WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.

Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and command
line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups of my
important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to pre error
status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98, and xp. It works
fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them and excel works fine but
word gives me the "application has encountered an error and must close"
message. I have removed and reinstalled word but I get the same message. I
then removed word, ran disk error check which found a few bad locations, and
then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.

I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the OFF97
article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove office 97.
However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just remove word 97 if
it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use the remove office 97
procedure, run error checks, and see if a reinstall works.

I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97 seems
to work.

Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this question,
redirect me and I will post there.

David

Re: how to completely remove word 97 by garfield-n-odie

garfield-n-odie
Mon Oct 02 16:03:36 CDT 2006

Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word
problems. Before you do that, try working through the
troubleshooting steps at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .

David wrote:
> WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>
> Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
> Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and command
> line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups of my
> important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to pre error
> status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98, and xp. It works
> fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them and excel works fine but
> word gives me the "application has encountered an error and must close"
> message. I have removed and reinstalled word but I get the same message. I
> then removed word, ran disk error check which found a few bad locations, and
> then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
>
> I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the OFF97
> article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove office 97.
> However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just remove word 97 if
> it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use the remove office 97
> procedure, run error checks, and see if a reinstall works.
>
> I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97 seems
> to work.
>
> Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this question,
> redirect me and I will post there.
>
> David
>
>


Re: how to completely remove word 97 by David

David
Mon Oct 02 17:17:10 CDT 2006

Thanks for the link.

Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I select a
file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If instead of
opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word crashes. If I
open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits there fine with a white
screen.

I tried the following steps:
1, does not apply;
2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is c:\...\office\startup.
The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above. When I
try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file locations,
the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not change the default
document file location. It says that folder C is not accessible. If I put
in a folder name, it says that folder is not valid even when I type the
path.
2 b, did not help;
2 c, does not apply;
2 d, does not apply;
3 does not apply;
4 a & b, do not apply;
4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it, close T &
A, and then reopen it.

I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found anything.

What next?

David






"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
> Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>
> David wrote:
>> WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>
>> Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>> Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and command
>> line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups of my
>> important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to pre error
>> status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98, and xp. It
>> works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them and excel works
>> fine but word gives me the "application has encountered an error and must
>> close" message. I have removed and reinstalled word but I get the same
>> message. I then removed word, ran disk error check which found a few bad
>> locations, and then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a
>> registry problem.
>>
>> I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>> OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove office
>> 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just remove word
>> 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use the remove
>> office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a reinstall works.
>>
>> I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>> seems to work.
>>
>> Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>> question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>
>> David
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by garfield-n-odie

garfield-n-odie
Mon Oct 02 17:56:07 CDT 2006

Does the problem persist if you select a different default
printer in Start | Control Panel | Printers?

David wrote:

> Thanks for the link.
>
> Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I select a
> file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If instead of
> opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word crashes. If I
> open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits there fine with a white
> screen.
>
> I tried the following steps:
> 1, does not apply;
> 2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
> 2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
> 2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is c:\...\office\startup.
> The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above. When I
> try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file locations,
> the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not change the default
> document file location. It says that folder C is not accessible. If I put
> in a folder name, it says that folder is not valid even when I type the
> path.
> 2 b, did not help;
> 2 c, does not apply;
> 2 d, does not apply;
> 3 does not apply;
> 4 a & b, do not apply;
> 4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
> document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it, close T &
> A, and then reopen it.
>
> I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found anything.
>
> What next?
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>
>>David wrote:
>>
>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>
>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and command
>>>line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups of my
>>>important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to pre error
>>>status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98, and xp. It
>>>works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them and excel works
>>>fine but word gives me the "application has encountered an error and must
>>>close" message. I have removed and reinstalled word but I get the same
>>>message. I then removed word, ran disk error check which found a few bad
>>>locations, and then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a
>>>registry problem.
>>>
>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove office
>>>97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just remove word
>>>97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use the remove
>>>office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a reinstall works.
>>>
>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>seems to work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>
>>>David
>>
>
>


Re: how to completely remove word 97 by David

David
Mon Oct 02 18:47:37 CDT 2006

I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.

