richard


"Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote in message
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>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qXwmd1xIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>
>> ...clik the video link.
>>
>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>
> Why????
>>
>

RJK
Fri Jun 06 12:31:12 PDT 2008

...that's because you perhaps are not a system builder ?

regards, Richard


"Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I don't get it.
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qXwmd1xIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>
>> ...clik the video link.
>>
>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Michael
Fri Jun 06 12:35:30 PDT 2008

RJK wrote:
> ummmm, there are so many type of Maxtor drives, I've come across several 1/4
> height? / very slim 3 1/2" - noisy | whining | short lived ones.
> ...didn't Hitachi take over a hd manufacturer recently i.e. aren't most
> Seagate and Maxtor drive mostly the same nowadays ?

IIRC Hitachi bought IBM's desktop drive business and Seagate bought
Maxtor. I don't think Western Digital or Samsung are part of any of the
other companies.


> ...atm I have a MAXTOR STM380811AS (boot drive) and a MAXTOR STM3160811AS
> (storage)... both extremely quiet and reliable !
>
> ...also there's a MAXTOR STM380811AS in Dad's PC in the house, and three
> times across the past couple of years it's Ghost iamge backup pumped back in
> i.e. it wouldn't boot up at all. That last time it had a thorough "Spinrite
> 6'ing" and that didn't highlight any problems - ...I was left suspecting
> that the "fast-boot" or "Super-boot" option in the bios on his board was
> causing the problem. i.i there was mentio in the manual that parts of the
> Windows OS were "saved" ..or something like that ,. ...never did fing time
> to pin it down !
>
> I've always like Seagate hd's, ...strange how lots of the Maxtors have
> Seagate part Nos' :-)
>
See my comment above.

> regards, Richard
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:OX0UFL3xIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> RJK wrote:
>>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>>>
>>> ...clik the video link.
>>>
>>> ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>>>
>>
>> So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
>> "well-engineered" and "reliable."
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>> Russell
>>
>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>> killed a great many philosophers.
>> ~ Denis Diderot
>
>

M
Wed Jun 11 01:27:43 PDT 2008


"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:OX0UFL3xIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> RJK wrote:
>> > http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129570
>> >
>> > ...clik the video link.
>> >
>> > ...I cringed whilst watching it !!!
>> >
>>
>>
>> So did I, when she actually said that a Maxtor hard drive was
>> "well-engineered" and "reliable."
>>
>>
>
>
> The only thing I thought was funny...
> the mention that the drive was a "really fast" 7200 rpm.
>
>
> That's 100% standard
>

Not that necessarily. The last 7200 rpm drive I bought had "33% faster than
a 5400 rpm drive" emblazoned across the box.