eli
Tue Apr 29 21:37:11 PDT 2008
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Thanks again Paul and Ian:
I kept the cover open for about an hour and the temp dropped to =
39C---From 51C
Inside, the main fan is working just fine. But there's a smaller fan on =
the side which is silent and I feel no air flow near it. It's much =
closer to the HD than the one which is whirrring and is encased in the =
rear part of a long gray rectangular solid to the right side of the =
HD..Not sure i can locate it precisely in that photo u sent. Maybe it =
shut off when the temp fell some..Dont know..When I first felt what I =
believe to be the HD , it wasnt lukewarm, but bordering on hot. Though I =
cant say just how hot it was.
Might it be advisable to keep the cover slightly open until this is =
looked into by a technicain? Or is there more risk of too much dust =
getting in?
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Ian wrote:
<<<
As a matter of interest, what are your CPU and chipset (motherboard)
temperatures? Also, what happens to the HD temp if you run it with
the case open?=20
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Speedfan didnt give me temp preadings for the CPU and chipset, only the =
HD. As I wrote above, leaving the cover open alows the temperature of HD =
to drop to 39C. Wondering if I should leave that cover open in the =
meantime...
Thanks again:
-Eli
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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message =
news:fv8ojn$6ig$1@aioe.org...
> eli wrote:
>> Mine read:
>>=20
>> Fan 1 0 RPM
>> Fan 2 0 RPM
>> Fan 3 0 RPM
>>=20
>>=20
>> So perhaps their activity had somehow been disabled? The temperature =
of the=20
>> HD is now showing at 51C
>>=20
>> If thats the case, can they be enabled from the Speedfan software?
>>=20
>> -eli
>>=20
>=20
> If you had no fans at all, your case would be "cooking". There must
> still be fans working in the system.
>=20
> Don't rely on software for the job. Use your eyes and ears. Take the
> side panel off the computer and have a look. Look at the back of the =
computer.
> There should be an exhaust fan on the power supply, and perhaps one =
additional
> exhaust fan, blowing warm air out of the computer.
>=20
> If Speedfan cannot locate the hardware monitor chip (read the =
detection log
> that is generated when the program starts), then there will not be any =
fans
> shown. If the fans don't have an RPM signal, then there is nothing to
> measure. That typically happens with "case" type fans - many have only =
two
> wires and lack RPM output. The CPU fan will usually have an RPM fan, =
and
> if it is hooked to the normal CPU fan header, then Speedfan should be
> able to see it. But that only works, if Speedfan can locate the
> hardware monitor.
>=20
> Speedfan scans the bus, for known hardware monitor devices. There
> have been some boards, where access to the SMBUS was made more =
difficult
> by the motherboard manufacturer (used two of them, and the regular one
> was not used).
>=20
> If Speedfan doesn't work, then look to the manufacturer of the =
computer,
> as they may have a utility to read out that stuff.
>=20
> But above all, use common sense. This is why I recommend using eyes,
> ears, and fingers, to bring some realism to measured values. If you
> can see a fan spinning, then it cannot be 0 RPM. If the case of the
> hard drive is only luke warm, then the temperature is not 55C. If the =
room
> is filled with the sound of fans spinning, then something must be
> working.
>=20
> In the upper left corner, I think I see an SMSC hardware monitor chip.
>
http://auctionmechanics.com/photos/txcess/aw2k/LotImg9789.jpg
>=20
> But someone here, tried out Speedfan, and things aren't hooked up the
> way that the program expects. Chip appears to be LPC47M534 (and so =
far,
> I haven't found any info on it).
