I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder
settings.
So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was
NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.
The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the
correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it as
Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.
After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.
Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any way
to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their
program?
Thanks!

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by PA

PA
Wed Mar 05 16:20:19 PST 2008

TweakUI was not written by MS, it's not part of Windows, and MS doesn't
support it:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Puff wrote:
> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder
> settings.
> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was
> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.
> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the
> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it
> as
> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.
> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.
> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any
> way to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in
> their
> program?
> Thanks!


Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by HEMI-Powered

HEMI-Powered
Wed Mar 05 16:48:58 PST 2008

PA Bear [MS MVP] added these comments in the current discussion
du jour ...

> TweakUI was not written by MS, it's not part of Windows, and
> MS doesn't support it:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowert
> oys.mspx

I thought that the original PowerToys were written after-hours and
unofficially by MS programmers and released via MS's web site as a
courtesy to customers. I understand that MS has never supported
them but they're still distributed via MS's web site. What has
always puzzled me is why MS never incorporated the many nifty toys
into base Windows. It isn't that these things are necessarily
dangerous, they are, in my view, worthwhile additions to the O/S
and should be supported.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Surely you jest - and don't call me Shirley!" - from the movie
"Airplane!"

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Ramesh,

Ramesh,
Wed Mar 05 22:08:58 PST 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/9=
1cd4b0df80d5c69

--=20
Regards,

Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
Windows=C2=AE Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com
Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog


"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...
I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder=20
settings.=20
So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was =

NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website. =20
The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the=20
correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered =
it as=20
Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.=20
After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.=20
Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there =
any way=20
to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their=20
program?=20
Thanks!

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by VanguardLH

VanguardLH
Thu Mar 06 05:53:58 PST 2008

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
news:ewRGHGyfIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> TweakUI was not written by MS, it's not part of Windows, and MS
> doesn't support it:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx


Not entirely correct. TweakUI (and other powertoys) are written by
Microsoft programmers. Microsoft wrote them, Microsoft makes them
available, but Microsoft does not SUPPORT them. At many companies,
their employees write up utilities that are handy for their own use.
Often they might roll these up into a package that they make available
to their customers. I've often seen such packages show up for UNIX
(IBM AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, etc.). They are written by the company but
they are provided as-is.

If you use a hex editor on TweakUI.exe, you will see that Microsoft is
identified as the company, owner, and even has their Verisign cert
recorded.


Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Puff

Puff
Thu Mar 06 07:21:02 PST 2008


Hi all!
I love how the buck gets passed "If it looks like a duck, waddles like a
duck and quacks like a duck, Microsoft says it's a chicken and we didn't do
it!" (LOL)
OH WELL :(

Ramesh,
Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.
Kelly's site is awesome!


---
"Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
> Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com
> Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
>
>
> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...
> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder
> settings.
> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was
> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.
> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the
> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it as
> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.
> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.
> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any way
> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their
> program?
> Thanks!
>

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by -Phil

-Phil
Fri Mar 14 09:02:58 PDT 2008


"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7767F562-631D-4780-B4F4-D14FE7BA4D85@microsoft.com...
>
> Hi all!
> I love how the buck gets passed "If it looks like a duck, waddles like a
> duck and quacks like a duck, Microsoft says it's a chicken and we didn't
> do
> it!" (LOL)
> OH WELL :(
>
> Ramesh,
> Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.
> Kelly's site is awesome!
>

Your post seemsto be about if anyone else noticed the error and if there
was any way to notify developers.
Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they
could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.
The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does not
support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying
anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it seems
they are replying in defense of Microsoft.
That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show that
they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for
themselves out of interest) the error...
anyway, MY question is...
Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D
> ---
> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>> Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com
>> Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog
>>
>>
>> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...
>> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder
>> settings.
>> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It
>> was
>> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.
>> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the
>> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered
>> it as
>> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.
>> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.
>> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there
>> any way
>> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their
>> program?
>> Thanks!
>>



Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Donald

Donald
Fri Mar 14 13:41:07 PDT 2008

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:02:58 -0400, "-Phil Clemence"
<me@loose_ends.com> wrote:

>
>"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:7767F562-631D-4780-B4F4-D14FE7BA4D85@microsoft.com...
>>
>> Hi all!
>> I love how the buck gets passed "If it looks like a duck, waddles like a
>> duck and quacks like a duck, Microsoft says it's a chicken and we didn't
>> do
>> it!" (LOL)
>> OH WELL :(
>>
>> Ramesh,
>> Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.
>> Kelly's site is awesome!
>>
>
>Your post seemsto be about if anyone else noticed the error and if there
>was any way to notify developers.
>Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they
>could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.
>The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does not
>support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying
>anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it seems
>they are replying in defense of Microsoft.
>That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show that
>they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for
>themselves out of interest) the error...
>anyway, MY question is...
>Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D

So you expect US to use OUR time to work on YOUR problem, which YOU
claim to not have the time to work on?

If you "try to manage your time", and because of this, can't find the
time to do your OWN research, and expect us to do YOUR work, you are
nothing but a lazy idiot.

WHY do you expect US to do YOUR research on OUR time? Normally, such
research is quite expensive. Unless you open up your pocket-book, why
should we do YOUR work when you claim not to have the time for it?

You really are "cheap", sir.

