Installing or upgrading programs - Closing open programs

Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing or
upgrading a program.

Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the icons
adjacent to the clock)

Many thanks.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA

eckrichco
Tue Apr 15 19:44:00 PDT 2008

As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities need to be
off.

"Don Schmidt" wrote:

> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing or
> upgrading a program.
>
> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the icons
> adjacent to the clock)
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>
>
>

Don
Tue Apr 15 21:02:50 PDT 2008

So the programs in the Systray need to be closed, correct? Removed from the
systray.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


"Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
news:AB62E0C8-D472-4E60-9B1D-E1F4C2CE191D@microsoft.com...
> As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities need to
> be
> off.
>
> "Don Schmidt" wrote:
>
>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing or
>> upgrading a program.
>>
>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the
>> icons
>> adjacent to the clock)
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Vancouver, USA
>>
>>
>>

Xandros
Tue Apr 15 22:04:12 PDT 2008


No you can leave those alone. Just don't have any major programs running
like Internet Explorer, Word, games, Outlook Express etc. In other words
anything that has an open window running. You can leave the stuff in the
systray alone.

--

Xandros


"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
news:6-ydnV4hHZr355jVnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@palinacquisition...
> So the programs in the Systray need to be closed, correct? Removed from
> the systray.
>
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>
>
> "Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:AB62E0C8-D472-4E60-9B1D-E1F4C2CE191D@microsoft.com...
>> As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities need to
>> be
>> off.
>>
>> "Don Schmidt" wrote:
>>
>>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing or
>>> upgrading a program.
>>>
>>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the
>>> icons
>>> adjacent to the clock)
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>> Vancouver, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

DL
Wed Apr 16 01:36:00 PDT 2008

The instructions to 'close' are a throw back to earlier versions of win &
installation apps, when particularly anti virus apps could cause problems
with an install. Its rare these days for any such problems to be caused.

"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
news:6-ydnV4hHZr355jVnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@palinacquisition...
> So the programs in the Systray need to be closed, correct? Removed from
> the systray.
>
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>
>
> "Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:AB62E0C8-D472-4E60-9B1D-E1F4C2CE191D@microsoft.com...
>> As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities need to
>> be
>> off.
>>
>> "Don Schmidt" wrote:
>>
>>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing or
>>> upgrading a program.
>>>
>>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the
>>> icons
>>> adjacent to the clock)
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>> Vancouver, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Gerry
Wed Apr 16 02:19:31 PDT 2008

DL

I have never paid over much attention to such instructions but then I
tend not to have over many programs open at any time. It would seem
sensible not to have other programmes competing for CPU and memory when
installing a programme. Computers with limited resources plus Norton or
McAfee running could encounter problems.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DL wrote:
> The instructions to 'close' are a throw back to earlier versions of
> win & installation apps, when particularly anti virus apps could
> cause problems with an install. Its rare these days for any such
> problems to be caused.
> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
> news:6-ydnV4hHZr355jVnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>> So the programs in the Systray need to be closed, correct? Removed
>> from the systray.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Vancouver, USA
>>
>>
>> "Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:AB62E0C8-D472-4E60-9B1D-E1F4C2CE191D@microsoft.com...
>>> As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities
>>> need to be
>>> off.
>>>
>>> "Don Schmidt" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when
>>>> installing or upgrading a program.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray?
>>>> (the icons
>>>> adjacent to the clock)
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>> Vancouver, USA

Olórin
Wed Apr 16 03:04:49 PDT 2008

Xandros wrote:
> No you can leave those alone. Just don't have any major programs
> running like Internet Explorer, Word, games, Outlook Express etc. In
> other words anything that has an open window running. You can leave
> the stuff in the systray alone.
>
>
> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
> news:6-ydnV4hHZr355jVnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>> So the programs in the Systray need to be closed, correct? Removed
>> from the systray.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Vancouver, USA
>>
>>
>> "Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:AB62E0C8-D472-4E60-9B1D-E1F4C2CE191D@microsoft.com...
>>> As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities
>>> need to be
>>> off.
>>>
>>> "Don Schmidt" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when
>>>> installing or upgrading a program.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray?
>>>> (the icons
>>>> adjacent to the clock)
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>> Vancouver, USA

Usual non-answer from Andrew E. "Optional programs or utilities"???

