Article expired?

There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable
because they are "expired"?
Is expiration determined by aging?
Why are these articles in my index?
Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?

Shenan
Tue Jun 03 12:02:59 PDT 2008

Ken wrote:
> There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable
> because they are "expired"?
> Is expiration determined by aging?
> Why are these articles in my index?
> Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?

What articles?
What index?
What are you talking about?

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Jim
Tue Jun 03 12:03:59 PDT 2008


"Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
news:u5eY1gaxIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable because they
> are "expired"?
> Is expiration determined by aging?
> Why are these articles in my index?
> Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?
Yes
Your computer keeps the index, but the ISP has the item.
Not unless you can find a copy on another server.
Every server has its own rules about how long articles are kept there.
Jim

Olórin
Wed Jun 04 01:43:23 PDT 2008


"Jim" <jim-norris@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
> news:u5eY1gaxIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable because they
>> are "expired"?
>> Is expiration determined by aging?
>> Why are these articles in my index?
>> Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?
> Yes
> Your computer keeps the index, but the ISP has the item.
> Not unless you can find a copy on another server.
> Every server has its own rules about how long articles are kept there.
> Jim
>

Aha - Ken's asking about old newsgroup postings dropping off his server.
Well interpreted, Jim.

Ken
Wed Jun 04 06:54:56 PDT 2008

Olórin wrote:
> "Jim" <jim-norris@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
> news:OpJdXyaxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
>> news:u5eY1gaxIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable because they
>>> are "expired"?
>>> Is expiration determined by aging?
>>> Why are these articles in my index?
>>> Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?
>> Yes
>> Your computer keeps the index, but the ISP has the item.
>> Not unless you can find a copy on another server.
>> Every server has its own rules about how long articles are kept there.
>> Jim
>>
>
> Aha - Ken's asking about old newsgroup postings dropping off his server.
> Well interpreted, Jim.
>
>
Yes, that's what I was talking about. Sorry for the
vagueness of the post.

Allan
Wed Jun 04 21:08:43 PDT 2008


"Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
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> Olórin wrote:
>> "Jim" <jim-norris@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
>> news:OpJdXyaxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:u5eY1gaxIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable because
>>>> they are "expired"?
>>>> Is expiration determined by aging?
>>>> Why are these articles in my index?
>>>> Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?
>>> Yes
>>> Your computer keeps the index, but the ISP has the item.
>>> Not unless you can find a copy on another server.
>>> Every server has its own rules about how long articles are kept there.
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>> Aha - Ken's asking about old newsgroup postings dropping off his server.
>> Well interpreted, Jim.
> Yes, that's what I was talking about. Sorry for the vagueness of the post.
Some newsreaders allow you to "cache" posts so that you can still access
them after they have been deleted from the server. Sometimes these are also
denoted as "dormant" items. Of course, you can always copy posts to another
folder such as "Inbox" if you need to save them for posterity.

Ken
Thu Jun 05 06:10:20 PDT 2008

Allan wrote:
>
> "Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
> news:On0xUqkxIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Olórin wrote:
>>> "Jim" <jim-norris@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OpJdXyaxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:u5eY1gaxIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> There are a number of items in my index that are unavailable
>>>>> because they are "expired"?
>>>>> Is expiration determined by aging?
>>>>> Why are these articles in my index?
>>>>> Is it possible to retrieve expired articles?
>>>> Yes
>>>> Your computer keeps the index, but the ISP has the item.
>>>> Not unless you can find a copy on another server.
>>>> Every server has its own rules about how long articles are kept there.
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>
>>> Aha - Ken's asking about old newsgroup postings dropping off his
>>> server. Well interpreted, Jim.
>> Yes, that's what I was talking about. Sorry for the vagueness of the
>> post.
> Some newsreaders allow you to "cache" posts so that you can still access
> them after they have been deleted from the server. Sometimes these are
> also denoted as "dormant" items. Of course, you can always copy posts to
> another folder such as "Inbox" if you need to save them for posterity.
... but I don't know ahead of time when I might want to see
an item or thread.
When I run into a problem or have a question I will search
an appropriate newsgroup with key words. It's frustrating to
see a subject line that may be useful and then find that the
item has been erased.

Allan
Thu Jun 05 20:17:03 PDT 2008


"Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
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... but I don't know ahead of time when I might want to see
> an item or thread.
> When I run into a problem or have a question I will search an appropriate
> newsgroup with key words. It's frustrating to see a subject line that may
> be useful and then find that the item has been erased.
You could get a newsreader that caches posts and set it to cache everything
you read but that will use lots of disk space. Some people actually do this
at least for certain newsgroups.

ggull
Fri Jun 06 04:51:58 PDT 2008

"Allan" <mu8ja0i@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken" <mystery@nomail.net> wrote in message
> news:%23HM1E2wxIHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ... but I don't know ahead of time when I might want to see
>> an item or thread.
>> When I run into a problem or have a question I will search an appropriate
>> newsgroup with key words. It's frustrating to see a subject line that may
>> be useful and then find that the item has been erased.
> You could get a newsreader that caches posts and set it to cache
> everything you read but that will use lots of disk space. Some people
> actually do this at least for certain newsgroups.

A) if it's a consistent annoyance, you (Ken) could subscribe to a separate
news server. I just googled on that term and one that popped up offers 5
year retention of text groups. (Note: I've never used such a service, but
others seem satisfied.) Or

B) if it's only occasional, why not use the Google groups (aka Dejanews)?
I'm not crazy about the interface, but it'll probably have the articles you
want. With the advanced search, it's not hard to find a particular
article/thread from the group and subject line (and maybe date if that's
something like "XP SP2").