microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics folders

I presently subscribe to just this Microsoft newsgroup.

Whenever I open its folder, the highlighted number (in brackets) after the
group's name, which shows how many messages are unread), will often not
relate to the actual unread messages. For example, the highlighted number
can be 24 but there can be as few as 4 or 5 actual unread messages.

Sometimes, when there are no actual unread messages, there is a highlighted
number showing. If I close the folder and then immediately open it, the
highlighted number will often change to a different number.

Using the "Catch Up" facility does not stop this happening.

It's no big problem, just annoying.

Advice much appreciated.

Joe Steele

Big_Al
Sat Jun 14 15:20:28 PDT 2008

J&P wrote:
> I presently subscribe to just this Microsoft newsgroup.
>
> Whenever I open its folder, the highlighted number (in brackets) after the
> group's name, which shows how many messages are unread), will often not
> relate to the actual unread messages. For example, the highlighted number
> can be 24 but there can be as few as 4 or 5 actual unread messages.
>
> Sometimes, when there are no actual unread messages, there is a highlighted
> number showing. If I close the folder and then immediately open it, the
> highlighted number will often change to a different number.
>
> Using the "Catch Up" facility does not stop this happening.
>
> It's no big problem, just annoying.
>
> Advice much appreciated.
>
> Joe Steele
>
>
>
>
What Reader are you using?

in
Sat Jun 14 16:48:01 PDT 2008


In news:%23eq$fzmzIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Big_Al <BigAl@md.com> after much thought,came up with this jewel:
> J&P wrote:
>> Whenever I open its folder, the highlighted number (in brackets)
>> after the group's name, which shows how many messages are unread),
>> will often not relate to the actual unread messages. For example,
>> the highlighted number can be 24 but there can be as few as 4 or 5
>> actual unread messages.
>>
>> Sometimes, when there are no actual unread messages, there is a
>> highlighted number showing. If I close the folder and then
>> immediately open it, the highlighted number will often change to a
>> different number.
>>
>> Using the "Catch Up" facility does not stop this happening.
>>
>> It's no big problem, just annoying..

> What Reader are you using?

according to headers-OE6

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Big_Al
Sat Jun 14 17:31:04 PDT 2008

What's in a Name? wrote:
> In news:%23eq$fzmzIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> Big_Al <BigAl@md.com> after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>> J&P wrote:
>>> Whenever I open its folder, the highlighted number (in brackets)
>>> after the group's name, which shows how many messages are unread),
>>> will often not relate to the actual unread messages. For example,
>>> the highlighted number can be 24 but there can be as few as 4 or 5
>>> actual unread messages.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, when there are no actual unread messages, there is a
>>> highlighted number showing. If I close the folder and then
>>> immediately open it, the highlighted number will often change to a
>>> different number.
>>>
>>> Using the "Catch Up" facility does not stop this happening.
>>>
>>> It's no big problem, just annoying..
>
>> What Reader are you using?
>
> according to headers-OE6
>
> max
I use thunderbird about a year now, and its been doing this to me too.
So I'm not sure its your OE doing it. It might just be the way the
server reports header counts. I'll get new folders with 10,000
headers and then only download 8,000+. I've never seen #'s and then
nothing. But I do see #'s that change.

J&P
Sat Jun 14 23:12:57 PDT 2008


"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message
news:%23Ihoh8nzIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What's in a Name? wrote:
>> In news:%23eq$fzmzIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>> Big_Al <BigAl@md.com> after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>>> J&P wrote:
>>>> Whenever I open its folder, the highlighted number (in brackets)
>>>> after the group's name, which shows how many messages are unread),
>>>> will often not relate to the actual unread messages. For example,
>>>> the highlighted number can be 24 but there can be as few as 4 or 5
>>>> actual unread messages.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, when there are no actual unread messages, there is a
>>>> highlighted number showing. If I close the folder and then
>>>> immediately open it, the highlighted number will often change to a
>>>> different number.
>>>>
>>>> Using the "Catch Up" facility does not stop this happening.
>>>>
>>>> It's no big problem, just annoying..
>>
>>> What Reader are you using?
>>
>> according to headers-OE6
>>
>> max
> I use thunderbird about a year now, and its been doing this to me too. So
> I'm not sure its your OE doing it. It might just be the way the server
> reports header counts. I'll get new folders with 10,000 headers and
> then only download 8,000+. I've never seen #'s and then nothing. But I
> do see #'s that change.

Thanks for the reply. I only get it occuring in this MS group not in any BT
group.
Is it the same with you?

Joe

Big_Al
Sun Jun 15 08:58:36 PDT 2008

J&P wrote:
> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Ihoh8nzIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> What's in a Name? wrote:
>>> In news:%23eq$fzmzIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>>> Big_Al <BigAl@md.com> after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>>>> J&P wrote:
>>>>> Whenever I open its folder, the highlighted number (in brackets)
>>>>> after the group's name, which shows how many messages are unread),
>>>>> will often not relate to the actual unread messages. For example,
>>>>> the highlighted number can be 24 but there can be as few as 4 or 5
>>>>> actual unread messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes, when there are no actual unread messages, there is a
>>>>> highlighted number showing. If I close the folder and then
>>>>> immediately open it, the highlighted number will often change to a
>>>>> different number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the "Catch Up" facility does not stop this happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's no big problem, just annoying..
>>>> What Reader are you using?
>>> according to headers-OE6
>>>
>>> max
>> I use thunderbird about a year now, and its been doing this to me too. So
>> I'm not sure its your OE doing it. It might just be the way the server
>> reports header counts. I'll get new folders with 10,000 headers and
>> then only download 8,000+. I've never seen #'s and then nothing. But I
>> do see #'s that change.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I only get it occuring in this MS group not in any BT
> group.
> Is it the same with you?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
I never put anything logic to it. I just know I have to almost ignore
the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge that
there are messages. Lately in microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've
been getting #'s and yet here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it
since you started asking and I'm more aware of it.