David

"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
> Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>
> David wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the link.
>>
>> Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>> select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>> instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
>> crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits there
>> fine with a white screen.
>>
>> I tried the following steps:
>> 1, does not apply;
>> 2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>> 2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>> 2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is c:\...\office\startup.
>> The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above.
>> When I try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file
>> locations, the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not change
>> the default document file location. It says that folder C is not
>> accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that folder is not valid
>> even when I type the path.
>> 2 b, did not help;
>> 2 c, does not apply;
>> 2 d, does not apply;
>> 3 does not apply;
>> 4 a & b, do not apply;
>> 4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>> document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it, close
>> T & A, and then reopen it.
>>
>> I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found anything.
>>
>> What next?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>
>>>David wrote:
>>>
>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>
>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups of
>>>>my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to pre
>>>>error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98, and xp.
>>>>It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them and excel
>>>>works fine but word gives me the "application has encountered an error
>>>>and must close" message. I have removed and reinstalled word but I get
>>>>the same message. I then removed word, ran disk error check which found
>>>>a few bad locations, and then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might
>>>>be a registry problem.
>>>>
>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use
>>>>the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a reinstall
>>>>works.
>>>>
>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>>seems to work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>
>>>>David
>>>
>>
>>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by garfield-n-odie

garfield-n-odie
Mon Oct 02 23:31:01 CDT 2006

My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with
your normal printer driver. Word relies heavily on information
from the printer driver for page layout and pagination functions,
so having no printer in Word is worse than having a printer.
Don't know what kind of printer you have, but I suggest you
install the driver for a HP Laserjet 4 (it doesn't matter if you
don't actually have one of those to attach to your computer) and
make it the default, and then see if the crashing problem
persists.

David wrote:
> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>
> David
>
> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>
>>David wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>
>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits there
>>>fine with a white screen.
>>>
>>>I tried the following steps:
>>>1, does not apply;
>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is c:\...\office\startup.
>>>The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above.
>>>When I try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file
>>>locations, the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not change
>>>the default document file location. It says that folder C is not
>>>accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that folder is not valid
>>>even when I type the path.
>>>2 b, did not help;
>>>2 c, does not apply;
>>>2 d, does not apply;
>>>3 does not apply;
>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it, close
>>>T & A, and then reopen it.
>>>
>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found anything.
>>>
>>>What next?
>>>
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>>
>>>>David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>>
>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups of
>>>>>my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to pre
>>>>>error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98, and xp.
>>>>>It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them and excel
>>>>>works fine but word gives me the "application has encountered an error
>>>>>and must close" message. I have removed and reinstalled word but I get
>>>>>the same message. I then removed word, ran disk error check which found
>>>>>a few bad locations, and then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might
>>>>>be a registry problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
>>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
>>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use
>>>>>the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a reinstall
>>>>>works.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>>>seems to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>>
>>>>>David
>>>>
>>>
>
>


Re: how to completely remove word 97 by aalaan

aalaan
Tue Oct 03 01:40:08 CDT 2006

On a serious note, I have a page layout problem that may be browser-centric
or Word-centric.

Most web pages print with the right hand cut off, whatever I do with the
printer settings... Any ideas?

