JethroUK©
Thu Jun 17 15:20:31 CDT 2004
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23SosOUJVEHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Okay, I guess that's what I'm not understanding, since it is very unusual
to
> have a page that has a header but omits the page number. Usually I have a
> drop folio (page number in the footer) on the first page of a chapter,
with
> headers (with or without page numbers) beginning on the second page.
i think the usual practise is to put page numbering in it's own
header/footer - but unfortunately the students have to do what the
assignment says - thanx anyway
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
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> "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> news:NBkAc.436$qS4.121@newsfe6-gui.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:ea7Tgb$UEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > If all you're trying to do is leave a header/footer blank (as I
gathered
> > > from your electronic whiteout solution),
> >
> > no, that's the problem - the header (or footer) needs other information
> > (including page no - except on page 1)
> >
> > > then I don't see how that's setting
> > > up two headers/footers.
> >
> > they would need to, if they used any of the built-in methods - alas they
> > wont have to if they simply cover up the page no with a drawing object
> >
> >
> > > You just set up one header/footer, then select
> > > "Different first page," which leaves the First Page Header/Footer
blank.
> >
> > like you see, that's not what i need (which all the built-in functions
> also
> > 'assume')
> >
> > > I
> > > personally would find it much more fiddling to create an AutoShape and
> > place
> > > it over the page number (and hope that it stays put).
> >
> > i did it in under 4 seconds (including erasing the borderline)
> >
> > >
> > > Moreover, if the only content of the header/footer will be the page
> > number,
> > > your best bet is to use the Insert | Page Numbers... feature and clear
> the
> > > check box for "Show number on first page."
> >
> > again the same assumptions the features make - but not the case in this
> > situation
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > > Words into Type
> > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
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> > >
> > > "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> > > news:ot0Ac.98$Fb4.97@newsfe5-win...
> > > > i'm not sure about 'unnecessary' (implies it's a long way round),
> since
> > > it's
> > > > quicker/easier than any built-in method to apply - it only has to
work
> > on
> > > my
> > > > printer & i'll check it out - thanx
> > > >
> > > > I've pretty well aired the problems with built-in features -
requires
> 2
> > > > headers/footers setting up (takes twice as long & is open to
> > inconsistent
> > > > headers/footers)
> > > >
> > > > my students have to complete a 3 hour exam in M.S. Word - in the
whole
> 3
> > > > hours they are only allowed 3 typos (accuracy errors) - last thing i
> > need
> > > is
> > > > them to attract an error on this simple issue - i have to minimise
the
> > > > chances of this happening - the built-in features double their time
on
> > > this
> > > > objective & at the same time, double their chance of commiting
> accuracy
> > > > errors - so basically, it's a four-fold no-go - hence i considered
> > adding
> > > a
> > > > condition
> > > >
> > > > like i mentioned previously - had any of the built-in features
simply
> > > added
> > > > a condition to the page numbering it would've been ideal for my
> > > circumstance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > > news:uMwkjE8UEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > This won't work on all printers and is quite unnecessary. What is
> your
> > > > > objection to using the feature Word has intended for this purpose?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > > > > Words into Type
> > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > > > > Word MVP FAQ site:
http://word.mvps.org
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> > > > > all may benefit.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Cs%zc.93$Fb4.4@newsfe5-win...
> > > > > > thanx for all the tips - but i've found a simple solution is to
> > cover
> > > it
> > > > > up
> > > > > > with a drawing object :o)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Margaret Aldis" <Margaret.Aldis@mvps.(SpamStopper)org.invalid>
> > wrote
> > > in
> > > > > > message news:ufXOvneUEHA.2724@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:037zc.424$gM2.281@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "garfield-n-odie" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
> in
> > > > > message
> > > > > > > > news:unEAcbZUEHA.2672@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > Selecting "different first page" does not create a new
> > section.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > then what does it do?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Creates (or rather, gives visibility to) a separate header and
> > > footer
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the first page of the section or doc. Similarly, 'Different
Odd
> > and
> > > > > Even'
> > > > > > > gives visibility to a separate 'even' header and footer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i need to use the simplest way to setup headers/footers, but
> > leave
> > > > out
> > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > numbering on 1 st page - when using built-in methods it
> sections
> > > off
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > 1st
> > > > > > > > page, so any other header/footer information has to be
> repeated
> > in
> > > > 2nd
> > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > (section)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are right that you need to set up the headers and footers
in
> > two
> > > > > > places
> > > > > > > if you use different 1st page - but it is confusing to think
of
> > this
> > > > as
> > > > > > > 'sectioning off' - there is no Word Section Break involved. If
> you
> > > set
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > up in a template it's a once-off copying operation - use
> temporary
> > > > page
> > > > > > > breaks so you can see all the headers and footers while you
work
> > on
> > > > > them,
> > > > > > > then delete the page breaks. Thereafter, those headers and
> footers
> > > > will
> > > > > > > appear/disappear according to the pages you have and the
> > 'different
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > page' page layout switch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
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