I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get corrupted, and I have
to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and macros.
Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program all the macros and forms in
Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to manipulate Word's
built in functioning.
Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.

Marc Hankin

Re: .dot files get corrupted w/time, so iwhy not use Vb.net w/automati by Jezebel

Jezebel
Sun Jan 30 19:06:38 CST 2005

I think there must be something else going on with your system. I've done a
*lot* of Word programming over the past decade: corrupt templates is simply
not an issue. A few of my templates, with macros, have been with me,
progressively upgraded, since W97 was new.

This is not to say that there are no bugs in Word that can bring a template
unstuck. Misuse of the CustomizationContext setting crashes a template
instantly (used to, anyway -- the bug might have been fixed in later
versions); but that's an instant -- rather than eventual -- corruption. You
can do it also by setting up recursive field/bookmark references, but that's
not something you do by accident.

Have you checked your hard disk for surface errors?






"Marceepoo" <Marceepoo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:60959820-C090-4758-AC42-D19755EC8CF2@microsoft.com...
>I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get corrupted, and I
>have
> to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and macros.
> Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program all the macros and forms
> in
> Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to manipulate
> Word's
> built in functioning.
> Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
> Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.
>
> Marc Hankin



A period corruption in Normal.dot by Larry

Larry
Mon Jan 31 14:26:42 CST 2005

I have one type of corruption that occurs every few weeks in my
Normal.dot, which makes the display of Courier font look broken and
changes the appearance of the paragraph mark If it's in Courier). The
flaw is not in the projects contained in Normal.dot, but in the file.
The only way to fix it is to rename a backup of Normal as Normal, and
copy the projects of the corrupt old Normal into the New Normal.

In any case, I have macros that create a back up copy of my Normal.dot
(and of my main Global add-in), which I run every time I add new macros
or make any changes in the template.

Larry



Jezebel wrote:
> I think there must be something else going on with your system. I've
> done a *lot* of Word programming over the past decade: corrupt
> templates is simply not an issue. A few of my templates, with macros,
> have been with me, progressively upgraded, since W97 was new.
>
> This is not to say that there are no bugs in Word that can bring a
> template unstuck. Misuse of the CustomizationContext setting crashes
> a template instantly (used to, anyway -- the bug might have been
> fixed in later versions); but that's an instant -- rather than
> eventual -- corruption. You can do it also by setting up recursive
> field/bookmark references, but that's not something you do by
> accident.
>
> Have you checked your hard disk for surface errors?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Marceepoo" <Marceepoo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:60959820-C090-4758-AC42-D19755EC8CF2@microsoft.com...
> > I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get corrupted,
> > and I have
> > to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and macros.
> > Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program all the macros and
> > forms in
> > Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to
> > manipulate Word's
> > built in functioning.
> > Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
> > Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.
> >
> > Marc Hankin



Re: A period corruption in Normal.dot by Jezebel

Jezebel
Mon Jan 31 14:47:19 CST 2005

Clearly, that's a specific system fault on your machine. It's not an
inherent fault in Word templates. Certainly mysterious: there's nothing in
normal.dot that controls the appearance of a font.





"Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in message
news:uquDZL9BFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>I have one type of corruption that occurs every few weeks in my
> Normal.dot, which makes the display of Courier font look broken and
> changes the appearance of the paragraph mark If it's in Courier). The
> flaw is not in the projects contained in Normal.dot, but in the file.
> The only way to fix it is to rename a backup of Normal as Normal, and
> copy the projects of the corrupt old Normal into the New Normal.
>
> In any case, I have macros that create a back up copy of my Normal.dot
> (and of my main Global add-in), which I run every time I add new macros
> or make any changes in the template.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Jezebel wrote:
>> I think there must be something else going on with your system. I've
>> done a *lot* of Word programming over the past decade: corrupt
>> templates is simply not an issue. A few of my templates, with macros,
>> have been with me, progressively upgraded, since W97 was new.
>>
>> This is not to say that there are no bugs in Word that can bring a
>> template unstuck. Misuse of the CustomizationContext setting crashes
>> a template instantly (used to, anyway -- the bug might have been
>> fixed in later versions); but that's an instant -- rather than
>> eventual -- corruption. You can do it also by setting up recursive
>> field/bookmark references, but that's not something you do by
>> accident.
>>
>> Have you checked your hard disk for surface errors?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Marceepoo" <Marceepoo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:60959820-C090-4758-AC42-D19755EC8CF2@microsoft.com...
>> > I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get corrupted,
>> > and I have
>> > to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and macros.
>> > Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program all the macros and
>> > forms in
>> > Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to
>> > manipulate Word's
>> > built in functioning.
>> > Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
>> > Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.
>> >
>> > Marc Hankin
>
>