>=20
>
http://www.bugtrack.almico.com/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3D620
>=20
> Paul
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again Paul and Ian:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I kept the cover open for about an hour =
and the=20
temp dropped to 39C---From 51C</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Inside, the main fan is working just =
fine. But=20
there's a <STRONG>smaller fan</STRONG> on the side which is<STRONG> =
silent=20
and I feel no air flow near it</STRONG>. It's much closer to =
the=20
HD than the one which is whirrring and is encased in the rear=20
part of a long gray rectangular solid to the right side of =
the=20
HD..Not sure i can locate it precisely in that photo u sent. Maybe =
it shut=20
off when the temp fell some..Dont know..When I first felt =
what =20
I believe to be the HD , it wasnt lukewarm, but bordering on hot.=20
Though I cant say just how hot it was.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Might it be advisable to keep the cover =
slightly=20
open until this is looked into by a technicain? Or is there more risk of =
too=20
much dust getting in?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ian wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><<<</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a matter of interest, what are your =
CPU and=20
chipset (motherboard)<BR>temperatures? Also, what happens to the =
HD temp=20
if you run it with<BR>the case open?=20
<BR> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;  =
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>>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Speedfan didnt give me temp preadings =
for the CPU=20
and chipset, only the HD. As I wrote above, leaving the cover open alows =
the=20
temperature of HD to drop to 39C. Wondering if I should leave that cover =
open in=20
the meantime...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Eli</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Paul" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:nospam@needed.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>nospam@needed.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
wrote in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:fv8ojn$6ig$1@aioe.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:fv8ojn$6ig$1@aioe.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> eli =
wrote:<BR>>> Mine=20
read:<BR>>> <BR>>> Fan 1 0 RPM<BR>>> Fan 2 =
0=20
RPM<BR>>> Fan 3 0 RPM<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> =
So=20
perhaps their activity had somehow been disabled? The temperature of the =
<BR>>> HD is now showing at 51C<BR>>> <BR>>> If thats =
the=20
case, can they be enabled from the Speedfan software?<BR>>> =
<BR>>>=20
-eli<BR>>> <BR>> <BR>> If you had no fans at all, your case =
would be=20
"cooking". There must<BR>> still be fans working in the =
system.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Don't rely on software for the job. Use your eyes and ears. =
Take=20
the<BR>> side panel off the computer and have a look. Look at the =
back of the=20
computer.<BR>> There should be an exhaust fan on the power supply, =
and=20
perhaps one additional<BR>> exhaust fan, blowing warm air out of the=20
computer.<BR>> <BR>> If Speedfan cannot locate the hardware =
monitor chip=20
(read the detection log<BR>> that is generated when the program =
starts), then=20
there will not be any fans<BR>> shown. If the fans don't have an RPM =
signal,=20
then there is nothing to<BR>> measure. That typically happens with =
"case"=20
type fans - many have only two<BR>> wires and lack RPM output. The =
CPU fan=20
will usually have an RPM fan, and<BR>> if it is hooked to the normal =
CPU fan=20
header, then Speedfan should be<BR>> able to see it. But that only =
works, if=20
Speedfan can locate the<BR>> hardware monitor.<BR>> <BR>> =
Speedfan=20
scans the bus, for known hardware monitor devices. There<BR>> have =
been some=20
boards, where access to the SMBUS was made more difficult<BR>> by the =
motherboard manufacturer (used two of them, and the regular one<BR>> =
was not=20
used).<BR>> <BR>> If Speedfan doesn't work, then look to the =
manufacturer=20
of the computer,<BR>> as they may have a utility to read out that=20
stuff.<BR>> <BR>> But above all, use common sense. This is why I =
recommend=20
using eyes,<BR>> ears, and fingers, to bring some realism to measured =
values.=20
If you<BR>> can see a fan spinning, then it cannot be 0 RPM. If the =
case of=20
the<BR>> hard drive is only luke warm, then the temperature is not =
55C. If=20
the room<BR>> is filled with the sound of fans spinning, then =
something must=20
be<BR>> working.<BR>> <BR>> In the upper left corner, I think I =
see an=20
SMSC hardware monitor chip.<BR>> </FONT><A=20
href=3D"
http://auctionmechanics.com/photos/txcess/aw2k/LotImg9789.jpg"><F=
ONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>
http://auctionmechanics.com/photos/txcess/aw2k/LotImg9789.jpg</F=
ONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> But someone here, tried out =
Speedfan, and things=20
aren't hooked up the<BR>> way that the program expects. Chip appears =
to be=20
LPC47M534 (and so far,<BR>> I haven't found any info on it).<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
</FONT><A=20
href=3D"
http://www.bugtrack.almico.com/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3D620"><=
FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>
http://www.bugtrack.almico.com/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3D620</=
FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> =
Paul</FONT></BODY></HTML>
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