"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your normal
> printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the printer
> driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no printer in
> Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of printer you
> have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP Laserjet 4 (it doesn't
> matter if you don't actually have one of those to attach to your computer)
> and make it the default, and then see if the crashing problem persists.
>
> David wrote:
>> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
>> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>>
>> David
>>
>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>>
>>>David wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>
>>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
>>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits there
>>>>fine with a white screen.
>>>>
>>>>I tried the following steps:
>>>>1, does not apply;
>>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is c:\...\office\startup.
>>>>The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above.
>>>>When I try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file
>>>>locations, the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not
>>>>change the default document file location. It says that folder C is not
>>>>accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that folder is not valid
>>>>even when I type the path.
>>>>2 b, did not help;
>>>>2 c, does not apply;
>>>>2 d, does not apply;
>>>>3 does not apply;
>>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it, close
>>>>T & A, and then reopen it.
>>>>
>>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found anything.
>>>>
>>>>What next?
>>>>
>>>>David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>>>
>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups
>>>>>>of my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to
>>>>>>pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98,
>>>>>>and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them
>>>>>>and excel works fine but word gives me the "application has
>>>>>>encountered an error and must close" message. I have removed and
>>>>>>reinstalled word but I get the same message. I then removed word, ran
>>>>>>disk error check which found a few bad locations, and then reinstalled
>>>>>>word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>>>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
>>>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
>>>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use
>>>>>>the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a
>>>>>>reinstall works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>>>>seems to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by David

David
Tue Oct 03 08:54:18 CDT 2006

I installed the HP Laser 4 driver and made it the default printer, rebooted,
and launched word 97. There was no change in the symtoms. Before the BSD,
word 97 and my psc 1315 worked fine.

I am ready to remove office.

David

"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your normal
> printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the printer
> driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no printer in
> Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of printer you
> have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP Laserjet 4 (it doesn't
> matter if you don't actually have one of those to attach to your computer)
> and make it the default, and then see if the crashing problem persists.
>
> David wrote:
>> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
>> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>>
>> David
>>
>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>>
>>>David wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>
>>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
>>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits there
>>>>fine with a white screen.
>>>>
>>>>I tried the following steps:
>>>>1, does not apply;
>>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is c:\...\office\startup.
>>>>The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above.
>>>>When I try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file
>>>>locations, the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not
>>>>change the default document file location. It says that folder C is not
>>>>accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that folder is not valid
>>>>even when I type the path.
>>>>2 b, did not help;
>>>>2 c, does not apply;
>>>>2 d, does not apply;
>>>>3 does not apply;
>>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it, close
>>>>T & A, and then reopen it.
>>>>
>>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found anything.
>>>>
>>>>What next?
>>>>
>>>>David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>>>
>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups
>>>>>>of my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to
>>>>>>pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98,
>>>>>>and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them
>>>>>>and excel works fine but word gives me the "application has
>>>>>>encountered an error and must close" message. I have removed and
>>>>>>reinstalled word but I get the same message. I then removed word, ran
>>>>>>disk error check which found a few bad locations, and then reinstalled
>>>>>>word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>>>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
>>>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
>>>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will use
>>>>>>the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a
>>>>>>reinstall works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>>>>seems to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by TF

TF
Tue Oct 03 09:49:49 CDT 2006

David

What happens if you start in Safe Mode? From Start, Run, type in

WinWord /a

and press enter. Does it still abort?

--
Terry Farrell - Word MVP
http://word.mvps.org/

"David" <aaa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uMcz5Nv5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I installed the HP Laser 4 driver and made it the default printer,
>rebooted, and launched word 97. There was no change in the symtoms.
>Before the BSD, word 97 and my psc 1315 worked fine.
>
> I am ready to remove office.
>
> David
>
> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your normal
>> printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the printer
>> driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no printer in
>> Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of printer you
>> have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP Laserjet 4 (it
>> doesn't matter if you don't actually have one of those to attach to your
>> computer) and make it the default, and then see if the crashing problem
>> persists.
>>
>> David wrote:
>>> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
>>> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>> in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>>>
>>>>David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>>
>>>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>>>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>>>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
>>>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits
>>>>>there fine with a white screen.
>>>>>
>>>>>I tried the following steps:
>>>>>1, does not apply;
>>>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>>>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>>>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is
>>>>>c:\...\office\startup. The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no
>>>>>fix; same as above. When I try to modify the document file location in
>>>>>tools/options/file locations, the folder name window has an undeletable
>>>>>C. I can not change the default document file location. It says that
>>>>>folder C is not accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that
>>>>>folder is not valid even when I type the path.
>>>>>2 b, did not help;
>>>>>2 c, does not apply;
>>>>>2 d, does not apply;
>>>>>3 does not apply;
>>>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>>>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>>>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it,
>>>>>close T & A, and then reopen it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found
>>>>>anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>What next?
>>>>>
>>>>>David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have backups
>>>>>>>of my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup to
>>>>>>>pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98,
>>>>>>>and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them
>>>>>>>and excel works fine but word gives me the "application has
>>>>>>>encountered an error and must close" message. I have removed and
>>>>>>>reinstalled word but I get the same message. I then removed word,
>>>>>>>ran disk error check which found a few bad locations, and then
>>>>>>>reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found the
>>>>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
>>>>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
>>>>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will
>>>>>>>use the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a
>>>>>>>reinstall works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>>>>>seems to work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by David