Re: A period corruption in Normal.dot by Larry

Larry
Tue Feb 01 00:00:23 CST 2005

I've had this issue for years. Word will be fine, but after a few
weeks, the Courier font will be all screwed up as I described, and the
only way to fix it is to change the Normal template.

Larry



Jezebel wrote:
> Clearly, that's a specific system fault on your machine. It's not an
> inherent fault in Word templates. Certainly mysterious: there's
> nothing in normal.dot that controls the appearance of a font.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in message
> news:uquDZL9BFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I have one type of corruption that occurs every few weeks in my
> > Normal.dot, which makes the display of Courier font look broken and
> > changes the appearance of the paragraph mark If it's in Courier).
> > The flaw is not in the projects contained in Normal.dot, but in the
> > file. The only way to fix it is to rename a backup of Normal as
> > Normal, and copy the projects of the corrupt old Normal into the
> > New Normal.
> >
> > In any case, I have macros that create a back up copy of my
> > Normal.dot (and of my main Global add-in), which I run every time I
> > add new macros or make any changes in the template.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > Jezebel wrote:
> > > I think there must be something else going on with your system.
> > > I've done a *lot* of Word programming over the past decade:
> > > corrupt templates is simply not an issue. A few of my templates,
> > > with macros, have been with me, progressively upgraded, since W97
> > > was new.
> > >
> > > This is not to say that there are no bugs in Word that can bring a
> > > template unstuck. Misuse of the CustomizationContext setting
> > > crashes a template instantly (used to, anyway -- the bug might
> > > have been fixed in later versions); but that's an instant --
> > > rather than eventual -- corruption. You can do it also by setting
> > > up recursive field/bookmark references, but that's not something
> > > you do by accident.
> > >
> > > Have you checked your hard disk for surface errors?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marceepoo" <Marceepoo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:60959820-C090-4758-AC42-D19755EC8CF2@microsoft.com...
> > > > I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get
> > > > corrupted, and I have
> > > > to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and macros.
> > > > Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program all the macros
> > > > and forms in
> > > > Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to
> > > > manipulate Word's
> > > > built in functioning.
> > > > Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
> > > > Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Marc Hankin



Re: A period corruption in Normal.dot by Jezebel

Jezebel
Tue Feb 01 00:10:18 CST 2005

Very odd. Have you reformatted your hard disk during this period? -- if not
conceivably it's a disk error right at the spot where normal.dot and
courier.ttf are located. Have you ever tried reinstalling courier?




"Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in message
news:uCvK9LCCFHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've had this issue for years. Word will be fine, but after a few
> weeks, the Courier font will be all screwed up as I described, and the
> only way to fix it is to change the Normal template.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Jezebel wrote:
>> Clearly, that's a specific system fault on your machine. It's not an
>> inherent fault in Word templates. Certainly mysterious: there's
>> nothing in normal.dot that controls the appearance of a font.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:uquDZL9BFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > I have one type of corruption that occurs every few weeks in my
>> > Normal.dot, which makes the display of Courier font look broken and
>> > changes the appearance of the paragraph mark If it's in Courier).
>> > The flaw is not in the projects contained in Normal.dot, but in the
>> > file. The only way to fix it is to rename a backup of Normal as
>> > Normal, and copy the projects of the corrupt old Normal into the
>> > New Normal.
>> >
>> > In any case, I have macros that create a back up copy of my
>> > Normal.dot (and of my main Global add-in), which I run every time I
>> > add new macros or make any changes in the template.
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jezebel wrote:
>> > > I think there must be something else going on with your system.
>> > > I've done a *lot* of Word programming over the past decade:
>> > > corrupt templates is simply not an issue. A few of my templates,
>> > > with macros, have been with me, progressively upgraded, since W97
>> > > was new.
>> > >
>> > > This is not to say that there are no bugs in Word that can bring a
>> > > template unstuck. Misuse of the CustomizationContext setting
>> > > crashes a template instantly (used to, anyway -- the bug might
>> > > have been fixed in later versions); but that's an instant --
>> > > rather than eventual -- corruption. You can do it also by setting
>> > > up recursive field/bookmark references, but that's not something
>> > > you do by accident.
>> > >
>> > > Have you checked your hard disk for surface errors?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Marceepoo" <Marceepoo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:60959820-C090-4758-AC42-D19755EC8CF2@microsoft.com...
>> > > > I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get
>> > > > corrupted, and I have
>> > > > to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and macros.
>> > > > Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program all the macros
>> > > > and forms in
>> > > > Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to
>> > > > manipulate Word's
>> > > > built in functioning.
>> > > > Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
>> > > > Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.
>> > > >
>> > > > Marc Hankin
>
>



