Defrag Hard Drive

I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G hard
drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4 hours,
showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work. Extrapolating the
first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully defrag. Does that sound
reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time required? Thanks for your
feedback.

Jerry
Sat Jun 28 13:19:49 PDT 2008

That depends. If you've never defragged your hard drive it could take as
long as it has because the defrag is cleaning up the mess. If you've
periodically defragged then the time could be shorter. So, which is it?
Never or periodically? But, you're right, the time does seem excessive.

"JW" <jwilliams644@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G hard
> drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4 hours,
> showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work. Extrapolating the
> first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully defrag. Does that sound
> reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time required? Thanks for your
> feedback.
>

VanguardLH
Sat Jun 28 14:05:55 PDT 2008

"JW" in <news:#FbGskV2IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> wrote:

> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G hard
> drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4 hours,
> showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work. Extrapolating the
> first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully defrag. Does that sound
> reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time required? Thanks for your
> feedback.

How much free space is there in the partition (hard drive) being
defragmented? Is there 20% free disk space?

What was that level of defragmentation that the analysis reported?

What processes do you have running or that you are running that might be
repeatedly accessing the hard drive during the defragmentation? Tried
rebooting into Safe Mode?

Is this old and slow hardware or new and bleeding edge high-speed
hardware? Drives spin at what RPM? ATA spec for for hard disks? PATA
or SATA? Bus clock speed? CPU? Total physical memory? The point is
not to tell us your hardware specs but for you to understand that native
hardware performance will affect how fast anything runs on your host.

Why are YOU bothering to run the defrag and then have to wait for it to
complete? Created a scheduled event in Task Scheduler to run the defrag
while you are sleeping. Configure the event to terminate the process
after, say, 8 hours or less depending on when you expect to next want to
use your computer without the background overhead of a running defrag
job. It may only get 20% of the way through the defrag. Schedule the
event to run once per month. After awhile, it will get progressively
more defragged until it probably runs a couple of minutes.

JS
Sat Jun 28 14:06:45 PDT 2008

Time seems way too long, it could be your drive has dropped back to PIO mode
and is no longer running at Ultra DMA speeds.
Also the amount of remaining "Free space" could be low, how much free space
is available?

Download HD Tune, provides drive mode PIO/DMA info (click on the 'Info' tab)
and has an option to test your drive.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Also SpeedFan has an online analysis feature for hard drives.
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

JS

"JW" <jwilliams644@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G hard
> drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4 hours,
> showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work. Extrapolating the
> first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully defrag. Does that sound
> reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time required? Thanks for your
> feedback.
>

Justin
Sat Jun 28 14:21:46 PDT 2008

Comment at the bottom

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take everything you have.' ........ Thomas Jefferson
"JW" <jwilliams644@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G hard
> drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4 hours,
> showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work. Extrapolating the
> first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully defrag. Does that sound
> reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time required? Thanks for your
> feedback.
>

On the subject of defragmentation, the folks who provide the excellent
CrapCleaner program (CCleaner) also offer a defragmenter, "Defraggler." Has
anyone tried it?

Ken Bland

VanguardLH
Sat Jun 28 14:28:06 PDT 2008

"Justin Thyme" in <news:g46a1g$o2$1@registered.motzarella.org> wrote:

> Comment at the bottom

But there is no comment at the bottom. Why? Because you inserted the
sigdash line at the top so everything afterward was part of your
signature. The sigdash delimiter ends the body of your post.

Justin
Sat Jun 28 14:45:37 PDT 2008


"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> "Justin Thyme" in <news:g46a1g$o2$1@registered.motzarella.org> wrote:
>
>> Comment at the bottom
>
> But there is no comment at the bottom. Why? Because you inserted the
> sigdash line at the top so everything afterward was part of your
> signature. The sigdash delimiter ends the body of your post.

I understand.

Trying once more.

On the subject of defragmentation, the folks who provide the excellent
CrapCleaner program (CCleaner) also offer a defragmenter, "Defraggler." Has
anyone tried it?

