Olórin
Thu May 08 01:16:06 PDT 2008
"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:eyePo2LsIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:07:51 -0400, inkleputDEL@ETEisp.com wrote:
>>
>>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> said:
>>
>>>> I gather that it never occurred to you why they publish that
>>>> "Networking for Dummies" book? Surely you know the one:
>>
>>>> Home Networking for Dummies, by Kathy Ivens. Published by John
>>>> Wiley & Sons Inc.
>>
>>> I do not deny being a dummy about networking. I have read all kinds
>>> of things in all kinds of places, over and over again. It's
>>> interesting that almost anyone who gets networking invariably
>>> assumes that one who doesn't understand it is a total lazy ass who
>>> never attempts so much as to lift a finger. I've seen that so many
>>> times in so many places it's nausiating.
>>
>> The basic information is out there. If you didn't grasp it from the
>> basic information available, I don't know what to think. Despite the
>> claims of publishers of OSes and networking hardware, networking
>> isn't easy. Deity knows I see all kinds of troubles people get into
>> because they thought the manufacturers claims of "ease of use" were
>> factual. All the Wizards on all of the D-Link, Linksys, and Netgear
>> install disks are often no help when a newbie gets into trouble.
>>
>> But, if you had truly "read all kinds of things in all kinds of
>> places", you would not have made this basic error:
>>
>> "An IP address on the internet is a destination to look for."
>>
>> Most people don't look for a destination, they already know it, in
>> the form of a "Fully Qualified Domain Name" (Google it, and learn
>> something new). If they don't know a destination, they search
>> (Google) using key words, not IP addresses. The finding of IP
>> addresses is a, largely, transparent ("behind the scenes") operation
>> of the ISP DNS servers. End users, even experienced ones, generally
>> don't worry about IP addresses in the normal course of surfing the
>> Internet.
>>
>> Technically, (and, having "read all kinds of things in all kinds of
>> places", you should have known this) an IP address is a unique device
>> address on an IP network. Every device on an IP network must have a
>> unique IP address. Including the one from which requests are made to
>> other machines, using either FQDNs, or IP addresses (if known).
>>
>>> Surely you can find something clever and derogatory to say about the
>>> fact that I literally can't remember 5% of what I read any more.
>>> I'll not explain why, because that invites a whole new level of
>>> sneer about something that can't possibly be grasped by those who
>>> haven't been there.
>>
>> The "* for Dummies" series of books is a time honored series of
>> primers, written with self-deprecatory humor, which taught my parents
>> much about computers. My mother recently shipped off her "MS DOS for
>> Dummies" and "Windows for Dummies" books to the Goodwill. Maybe some
>> other, less sensitive, newbie will find them useful. The authors of
>> the books start out from the premise that they, themselves, are among
>> the "Dumbest Dummies" to lay hands on whatever the topic of their
>> book is about.
>
> Wow, must be a full moon tonight! You're quite the idiot.
>
Bam, three posts in a row from you helping the OP not one jot, doing nothing
but adding gratuitous insults to responders - "closed mind spews its
tripe", "balderdash spewed out... get a life" & "quite the idiot". What's
your problem, for crying out loud??
That was rhetorical.
*plonk*