Shenan
Tue May 27 16:54:46 PDT 2008
Entire conversation:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware/browse_frm/thread/182df73873f98cde/7ba6269c318b6851#7ba6269c318b6851
Conversation that seemed to spawn this one:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware/browse_frm/thread/88b308d41a0b18fc/88b6fe138bbace78#88b6fe138bbace78
OldDuke wrote:
> Read the GROUP TITLE. Then tell me how I am WRONG. I'm not, but
> don't understand you mentally limited folk to understand that.
If you are referring to your posts that say something along the lines of,
"...meaning the question is out of place HERE. Ask elsewhere." <-- then in
the majority of cases (if not all) you are technically correct.
This thread was spawned not by that particular repeating comment made by you
in many guises (NoConsequence, etc.) This thread was started by the person
you responded to with this, "Don't post binaries in a text newsgroup. I
didn't want your crappy pictures on my hard drive." which may/may not be
technically sound depending on what newsreader you utilize, your specific
configuration and how much of a nervous clicker/curious individual you are.
(You seem to use Forte Agent 2.0/32.652.)
I do not believe anyone has a problem with your technical correctness with
the newsgroup title and telling people they may have posted in the incorrect
group for their question - I believe it is more of the read-into attitude
with which you post said comments.
They may or may not be reading into your text - as you may be posting them
with no emotion what-so-ever - the ALL UPPERCASE WORDS would lead one to
another conclusion - but could just be emphasis as well. The way your post
is really your concern and no one elses...
It boils down to this...
Just like you have a choice of whether or not to read any given posting on
any given newsgroup and decide whether or not you are going to post a
response to the postings you do read - they have to make a choice whether or
not to read and respond to any given posting.
You have chosen - for some reason - to pick what one _could_ call the 'easy
ones' and reply to them with the "you posted in the incorrect group" answer.
No further direction is given by you on how to locate the right newsgroup
group nor is any further effort put out by you (nor required - again - all
your choice) to point them in the 'right' direction. One could call these
the easy ones because they require no special knowledge really. You look at
the title of the newsgroup, read the entirety of the posting and make a
judgment call on whether that posting is out of place or not.
Now - when someone is looking for help - they may already be in a somewhat
vulnerable state. They don't know something, they admit they don't know
something and are hoping that they might be able to learn something by
asking a question. Their emotions may already be on edge. Therefore - they
may or may not see your reply as a personal attack. Then they have to
choose whether to ignore it (usually the right course) or respond.
Those who come to the defense of these people (whether or not the original
poster you were referring to ever responds) usually have one of two
purposes. They are actually defending the original poster and also wish to
provide further help (or at least guidance to the original poster) or they
just do not like you/your attitude and will proceed to attack you. That is
their choice.
This whole discussion - see the link at the top - technically has no
business in the microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware newsgroup. It's here,
though; and it will be archived for many years to come.
You seem to choose - more often or not - to provide the "wrong place"
response. Others might choose to provide the same response but with an
added "but if you try this - you might find what you need" at the end
(either just to soften the blow or genuinely help.) Many others likely
choose to just not respond at all. To each their own.
So - while this discussion has carried on way too long (and my comments are
sure to offend someone in someplace and they will have to choose whether or
not to respond - thus possibly making it carry further) - the fact is that
no one can really be sure of why you respond the way you do other than you
(and if is malicious or just stating a fact) - all they can be sure of is
how they interpreted your response and how they choose to respond (or not)
to it.
As to anything else (inference of intelligence, etc) - that's all a guess.
You are posting - where, without some research - we don't know who you
really are or what you can really do or know nor do you know whom we are and
what we can really do or know.
We do know that this particular newsgroup was setup to help people with
hardware related problems (drivers more than likely) having to do with
Windows XP. It is a public newsgroup and can be accessed through various
means from just about anywhere in the world. There are likely many archives
of it - the longest kept likely being the Google Groups version:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware/
In the end - you will keep doing what you want, I will keep doing what i
want and so on. Sometimes someone might respond to you - but in the
majority - they will likely ignore your responses and/or move on and you
will never know if it was because of your response or because they figured
it out/found a better place/found the answer elsewhere/etc... Some people
just like to argue. ;-)
Good luck!
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html