>>>
>>> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...
>>> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder
>>> settings.
>>> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It
>>> was
>>> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.
>>> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the
>>> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered
>>> it as
>>> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.
>>> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.
>>> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there
>>> any way
>>> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their
>>> program?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>


--
Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Puff

Puff
Sat Mar 15 07:57:01 PDT 2008

To Phil Clemence:
It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to the
support page, then not
being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after XP
home came out.
Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't own
or support a product that they have their name associated with "Microsoft
PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the
disclaimer on their site:
"Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should, but
they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For this
reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about
PowerToys."
Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this instance,
but it seems in
ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass the
buck" more
and more each day.
I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can not
add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person like
myself can email them directly, telling them
that I noticed their oops. That seems so much less frustrating and a heck of
a lot more logical!
Don't you think?
--
"-Phil Clemence" wrote:
>
> Your post seems to be about if anyone else noticed the error and if there
was any way to notify developers.
Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they
could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.
The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does not
support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying
anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it seems
they are replying in defense of Microsoft.
That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show that
they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for
themselves out of interest) the error...
anyway, MY question is...
Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D
> ---


Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Frank

Frank
Sat Mar 15 12:22:48 PDT 2008

"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4CD8FA0E-3DE8-4547-8AC7-82849B6B4795@microsoft.com...
> To Phil Clemence:
> It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to
> the
> support page, then not
> being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after XP
> home came out.
> Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't
> own
> or support a product that they have their name associated with "Microsoft
> PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the
> disclaimer on their site:
> "Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should,
> but
> they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For this
> reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about
> PowerToys."
> Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this
> instance,
> but it seems in
> ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass
> the
> buck" more
> and more each day.
> I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can
> not
> add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person
> like
> myself can email them directly, telling them
> that I noticed their oops. That seems so much less frustrating and a heck
> of
> a lot more logical!
> Don't you think?


You may think that seems less frustrating and more logical, but that doesn't
change the fact that no one supports Power Toys.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not reply with email


Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Donald

Donald
Sun Mar 16 13:33:25 PDT 2008

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:57:01 -0700, Puff
<Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>To Phil Clemence:
>It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to the
>support page, then not being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after XP
>home came out.

>Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't own
>or support a product that they have their name associated with "Microsoft
>PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the disclaimer on their site:
>"Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should, but
>they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For this
>reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about
>PowerToys."

>Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this instance,
>but it seems in ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass the
>buck" more and more each day.

>I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can not
>add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person like
>myself can email them directly, telling them that I noticed their oops.

>That seems so much less frustrating and a heck of
>a lot more logical! Don't you think?


In the first place, I don't know why you are having any trouble with
PowerToys. It is one of the most well-behaved XP apps I've ever seen.

IF you are having problems with it, it must be because of some other
problem with your system.

I suggest you look elsewhere to troubleshoot your problem.

But in answer to your question:
It would seem to be frustrating, since you are apparently frustrated
by it.

However, I do not understand your position that your explanation is
"logical". Obviously, if no one else is having the problem, expecting
someone somewhere to "take responsibility" is not "logical", but just
a means of assigning fault.


--
Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by Uwe

Uwe
Sun Mar 16 14:26:21 PDT 2008

Donald L McDaniel wrote:
>> Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this instance,
>> but it seems in ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass the
>> buck" more and more each day.
>
>> I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can not
>> add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person like
>> myself can email them directly, telling them that I noticed their oops.
>
>> That seems so much less frustrating and a heck of
>> a lot more logical! Don't you think?
>
>
> In the first place, I don't know why you are having any trouble with
> PowerToys. It is one of the most well-behaved XP apps I've ever seen.

Oh no, it has several bugs. I know about three, others may
know more.

Under My Computer -> Drive Letters the list is wrong. For
instance you have to select "Never show drive letters"
to get the drive letters before the label.

Under My Computer -> AutoPlay -> Types it completely
ignores the Windows default values. So, once used,
AutoPlay is activated for network and unknown drives.
No way to deactivated it again using TweakUI.

And the 'Bag MRU' / 'BagMRU' bug which this thread stated
with...






Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error by -Phil

-Phil
Mon Mar 17 13:45:22 PDT 2008


"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4CD8FA0E-3DE8-4547-8AC7-82849B6B4795@microsoft.com...
> To Phil Clemence:
> It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to
> the
> support page, then not
> being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after
> XP
> home came out.
> Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't
> own
> or support a product that they have their name associated with
> "Microsoft
> PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the
> disclaimer on their site:
> "Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should,
> but
> they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For
> this
> reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about
> PowerToys."
> Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this
> instance,
> but it seems in
> ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass
> the
> buck" more
> and more each day.
> I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can
> not
> add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person
> like
> myself can email them directly, telling them
> that I noticed their oops. That seems so much less frustrating and a
> heck of
> a lot more logical!
> Don't you think?
> --

oh.. well it is a shame that no one really DOES support it.
But it was free, after all.
As the people here say, we can't expect those indiviuals to support it..
and Microsoft ? They probably donated some time to it while those guys
were fooling around :)
Now, if you want to argue that the capability of a UI for tweaking should
have been a part of Windows... well YEAH !! LOL!


> "-Phil Clemence" wrote:
>>
>> Your post seems to be about if anyone else noticed the error and if
>> there
> was any way to notify developers.
> Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they
> could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.
> The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does
> not
> support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying
> anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it
> seems
> they are replying in defense of Microsoft.
> That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show
> that
> they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for
> themselves out of interest) the error...
> anyway, MY question is...
> Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D
>> ---
>