2 External USB HD for XP and ME

Hi,

I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win ME.
Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win ME?

Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?

Thanks for your help and tips ; Novice @ New Orleans Louisiana
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Patrick
Tue May 20 19:33:40 PDT 2008

="New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win ME.
> Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win ME?

Sure. Many of them, if not most.

>
> Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?

There are two issues. The first is the file system - FAT or NTFS. If the
external drive is formatted NTFS, you won't access it with ME. So, you
have to ensure that the drive is formatted FAT32. You will be limited as
to the size of files you can copy to this drive. For FAT32, the limit is
around 4 gigabytes.

The second issue is simple, you install the ME driver that comes with the
external drive or case. The driver is for the circuitry of the case, not
for the drive. It won't allow you to access NTFS volumes from WinME.

The way I approach the external drive issue is to choose a case that I like,
which will be around $25 - $45, and then a drive that I think I can trust;
and where I am, a bare half-terabyte SATA3 disk is under $90.

If you do need to access NTFS volumes from ME, you can do this over a
network connection. Connect the external drive to the XP system, share the
drive, then go to the ME system and map the drive to a letter.

HTH
-pk


<snippage>

Mike
Tue May 20 19:37:41 PDT 2008

"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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> ="New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rmA2muuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win
>> ME. Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win
>> ME?
>
> Sure. Many of them, if not most.
>
>>
>> Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?
>
> There are two issues. The first is the file system - FAT or NTFS. If
> the external drive is formatted NTFS, you won't access it with ME. So,
> you have to ensure that the drive is formatted FAT32. You will be
> limited as to the size of files you can copy to this drive. For FAT32,
> the limit is around 4 gigabytes.
>
> The second issue is simple, you install the ME driver that comes with the
> external drive or case. The driver is for the circuitry of the case, not
> for the drive. It won't allow you to access NTFS volumes from WinME.
>
> The way I approach the external drive issue is to choose a case that I
> like, which will be around $25 - $45, and then a drive that I think I can
> trust; and where I am, a bare half-terabyte SATA3 disk is under $90.
>
> If you do need to access NTFS volumes from ME, you can do this over a
> network connection. Connect the external drive to the XP system, share
> the drive, then go to the ME system and map the drive to a letter.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
> <snippage>
>


To work with both, you will have to use the FAT32 format..

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M
Wed May 21 05:03:43 PDT 2008


"New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win ME.
> Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win ME?
>
> Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?
>

Almost all of them do. Two issues though: you have to use the FAT32 filing
system for WinME to recognise the disk. WinME will almost certainly require
a driver to be loaded. This can usually be obtained from the drive
manufacturer's website, but look out for a CD in the drive packaging.



> Thanks for your help and tips ; Novice @ New Orleans Louisiana
> "Imagination...is the irrepressible revolutionist."
>
> COMPAQ PRESARIO S5100
> Motherboard P4G533LA ASUSTeK
> Award BIOS v6.0
> Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz
> Memory DIMM SDRAM 1024
> Maxtor 6Y060L0 HD, External USB 75 GIG
> Creative Labs Audigy SE
> Monitor Envision ENVISION
> Wireless 2Wire Modem / Router
> Wireless BellSouth DSL
>

John
Wed May 21 05:22:40 PDT 2008

M.I.5¾ wrote:

> "New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rmA2muuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win ME.
>>Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win ME?
>>
>>Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?
>>
>
>
> Almost all of them do. Two issues though: you have to use the FAT32 filing
> system for WinME to recognise the disk. WinME will almost certainly require
> a driver to be loaded. This can usually be obtained from the drive
> manufacturer's website, but look out for a CD in the drive packaging.

Windows ME has built-in drivers for these drives, there would only be a
need for drivers if the drive was using non-native or proprietary drivers.

John

Mike
Wed May 21 05:29:54 PDT 2008

M.I.5 <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

> Almost all of them do. Two issues though: you have to use the FAT32
> filing system for WinME to recognise the disk. WinME will almost
> certainly require a driver to be loaded. This can usually be
> obtained from the drive manufacturer's website, but look out for a CD
> in the drive packaging.

Win Me should have the necessary usb drivers, it is Win 98/98SE that
usually requires additional drivers however if the want to use USB 2.0
they will need to look for suitable chipset drivers on the motherboard
manufacturer's web site. Another issue is if using a large drive (>137GB)
as Win Me does not properly support large drives and whilst initially all
may appear OK problems build up as the disk fills with resulting file
corruption. This shouldn't be a problem here as the OP mentions a 75GB
drive.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows
mike.maltby@gmail.com

M
Thu May 22 00:11:25 PDT 2008


"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> M.I.5¾ wrote:
>
>> "New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23rmA2muuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win
>>>ME. Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win
>>>ME?
>>>
>>>Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Almost all of them do. Two issues though: you have to use the FAT32
>> filing system for WinME to recognise the disk. WinME will almost
>> certainly require a driver to be loaded. This can usually be obtained
>> from the drive manufacturer's website, but look out for a CD in the drive
>> packaging.
>
> Windows ME has built-in drivers for these drives, there would only be a
> need for drivers if the drive was using non-native or proprietary drivers.
>

I bow to your superior knowledge. I knew Windows 98 required drivers and
assumed WinME would as well.