I'd agree with Xandros - just be sure to include any major programs that can
be set to "minimise to tray" - eg eMule & BitComet, off the top of my head.
Those should be closed, too.

Don
Wed Apr 16 03:23:30 PDT 2008

Thanks to all of you folks. Ol Donald did learn something new today and
it's early; should be a great day.

Many thanks.


--
Don - Vancouver, USA
"May your shadow be found in happy places." - Native North American


"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uoScFM6nIHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> DL
>
> I have never paid over much attention to such instructions but then I tend
> not to have over many programs open at any time. It would seem sensible
> not to have other programmes competing for CPU and memory when installing
> a programme. Computers with limited resources plus Norton or McAfee
> running could encounter problems.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> DL wrote:
>> The instructions to 'close' are a throw back to earlier versions of
>> win & installation apps, when particularly anti virus apps could
>> cause problems with an install. Its rare these days for any such
>> problems to be caused.
>> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
>> news:6-ydnV4hHZr355jVnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@palinacquisition...
>>> So the programs in the Systray need to be closed, correct? Removed
>>> from the systray.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>> Vancouver, USA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AB62E0C8-D472-4E60-9B1D-E1F4C2CE191D@microsoft.com...
>>>> As in close WMP,or office,etc,any optional programs or utilities
>>>> need to be
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> "Don Schmidt" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when
>>>>> installing or upgrading a program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray?
>>>>> (the icons
>>>>> adjacent to the clock)
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>> Vancouver, USA
>
>

Urbane
Wed Apr 16 04:25:44 PDT 2008

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:04:12 -0600, "Xandros"
<arron.neus*remove*@gmai.lcom> wrote:

>No you can leave those alone. Just don't have any major programs running
>like Internet Explorer, Word, games, Outlook Express etc. In other words
>anything that has an open window running. You can leave the stuff in the
>systray alone.

There is no absolutely no difference between a task that appears in
the Task Bar and a task that appears in the System Tray. Some
programs have a user setting that determines where the task appears
when when minimised.

The suggestion that you close down running programs is a hang over
from Win3.1, Win98 days, when installs would frequently crash the OS.
It's prudent however to save and close any open files in apps like
Word, Excel, half written emails etc, but in general you can ignore
the message.

If you want to slavishly follow the instructions you should close all
applications whether they be in the taskbar or the systray. You may
have some things in the sys tray that can't be closed - e.g the
removable device handler.

Ken
Wed Apr 16 06:31:47 PDT 2008

"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
news:JM-dna0h1sMix5jVnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@palinacquisition...

> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing or
> upgrading a program.
>
> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the
> icons adjacent to the clock)


The reason you are told to close any open programs is that the installation
may need to replace a shared file, such as a dll. If a program has that file
open, the installation will fail.

That risk is pretty much the same whether you're talking about background
programs (many of which, but not all, run in the System Tray) or foreground
programs.

In my experience, that happens extremely seldom, either with foreground or
background programs, so I never close down anything. In the unlikely event
that the installation fails, I'll just do it again, and shut down everything
that time.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Desktop Experience
Please reply to the newsgroup

Twayne
Fri Apr 18 06:57:21 PDT 2008

> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing
> or upgrading a program.
>
> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the
> icons adjacent to the clock)
>
> Many thanks.

No. It means programs you might be using: Office, notepad, outlook
express, etc.. The reason is to free up memory space plus avoid the
danger of losing work you may have in progress. Don't worry about the
systray.

--
--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org

Don
Fri Apr 18 09:50:18 PDT 2008

Thanks for the advice.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:urfKfwVoIHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Often, you see the notice to close any open programs when installing
>> or upgrading a program.
>>
>> Question: Does this include the programs running in the systray? (the
>> icons adjacent to the clock)
>>
>> Many thanks.
>
> No. It means programs you might be using: Office, notepad, outlook
> express, etc.. The reason is to free up memory space plus avoid the
> danger of losing work you may have in progress. Don't worry about the
> systray.
>
> --
> --
> Regards,
>
> Twayne
>
> Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
> OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
> www.openoffice.org
>
>
>