David
Tue Oct 03 11:46:45 CDT 2006

Terry,

Thanks for the suggestion but I get the same result that I have posted
before.

David

"TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
news:eDiDfsv5GHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> David
>
> What happens if you start in Safe Mode? From Start, Run, type in
>
> WinWord /a
>
> and press enter. Does it still abort?
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - Word MVP
> http://word.mvps.org/
>
> "David" <aaa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uMcz5Nv5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I installed the HP Laser 4 driver and made it the default printer,
>>rebooted, and launched word 97. There was no change in the symtoms.
>>Before the BSD, word 97 and my psc 1315 worked fine.
>>
>> I am ready to remove office.
>>
>> David
>>
>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your
>>> normal printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the
>>> printer driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no
>>> printer in Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of
>>> printer you have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP Laserjet
>>> 4 (it doesn't matter if you don't actually have one of those to attach
>>> to your computer) and make it the default, and then see if the crashing
>>> problem persists.
>>>
>>> David wrote:
>>>> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
>>>> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>> in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>>>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>>>>
>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>>>>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>>>>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
>>>>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits
>>>>>>there fine with a white screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried the following steps:
>>>>>>1, does not apply;
>>>>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>>>>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>>>>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is
>>>>>>c:\...\office\startup. The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but
>>>>>>no fix; same as above. When I try to modify the document file location
>>>>>>in tools/options/file locations, the folder name window has an
>>>>>>undeletable C. I can not change the default document file location.
>>>>>>It says that folder C is not accessible. If I put in a folder name,
>>>>>>it says that folder is not valid even when I type the path.
>>>>>>2 b, did not help;
>>>>>>2 c, does not apply;
>>>>>>2 d, does not apply;
>>>>>>3 does not apply;
>>>>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>>>>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>>>>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it,
>>>>>>close T & A, and then reopen it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found
>>>>>>anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>>wrote in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have
>>>>>>>>backups of my important files and I am trying to restore my computer
>>>>>>>>setup to pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with
>>>>>>>>win 95, 98, and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled
>>>>>>>>both of them and excel works fine but word gives me the "application
>>>>>>>>has encountered an error and must close" message. I have removed
>>>>>>>>and reinstalled word but I get the same message. I then removed
>>>>>>>>word, ran disk error check which found a few bad locations, and then
>>>>>>>>reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found
>>>>>>>>the OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely
>>>>>>>>remove office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like
>>>>>>>>to just remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible,
>>>>>>>>I will use the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see
>>>>>>>>if a reinstall works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
>>>>>>>>seems to work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by Suzanne

