What is an empty template

Hi;

If a template is created as empty, does it still have all of the
normal.dot formatting and override normal.dot? If so, on install my
installer needs to make the special template as a copy of the user?s
normal.dot.

thanks - dave

Howard
Thu Jul 08 05:00:41 CDT 2004

Depends on how you create the "empty" template.

If you do a File | New, then save the document as a template, the template
gets all the styles from Normal, but none of the autotext, toolbars or
macros. So nothing in Normal is getting overridden.

In my case, I keep around two copies of the Normal template that would be
created if I were to rename the current Normal template.
I save one copy as NormalClean2003.dot.
I then remove ALL the Autotext from the other copy and save it as
NormalCleanNoAutoText2003.dot.
In each copy, the only styles are Default Paragraph Font, No List, Normal
and Table normal.

I almost always create my new templates using a copy of the
NormalCleanNoAutoText2003.dot file.

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"David Thielen" <david@windward.net> wrote in message
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> Hi;
>
> If a template is created as empty, does it still have all of the
> normal.dot formatting and override normal.dot? If so, on install my
> installer needs to make the special template as a copy of the user's
> normal.dot.
>
> thanks - dave

Charles
Thu Jul 08 10:56:56 CDT 2004

Why are you making a copy of the user's normal.dot?
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Charles Kenyon

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Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
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"David Thielen" <david@windward.net> wrote in message
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> Hi;
>
> If a template is created as empty, does it still have all of the
> normal.dot formatting and override normal.dot? If so, on install my
> installer needs to make the special template as a copy of the user's
> normal.dot.
>
> thanks - dave

David
Thu Jul 08 13:17:28 CDT 2004

What's autotext?

thanks - dave


On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 06:00:41 -0400, "Howard Kaikow"
<kaikow@standards.com> wrote:

>Depends on how you create the "empty" template.
>
>If you do a File | New, then save the document as a template, the template
>gets all the styles from Normal, but none of the autotext, toolbars or
>macros. So nothing in Normal is getting overridden.
>
>In my case, I keep around two copies of the Normal template that would be
>created if I were to rename the current Normal template.
>I save one copy as NormalClean2003.dot.
>I then remove ALL the Autotext from the other copy and save it as
>NormalCleanNoAutoText2003.dot.
>In each copy, the only styles are Default Paragraph Font, No List, Normal
>and Table normal.
>
>I almost always create my new templates using a copy of the
>NormalCleanNoAutoText2003.dot file.

David
Thu Jul 08 13:16:36 CDT 2004

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:56:56 -0500, "Charles Kenyon"
<msnewsgroup@remove.no.spam.addbalance.com> wrote:

>Why are you making a copy of the user's normal.dot?

Maybe there is a better solution to this problem. I have an add-in
that adds a top level menu to Word. However, for most users I figure
that they usually will not need my add-in and at those times I don't
want it using up space on their top menu.

So I figure that I look for a template I give them and if the template
is there, I add my menus. I use nothing in the template, I just use
it's existence as the trigger. But that means I don't want the
template to change anything from normal.

??? - dave

Charles
Thu Jul 08 17:30:03 CDT 2004

What's AutoText? Look in help. Tremendously useful. You can also have an
AutoText list field. http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/AutoTextList.htm

Have the menu on a custom toolbar in your Add-In. Use an AutoExec macro in
your Add-In to test for the presence of your other template. (Not sure why
you are using the separate template if it is not a document template) If the
template is present then make your toolbar visible, if not have it be
invisible.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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"David Thielen" <david@windward.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:56:56 -0500, "Charles Kenyon"
> <msnewsgroup@remove.no.spam.addbalance.com> wrote:
>
> >Why are you making a copy of the user's normal.dot?
>
> Maybe there is a better solution to this problem. I have an add-in
> that adds a top level menu to Word. However, for most users I figure
> that they usually will not need my add-in and at those times I don't
> want it using up space on their top menu.
>
> So I figure that I look for a template I give them and if the template
> is there, I add my menus. I use nothing in the template, I just use
> it's existence as the trigger. But that means I don't want the
> template to change anything from normal.
>
> ??? - dave