New
Thu May 22 05:52:35 PDT 2008

Thanks to everyone for the help. The new EXT USB HD was partitioned into
100 Gigs each, formatted to Fat32, it all works well and perfect. Slick as
a cucumber.

As a token of thanks - I cooked you New Orleans Cajun Gumbo and Jambalaya
but a dark haired dark eyed Cajun girl hi-jacked your Cajun food in the
French Quarter.


Never take someone for granted
Hold every person close to your heart
Because you might wake up one day
And realize that you've lost a diamond
While you were too busy collecting stones

New
Thu May 22 05:52:24 PDT 2008

Thanks to everyone for the help. The new EXT USB HD was partitioned into
100 Gigs each, formatted to Fat32, it all works well and perfect. Slick as
a cucumber.

As a token of thanks - I cooked you New Orleans Cajun Gumbo and Jambalaya
but a dark haired dark eyed Cajun girl hi-jacked your Cajun food in the
French Quarter.


Never take someone for granted
Hold every person close to your heart
Because you might wake up one day
And realize that you've lost a diamond
While you were too busy collecting stones

Lil'
Thu May 22 05:57:32 PDT 2008

"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23aoyU1zuIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> M.I.5¾ wrote:
>>
>>> "New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23rmA2muuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win
>>>>ME. Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win
>>>>ME?
>>>>
>>>>Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Almost all of them do. Two issues though: you have to use the FAT32
>>> filing system for WinME to recognise the disk. WinME will almost
>>> certainly require a driver to be loaded. This can usually be obtained
>>> from the drive manufacturer's website, but look out for a CD in the
>>> drive packaging.
>>
>> Windows ME has built-in drivers for these drives, there would only be a
>> need for drivers if the drive was using non-native or proprietary
>> drivers.
>>
>
> I bow to your superior knowledge. I knew Windows 98 required drivers and
> assumed WinME would as well.
>

MS provided updates specifically for 98 for USB. Some USB updates were only
specific to 98SE. With those updates installed on 98SE, it appears that it
was equivalent to ME regarding USB. Same with firewire in 98SE.
--
Dave

Norman
Wed May 28 16:39:08 PDT 2008

It would have helped if he mentioned his end goal. That is whether backing
up a few files, a small transfer, or say a complete backup, a huge transfer.
My experience with USB2 is it is not extremely fast, not near as fast as
internal drive. And if connecting via LAN or running a LAN HDD it will be
still slower on a 100Mb. Depending upon MOBO onboard or ability to add,
Gigabit LAN would offer more hope if speed is needed.

You mentioned buying a box to put that super fast SATA in but did not make
it clear what interface on the box. I'll assume USB2 as that is the slant of
the thread, but would like to through in Firewire and external SATA.
NONovice did not let us know if his MOBO has built in Firewire or the
ability to add a card for it or the SATA external. If at least one of his
systems already has Firewire then he might want to consider a dual interface
external box, USB2 & Firewire.
And what seems to be the latest thing is external SATA. A few MOBO have it
built in, but this subject I do not know in depth, and I consider it worth
researching as to reliability, etc. since it is so much faster.

Although mentioned, the roadblock at 137GB HDD, a quick check of the Seagate
manual for my last drive says that can be overcome with an addin card for
systems XP pre SP1 and earlier. And that may be so of SATA as well, but I
have no experience that way. My experience with SATA has not been good
because WME has no drivers for it and my MOBO maker provided no drivers for
my onboard SATA. It does seem to work fine under XP SP2.

Since I have the room, I may check out one of those addin cards myself since
I'm dual booting , but it won't be for awhile.
Norman

"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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> ="New Orleans Novice" <ReadingLearningWriting@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rmA2muuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have 2 PC's. 1 with XP with an External USB HD. The 2nd PC has Win
>> ME. Is there such a thing as an External USB HD that will work with Win
>> ME?
>
> Sure. Many of them, if not most.
>
>>
>> Where, when and how can I purchase it and install it?
>
> There are two issues. The first is the file system - FAT or NTFS. If
> the external drive is formatted NTFS, you won't access it with ME. So,
> you have to ensure that the drive is formatted FAT32. You will be
> limited as to the size of files you can copy to this drive. For FAT32,
> the limit is around 4 gigabytes.
>
> The second issue is simple, you install the ME driver that comes with the
> external drive or case. The driver is for the circuitry of the case, not
> for the drive. It won't allow you to access NTFS volumes from WinME.
>
> The way I approach the external drive issue is to choose a case that I
> like, which will be around $25 - $45, and then a drive that I think I can
> trust; and where I am, a bare half-terabyte SATA3 disk is under $90.
>
> If you do need to access NTFS volumes from ME, you can do this over a
> network connection. Connect the external drive to the XP system, share
> the drive, then go to the ME system and map the drive to a letter.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
> <snippage>
>