Ken Bland

Gerry
Sat Jun 28 15:13:32 PDT 2008

JW

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select
Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More
Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore
point. Now try running Disk Defragmenter.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



JW wrote:
> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G
> hard drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4
> hours, showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work.
> Extrapolating the first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully
> defrag. Does that sound reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time
> required? Thanks for your feedback.

Xandros
Sat Jun 28 15:41:19 PDT 2008

"Justin Thyme" <Ken_Bland@Mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
> news:IaWdnbO434N7MfvVnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> "Justin Thyme" in <news:g46a1g$o2$1@registered.motzarella.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Comment at the bottom
>>
>> But there is no comment at the bottom. Why? Because you inserted the
>> sigdash line at the top so everything afterward was part of your
>> signature. The sigdash delimiter ends the body of your post.
>
> I understand.
>
> Trying once more.
>
> On the subject of defragmentation, the folks who provide the excellent
> CrapCleaner program (CCleaner) also offer a defragmenter, "Defraggler."
> Has
> anyone tried it?
>
> Ken Bland
>

check here http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showforum=19



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Xandros

Don
Sat Jun 28 18:43:30 PDT 2008

I use Defraggler; works very well. It gives you the option to defrag files
or files and free space.


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Don
Vancouver, USA


"Justin Thyme" <Ken_Bland@Mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Comment at the bottom
>
> --
> 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to
> take everything you have.' ........ Thomas Jefferson
> "JW" <jwilliams644@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23FbGskV2IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G hard
>> drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4 hours,
>> showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work. Extrapolating
>> the first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully defrag. Does that
>> sound reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time required? Thanks for your
>> feedback.
>>
>
> On the subject of defragmentation, the folks who provide the excellent
> CrapCleaner program (CCleaner) also offer a defragmenter, "Defraggler."
> Has anyone tried it?
>
> Ken Bland
>

jimbo571
Sun Jun 29 00:45:28 PDT 2008

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:21:46 -0600, "Justin Thyme"
<Ken_Bland@Mindspring.com> wrote:

>Comment at the bottom

Yes ; it works just like any other .

rstu211
Sun Jun 29 03:05:09 PDT 2008


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VanguardLH
Sun Jun 29 13:16:25 PDT 2008

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Try again.

doodle
Tue Jul 01 01:52:30 PDT 2008


Maybe you dont have enough free space? Did you run a diskcleanup befor
the defrag? The built in tool does take very long if you are defraggin
for the first time. You could try one of the third party tools tha
complete the task faster. Some defrag even with much less than th
minimum free space requirement.





Gerry;3145475 Wrote:
> JW
>
> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
> Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Als
> select
> Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More
> Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore
> point. Now try running Disk Defragmenter.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> JW wrote:-
> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G
> hard drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4
> hours, showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work.
> Extrapolating the first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully
> defrag. Does that sound reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time
> required? Thanks for your feedback.


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doodle

Twayne
Tue Jul 01 08:38:00 PDT 2008

> Maybe you dont have enough free space? Did you run a diskcleanup
> before the defrag? The built in tool does take very long if you are
> defragging for the first time. You could try one of the third party
> tools that complete the task faster. Some defrag even with much less
> than the minimum free space requirement.

Disk Cleanup also compresses seldom used files for when you're trying to
eek out the last available bit on the drive. But ANYTHING is temporary
in that way; the right answer is a larger hard drive.

>
>
>
>
>
> Gerry;3145475 Wrote:
>> JW
>>
>> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
>> to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
>> select
>> Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More
>> Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore
>> point. Now try running Disk Defragmenter.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> JW wrote:-
>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2. I ran the defrag analysis on my 57G
>> hard drive and got a recommendation to defrag. I stopped it after 4
>> hours, showing only 10% complete, so that I could do some work.
>> Extrapolating the first 10%, that's almost two 24 hour days to fully
>> defrag. Does that sound reasonable? Is the benefit worth the time
>> required? Thanks for your feedback. -