Suzanne
Tue Oct 03 12:08:52 CDT 2006

This can be the fault of the page. If a page contains a graphic or text
that won't wrap or a table set to a specific width--anything that is wider
than can be printed--then the whole page wraps to the width of the widest
object, and some will be cut off. I occasionally have this problem with my
pages when I have made a screen shot a little too wide. I check it in Print
Preview in IE, then go back and redo the screen shot till it fits.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"aalaan" <aalaan@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:452205d6@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> On a serious note, I have a page layout problem that may be
browser-centric
> or Word-centric.
>
> Most web pages print with the right hand cut off, whatever I do with the
> printer settings... Any ideas?
>
> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your
normal
> > printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the printer
> > driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no printer in
> > Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of printer you
> > have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP Laserjet 4 (it
doesn't
> > matter if you don't actually have one of those to attach to your
computer)
> > and make it the default, and then see if the crashing problem persists.
> >
> > David wrote:
> >> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I then
> >> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
> >>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
> >>>
> >>>David wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks for the link.
> >>>>
> >>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
> >>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
> >>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced, word
> >>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits
there
> >>>>fine with a white screen.
> >>>>
> >>>>I tried the following steps:
> >>>>1, does not apply;
> >>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
> >>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
> >>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is
c:\...\office\startup.
> >>>>The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above.
> >>>>When I try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file
> >>>>locations, the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not
> >>>>change the default document file location. It says that folder C is
not
> >>>>accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that folder is not
valid
> >>>>even when I type the path.
> >>>>2 b, did not help;
> >>>>2 c, does not apply;
> >>>>2 d, does not apply;
> >>>>3 does not apply;
> >>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
> >>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
> >>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it,
close
> >>>>T & A, and then reopen it.
> >>>>
> >>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found
anything.
> >>>>
> >>>>What next?
> >>>>
> >>>>David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
> >>>>in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
> >>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
> >>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>David wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
> >>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
> >>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have
backups
> >>>>>>of my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup
to
> >>>>>>pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95, 98,
> >>>>>>and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them
> >>>>>>and excel works fine but word gives me the "application has
> >>>>>>encountered an error and must close" message. I have removed and
> >>>>>>reinstalled word but I get the same message. I then removed word,
ran
> >>>>>>disk error check which found a few bad locations, and then
reinstalled
> >>>>>>word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found
the
> >>>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
> >>>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
> >>>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will
use
> >>>>>>the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a
> >>>>>>reinstall works.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word 97
> >>>>>>seems to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
> >>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>David
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


Re: how to completely remove word 97 by aalaan

aalaan
Tue Oct 03 13:22:15 CDT 2006

Thanks Suzanne No, it seems to happen on all types of pages (and I've been
tussling with this problem for several years!)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OfNJv8w5GHA.2288@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> This can be the fault of the page. If a page contains a graphic or text
> that won't wrap or a table set to a specific width--anything that is wider
> than can be printed--then the whole page wraps to the width of the widest
> object, and some will be cut off. I occasionally have this problem with my
> pages when I have made a screen shot a little too wide. I check it in
> Print
> Preview in IE, then go back and redo the screen shot till it fits.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "aalaan" <aalaan@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:452205d6@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> On a serious note, I have a page layout problem that may be
> browser-centric
>> or Word-centric.
>>
>> Most web pages print with the right hand cut off, whatever I do with the
>> printer settings... Any ideas?
>>
>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in
>> message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your
> normal
>> > printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the printer
>> > driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no printer
>> > in
>> > Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of printer
>> > you
>> > have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP Laserjet 4 (it
> doesn't
>> > matter if you don't actually have one of those to attach to your
> computer)
>> > and make it the default, and then see if the crashing problem persists.
>> >
>> > David wrote:
>> >> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I
>> >> then
>> >> reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote
>> >> in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >>
>> >>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>> >>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>> >>>
>> >>>David wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Thanks for the link.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>> >>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>> >>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced,
>> >>>>word
>> >>>>crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it sits
> there
>> >>>>fine with a white screen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I tried the following steps:
>> >>>>1, does not apply;
>> >>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>> >>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>> >>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is
> c:\...\office\startup.
>> >>>>The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but no fix; same as above.
>> >>>>When I try to modify the document file location in tools/options/file
>> >>>>locations, the folder name window has an undeletable C. I can not
>> >>>>change the default document file location. It says that folder C is
> not
>> >>>>accessible. If I put in a folder name, it says that folder is not
> valid
>> >>>>even when I type the path.
>> >>>>2 b, did not help;
>> >>>>2 c, does not apply;
>> >>>>2 d, does not apply;
>> >>>>3 does not apply;
>> >>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>> >>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>> >>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it,
> close
>> >>>>T & A, and then reopen it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found
> anything.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What next?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>David
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote
>> >>>>in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>> >>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>> >>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>David wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>> >>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>> >>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have
> backups
>> >>>>>>of my important files and I am trying to restore my computer setup
> to
>> >>>>>>pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel 97 with win 95,
>> >>>>>>98,
>> >>>>>>and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I reinstalled both of them
>> >>>>>>and excel works fine but word gives me the "application has
>> >>>>>>encountered an error and must close" message. I have removed and
>> >>>>>>reinstalled word but I get the same message. I then removed word,
> ran
>> >>>>>>disk error check which found a few bad locations, and then
> reinstalled
>> >>>>>>word. Same problem. It might be a registry problem.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found
> the
>> >>>>>>OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely remove
>> >>>>>>office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like to just
>> >>>>>>remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible, I will
> use
>> >>>>>>the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and see if a
>> >>>>>>reinstall works.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word
>> >>>>>>97
>> >>>>>>seems to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>> >>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>David
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by TF

