Stuart
Mon Apr 18 15:38:13 CDT 2005
Hadn't read before replying to Jay. looks very useful.
Many thanks.
Regards.
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> Login copy can be done through the DOS XCOPY command in a batch file in
> the start menu's startup folder.
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> Charles Kenyon
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> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
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> See also the MVP FAQ:
http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> In Word, both templates and add-ins are *.dot files. The difference is
>> primarily where they're stored (in the User Templates or Workgroup
>> Templates
>> location for templates; in the Startup location for add-ins) and what
>> contents they make available to documents. The article at
>>
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/WhatTemplatesStore.htm gives the
>> specifics.
>>
>> The LAN scheme should work for most purposes, but it may give you
>> occasional
>> problems. The main one is that if any user on the LAN has the template
>> open,
>> you won't be able to replace the template. You'd have to do any
>> fixes/upgrades to the template when no one else is using Word. The other
>> problem appears if you have any users with laptops, who may need access
>> to
>> the template when they aren't connected to the LAN.
>>
>> One solution that has been suggested is a login script that pushes a
>> local
>> copy of the template to each user's PC whenever they log into the server.
>> Don't ask me how to do that, though. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Jay Freedman
>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ:
http://word.mvps.org
>>
>> Stuart wrote:
>>> Many thanks for the suggestions.
>>> Some of these users are of the 'wilfull' variety ....as soon as you
>>> say "Don't do this" they seem to shrug off their apparent apathy, and
>>> become extremely interested in what you're saying <g>, like some
>>> users everywhere I guess. They're already exploring the Macros option
>>> from the menubar, but hopefully the VBE is scaring them off!
>>> If one of them gets hold of a pw cracker......
>>>
>>> I'm using Office2003 SBE over a Lan network, so I think I'll follow
>>> the VBA route (as long as I can resolve those previously mentioned
>>> issues) to best suit the following needs:
>>> 1. to more easily distribute and update via a Lan server
>>> 2. with Admin rights, I could place the template in a
>>> hidden folder on the server (to better stop messing
>>> with the template via Windows Explorer).
>>> 3. place a button on the Word menubar (making it the only
>>> way to open the template?).
>>> Do you approve of this approach? I have further 'master' documents to
>>> similarly deploy.
>>> Further, despite researching, I do not yet understand the differences
>>> between a template, and Word's version of an addin (eg in Excel, I
>>> would simply distribute this as an addin, having set the appropriate
>>> protection, hidden sheets requirement, etc).
>>>
>>> Regards and thanks.
>>>
>>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uvd4U0DRFHA.1096@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Stuart wrote:
>>>>> I have a template with just 2 Sections. The 1st section
>>>>> is protected (and contains fields accessible to the user), the 2nd
>>>>> is not protected.
>>>>>
>>>>> When a user opens the template, they are actually opening a copy of
>>>>> the template (as is true for a standard
>>>>> document). If the user makes changes to the copy and saves it with a
>>>>> different name, then the template is preserved unchanged. If however
>>>>> they make changes but save it with the original template's name,
>>>>> then the template will be overwritten.......I believe this to be
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I stop this without using code, please? (I wish to avoid the
>>>>> macro warning/Certificates issue, if possible).
>>>>>
>>>>> If not, then I'm going to have to use code...perhaps a test for the
>>>>> 'Save name' in the Document_BeforeClose Event
>>>>> (if that event exists in the Word Object model).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Stuart,
>>>>
>>>> Users are *not* supposed to "open" the template. They're supposed to
>>>> place the template file in their Templates folder and use File > New
>>>> to create new
>>>> documents *based* on the template. That avoids the whole messy
>>>> situation, as
>>>> the template is never altered (except in a few situations that are
>>>> best avoided, such as having "Add to template" checked in the Modify
>>>> Style dialog).
>>>>
>>>> The best course is one of education -- if a user opens and alters the
>>>> template, beat him or her about the head and shoulders with stinging
>>>> nettles. :-)
>>>>
>>>> If you can't change that behavior, the next choice is to set the
>>>> template file as read-only or place it in a folder to which ordinary
>>>> users are given
>>>> read access but not write access.
>>>>
>>>> If you need to use macro code, make sure the users all go to Tools >
>>>> Macro >
>>>> Security, click the Trusted Publishers tab, and check the box for
>>>> "Trust all
>>>> installed add-ins and templates". When you put the template
>>>> containing code
>>>> into the Templates folder (which is a trusted location), there won't
>>>> be any
>>>> warning or any requirement for a certificate. The macro can check
>>>> whether ActiveDocument.Type is wdTypeTemplate and, if so, display a
>>>> warning and close the template. See
>>>>
>>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.vba.general/msg/25ea8b70f3a22342
>>>> for a sample macro.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jay Freedman
>>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ:
http://word.mvps.org
>>
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