J&P
Sun Jun 15 09:27:46 PDT 2008


"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything logic to it.
I just know I have to almost ignore
> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge that
> there are messages. Lately in microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've
> been getting #'s and yet here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it
> since you started asking and I'm more aware of it.

Have a look at:-

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/

Regards

Joe

Big_Al
Sun Jun 15 14:32:01 PDT 2008

J&P wrote:
> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything logic to it.
> I just know I have to almost ignore
>> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge that
>> there are messages. Lately in microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've
>> been getting #'s and yet here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it
>> since you started asking and I'm more aware of it.
>
> Have a look at:-
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/
>
> Regards
>
> Joe
>
>
Great for others, I have thunderbird though. And it's doing the same
thing. Its right when I refresh, which is basically what the link you
gave suggests. Not much of a fix, but at least we're not crazy.

Frank
Tue Jun 17 06:52:33 PDT 2008

"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message
news:u$Qa98yzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> J&P wrote:
>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything logic to
>> it. I just know I have to almost ignore
>>> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge that
>>> there are messages. Lately in microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've
>>> been getting #'s and yet here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it
>>> since you started asking and I'm more aware of it.
>>
>> Have a look at:-
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/
>>
> Great for others, I have thunderbird though. And it's doing the same
> thing. Its right when I refresh, which is basically what the link you
> gave suggests. Not much of a fix, but at least we're not crazy.

This is a bug caused by the MD servers getting out of synch. Doesn't show
up in all news readers. Nothing you can do about it.

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J&P
Tue Jun 17 11:18:44 PDT 2008


"Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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<snip>

> This is a bug caused by the MD servers getting out of synch. Doesn't show
> up in all news readers. Nothing you can do about it.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
> Do not reply with email

Many thanks for info. I can stop looking for a cure, now.

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Regards
Joe Steele

Gerry
Wed Jun 18 05:49:50 PDT 2008

Frank

You're point being that Microsoft have more than one news server whereas
other providers may rely on a single server?

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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM wrote:
> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message
> news:u$Qa98yzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> J&P wrote:
>>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything
>>> logic to it. I just know I have to almost ignore
>>>> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge
>>>> that there are messages. Lately in
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've been getting #'s and yet
>>>> here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it since you started
>>>> asking and I'm more aware of it.
>>>
>>> Have a look at:-
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/
>>>
>> Great for others, I have thunderbird though. And it's doing the same
>> thing. Its right when I refresh, which is basically what the link
>> you gave suggests. Not much of a fix, but at least we're not crazy.
>
> This is a bug caused by the MD servers getting out of synch. Doesn't
> show up in all news readers. Nothing you can do about it.

Gerry
Wed Jun 18 05:47:25 PDT 2008

For most people OE5 is long gone!


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J&P wrote:
> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything logic
> to it. I just know I have to almost ignore
>> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge
>> that there are messages. Lately in
>> microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've been getting #'s and yet
>> here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it since you started
>> asking and I'm more aware of it.
>
> Have a look at:-
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/
>
> Regards
>
> Joe

J&P
Wed Jun 18 07:54:48 PDT 2008

True. But I was suggesting that he look at the site which would perhaps
give a clue as to what was causing the problem. But, it was a false lead
anyway which I soon found out, and which Frank Saunders put right for me. I
hope I didn't cause inconvenience for anyone with that useless piece of
info.

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Joe Steele

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> For most people OE5 is long gone!
>
>
> --
> ~~~~
>
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> J&P wrote:
>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything logic
>> to it. I just know I have to almost ignore
>>> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge
>>> that there are messages. Lately in
>>> microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've been getting #'s and yet
>>> here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it since you started
>>> asking and I'm more aware of it.
>>
>> Have a look at:-
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Joe
>
>

Frank
Thu Jun 19 03:32:04 PDT 2008

Not really. Just if they are usinf a server farm where you don't see the
problem they keep them in synch better.

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eIVNWHU0IHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Frank
>
> You're point being that Microsoft have more than one news server whereas
> other providers may rely on a single server?
>
> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM wrote:
>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$Qa98yzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> J&P wrote:
>>>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > I never put anything
>>>> logic to it. I just know I have to almost ignore
>>>>> the numbers. They are close, 100 may mean 90 but its just a gauge
>>>>> that there are messages. Lately in
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.moviemaker I've been getting #'s and yet
>>>>> here are none. Maybe I'm just noticing it since you started
>>>>> asking and I'm more aware of it.
>>>>
>>>> Have a look at:-
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199507/
>>>>
>>> Great for others, I have thunderbird though. And it's doing the same
>>> thing. Its right when I refresh, which is basically what the link
>>> you gave suggests. Not much of a fix, but at least we're not crazy.
>>
>> This is a bug caused by the MD servers getting out of synch. Doesn't
>> show up in all news readers. Nothing you can do about it.