TF
Tue Oct 03 14:09:54 CDT 2006

Well I am out of ideas. It certainly sounds like you have a corrupt install
of W97. I suggest that you do a full Scan Disk before removing and
reinstalling Office just to ensure that this isn't the symptom of an
imminent disk failure.

Terry

"David" <aaa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:urg7Euw5GHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Terry,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but I get the same result that I have posted
> before.
>
> David
>
> "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
> news:eDiDfsv5GHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> David
>>
>> What happens if you start in Safe Mode? From Start, Run, type in
>>
>> WinWord /a
>>
>> and press enter. Does it still abort?
>>
>> --
>> Terry Farrell - Word MVP
>> http://word.mvps.org/
>>
>> "David" <aaa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:uMcz5Nv5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I installed the HP Laser 4 driver and made it the default printer,
>>>rebooted, and launched word 97. There was no change in the symtoms.
>>>Before the BSD, word 97 and my psc 1315 worked fine.
>>>
>>> I am ready to remove office.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>> in message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your
>>>> normal printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the
>>>> printer driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no
>>>> printer in Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind of
>>>> printer you have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP
>>>> Laserjet 4 (it doesn't matter if you don't actually have one of those
>>>> to attach to your computer) and make it the default, and then see if
>>>> the crashing problem persists.
>>>>
>>>> David wrote:
>>>>> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I
>>>>> then reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>>>>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Word does not crash as soon as it opens. I can make it happen if I
>>>>>>>select a file to open, open it, and then as I use it, it crashes. If
>>>>>>>instead of opening it, I select the file and then click advanced,
>>>>>>>word crashes. If I open word but do not use it or open a file, it
>>>>>>>sits there fine with a white screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I tried the following steps:
>>>>>>>1, does not apply;
>>>>>>>2 a, word crashes with the /a switch as described above;
>>>>>>>2 a i, renaming normal.dot did not fix it.
>>>>>>>2 a ii, the word startup path in tools/options is
>>>>>>>c:\...\office\startup. The file there is mscreat.dir. I renamed but
>>>>>>>no fix; same as above. When I try to modify the document file
>>>>>>>location in tools/options/file locations, the folder name window has
>>>>>>>an undeletable C. I can not change the default document file
>>>>>>>location. It says that folder C is not accessible. If I put in a
>>>>>>>folder name, it says that folder is not valid even when I type the
>>>>>>>path.
>>>>>>>2 b, did not help;
>>>>>>>2 c, does not apply;
>>>>>>>2 d, does not apply;
>>>>>>>3 does not apply;
>>>>>>>4 a & b, do not apply;
>>>>>>>4 c, there are no add-ins but when I open Templates and Add-Ins, the
>>>>>>>document template window has a N that comes back when I delete it,
>>>>>>>close T & A, and then reopen it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have run AV, anti-trojan, and spyware s/w and have not found
>>>>>>>anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What next?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>wrote in message news:%23xmz6Ym5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't usually help to fix Word problems.
>>>>>>>>Before you do that, try working through the troubleshooting steps at
>>>>>>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ProbsOpeningWord.htm .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>WinXPsp2, word 97, and excel 97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Several days ago I got a BSD with the message "Stop 0x000000ed
>>>>>>>>>Uncountable_Boot_Volume." Rebooting, rebooting in safe mode, and
>>>>>>>>>command line did not help so I used my recovery disk. I have
>>>>>>>>>backups of my important files and I am trying to restore my
>>>>>>>>>computer setup to pre error status. I have used word 97 and excel
>>>>>>>>>97 with win 95, 98, and xp. It works fine for what I do. So I
>>>>>>>>>reinstalled both of them and excel works fine but word gives me the
>>>>>>>>>"application has encountered an error and must close" message. I
>>>>>>>>>have removed and reinstalled word but I get the same message. I
>>>>>>>>>then removed word, ran disk error check which found a few bad
>>>>>>>>>locations, and then reinstalled word. Same problem. It might be a
>>>>>>>>>registry problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I would like to completely remove word 97 and try again. I found
>>>>>>>>>the OFF97 article ID: 254250 that gives the steps to completely
>>>>>>>>>remove office 97. However, excel 97 seems to work and I would like
>>>>>>>>>to just remove word 97 if it is possible. If that is not possible,
>>>>>>>>>I will use the remove office 97 procedure, run error checks, and
>>>>>>>>>see if a reinstall works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I do not know what caused the boot error. Everything except word
>>>>>>>>>97 seems to work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for any help and if this is not the correct group for this
>>>>>>>>>question, redirect me and I will post there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: how to completely remove word 97 by David