Re: A period corruption in Normal.dot by Larry

Larry
Tue Feb 01 01:15:36 CST 2005

Interesting. There are, ahem, deep issues connected with the display of
Courier that I dealt with years ago but don't remember now. I had a
friend who also had Windows 98 whose Courier wouldn't print correctly at
all and I had to do some research to figure out a way to change some
settings in Windows to get it to work. I will go back to my old notes
on this and think about this. Thanks.



Jezebel wrote:
> Very odd. Have you reformatted your hard disk during this period? --
> if not conceivably it's a disk error right at the spot where
> normal.dot and courier.ttf are located. Have you ever tried
> reinstalling courier?
>
>
>
>
> "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in message
> news:uCvK9LCCFHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I've had this issue for years. Word will be fine, but after a few
> > weeks, the Courier font will be all screwed up as I described, and
> > the only way to fix it is to change the Normal template.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > Jezebel wrote:
> > > Clearly, that's a specific system fault on your machine. It's not
> > > an inherent fault in Word templates. Certainly mysterious: there's
> > > nothing in normal.dot that controls the appearance of a font.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uquDZL9BFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have one type of corruption that occurs every few weeks in my
> > > > Normal.dot, which makes the display of Courier font look broken
> > > > and changes the appearance of the paragraph mark If it's in
> > > > Courier). The flaw is not in the projects contained in
> > > > Normal.dot, but in the file. The only way to fix it is to
> > > > rename a backup of Normal as Normal, and copy the projects of
> > > > the corrupt old Normal into the New Normal.
> > > >
> > > > In any case, I have macros that create a back up copy of my
> > > > Normal.dot (and of my main Global add-in), which I run every
> > > > time I add new macros or make any changes in the template.
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jezebel wrote:
> > > > > I think there must be something else going on with your
> > > > > system. I've done a *lot* of Word programming over the past
> > > > > decade: corrupt templates is simply not an issue. A few of my
> > > > > templates, with macros, have been with me, progressively
> > > > > upgraded, since W97 was new.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is not to say that there are no bugs in Word that can
> > > > > bring a template unstuck. Misuse of the CustomizationContext
> > > > > setting crashes a template instantly (used to, anyway -- the
> > > > > bug might have been fixed in later versions); but that's an
> > > > > instant -- rather than eventual -- corruption. You can do it
> > > > > also by setting up recursive field/bookmark references, but
> > > > > that's not something you do by accident.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you checked your hard disk for surface errors?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marceepoo" <Marceepoo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > > > message
> > > > > news:60959820-C090-4758-AC42-D19755EC8CF2@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > I have found that template (.dot) files eventually get
> > > > > > corrupted, and I have
> > > > > > to create new ones in which I re-create all my forms and
> > > > > > macros. Methinks it'd be a better idea for me to program
> > > > > > all the macros and forms in
> > > > > > Vb.net, and to use (what I think is called) "automation" to
> > > > > > manipulate Word's
> > > > > > built in functioning.
> > > > > > Am I missing something? Or is my perception "right"?
> > > > > > Any thoughts on this would be most welcome and appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc Hankin