David
Tue Oct 03 14:16:36 CDT 2006

That is my plan.

David


"TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
news:edh4z9x5GHA.696@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Well I am out of ideas. It certainly sounds like you have a corrupt
> install of W97. I suggest that you do a full Scan Disk before removing and
> reinstalling Office just to ensure that this isn't the symptom of an
> imminent disk failure.
>
> Terry
>
> "David" <aaa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:urg7Euw5GHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Terry,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion but I get the same result that I have posted
>> before.
>>
>> David
>>
>> "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
>> news:eDiDfsv5GHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> David
>>>
>>> What happens if you start in Safe Mode? From Start, Run, type in
>>>
>>> WinWord /a
>>>
>>> and press enter. Does it still abort?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Terry Farrell - Word MVP
>>> http://word.mvps.org/
>>>
>>> "David" <aaa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uMcz5Nv5GHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I installed the HP Laser 4 driver and made it the default printer,
>>>>rebooted, and launched word 97. There was no change in the symtoms.
>>>>Before the BSD, word 97 and my psc 1315 worked fine.
>>>>
>>>> I am ready to remove office.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>> in message news:ugin7Sq5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> My feeling is that Word is crashing because of a problem with your
>>>>> normal printer driver. Word relies heavily on information from the
>>>>> printer driver for page layout and pagination functions, so having no
>>>>> printer in Word is worse than having a printer. Don't know what kind
>>>>> of printer you have, but I suggest you install the driver for a HP
>>>>> Laserjet 4 (it doesn't matter if you don't actually have one of those
>>>>> to attach to your computer) and make it the default, and then see if
>>>>> the crashing problem persists.
>>>>>
>>>>> David wrote:
>>>>>> I only have one printer so I removed it and word still crashes. I
>>>>>> then reinstalled the printer and the problem is still there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>> wrote in message news:uX07yXn5GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does the problem persist if you select a different default printer in
>>>>>>>Start | Control Panel | Printers?
>>>>>>>