I have more than once encountered paragraph marks in the body of Word docs
(i.e. NOT the last mark in the document) that do not respond to delete or cut
commands. When DELETE is used, the mark is simply selected. The current
example I'm confronting is between two tables...BUT there is also a paragraph
containing text after the first of these two tables. I've tried deleted the
mark at the end of that para, but it, too, is immortal. I was able to copy
the mark, paste it into a fresh document, and delete it there. I cannot
discover any formatting or tools settings that control the marks' behavior.
Has anyone else encountered this, and what did you do about it?

Re: Undeletable para marks in body of Word 2003 document by Klaus

Klaus
Tue Dec 27 23:27:40 CST 2005

"JGHwrites" wrote:
>I have more than once encountered paragraph marks in the body of Word docs
> (i.e. NOT the last mark in the document) that do not respond to delete or
> cut
> commands. When DELETE is used, the mark is simply selected. The current
> example I'm confronting is between two tables...BUT there is also a
> paragraph
> containing text after the first of these two tables. I've tried deleted
> the
> mark at the end of that para, but it, too, is immortal. I was able to copy
> the mark, paste it into a fresh document, and delete it there. I cannot
> discover any formatting or tools settings that control the marks'
> behavior.
> Has anyone else encountered this, and what did you do about it?


Hi,

You can't have a table inline in a paragraph. So Word may try to keep you
from deleting the paragraph mark right in front of a table.
In Word2003, if I select the paragraph mark in front of a table and hit the
Del key, the text of the paragraph moves into the first cell of the table. I
think older versions didn't act like that, and it might be a new bug.

If you try different things (say "Select, Edit > Cut") you should still be
able to get rid of the paragraph mark. OTOH, if the paragraph mark was
between tables, the tables will merge after you delete it. If that isn't
what you want, you could format the paragraph mark as hidden (Format >
Font).

Greetings,
Klaus



Re: Undeletable para marks in body of Word 2003 document by JGHwrites

JGHwrites
Wed Dec 28 07:52:02 CST 2005

Klaus -- thanks for the remarks. Actually, I've tried to select and cut with
no success; and the tables aren't inline, as far as I can tell. I know that
removing the last para between tables will merge them -- at the moment,
though, in this document (which I'm working on, but didn't originally
create...heaven knows what's in the engineer-crafted template!) I have
several 'empty' paragraph marks lodged between tables, where I only want the
one that has text associated with it.

best,
Julian

"Klaus Linke" wrote:

> "JGHwrites" wrote:
> >I have more than once encountered paragraph marks in the body of Word docs
> > (i.e. NOT the last mark in the document) that do not respond to delete or
> > cut
> > commands. When DELETE is used, the mark is simply selected. The current
> > example I'm confronting is between two tables...BUT there is also a
> > paragraph
> > containing text after the first of these two tables. I've tried deleted
> > the
> > mark at the end of that para, but it, too, is immortal. I was able to copy
> > the mark, paste it into a fresh document, and delete it there. I cannot
> > discover any formatting or tools settings that control the marks'
> > behavior.
> > Has anyone else encountered this, and what did you do about it?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> You can't have a table inline in a paragraph. So Word may try to keep you
> from deleting the paragraph mark right in front of a table.
> In Word2003, if I select the paragraph mark in front of a table and hit the
> Del key, the text of the paragraph moves into the first cell of the table. I
> think older versions didn't act like that, and it might be a new bug.
>
> If you try different things (say "Select, Edit > Cut") you should still be
> able to get rid of the paragraph mark. OTOH, if the paragraph mark was
> between tables, the tables will merge after you delete it. If that isn't
> what you want, you could format the paragraph mark as hidden (Format >
> Font).
>
> Greetings,
> Klaus
>
>
>

Re: Undeletable para marks in body of Word 2003 document by JGHwrites

JGHwrites
Wed Dec 28 08:00:02 CST 2005

A follow-up to my reply to Klaus:

I'm at home now, and I've just reproduced this behavior on my other PC, also
running XP Pro and Office 2003. I succeeded in moving the tables to another
section of the document, where they sit comfortably separated by non-immortal
paragraph marks. So now I had a page on which there are six para marks in a
row, none of them deletable by any method I could discover (and I'm fairly
competent in working around Word's odd behaviors, typically). Then I turned
off track changes (which my client expressly wishes me *not* to do)...and
presto, I could delete the bloody things. Well, ok, I've got it solved, but
does this not sound like a teensy bug? Does to me. Anyway, thanks to all (or
both, rather) for your suggestions.

"JGHwrites" wrote:

> Klaus -- thanks for the remarks. Actually, I've tried to select and cut with
> no success; and the tables aren't inline, as far as I can tell. I know that
> removing the last para between tables will merge them -- at the moment,
> though, in this document (which I'm working on, but didn't originally
> create...heaven knows what's in the engineer-crafted template!) I have
> several 'empty' paragraph marks lodged between tables, where I only want the
> one that has text associated with it.
>
> best,
> Julian
>
> "Klaus Linke" wrote:
>
> > "JGHwrites" wrote:
> > >I have more than once encountered paragraph marks in the body of Word docs
> > > (i.e. NOT the last mark in the document) that do not respond to delete or
> > > cut
> > > commands. When DELETE is used, the mark is simply selected. The current
> > > example I'm confronting is between two tables...BUT there is also a
> > > paragraph
> > > containing text after the first of these two tables. I've tried deleted
> > > the
> > > mark at the end of that para, but it, too, is immortal. I was able to copy
> > > the mark, paste it into a fresh document, and delete it there. I cannot
> > > discover any formatting or tools settings that control the marks'
> > > behavior.
> > > Has anyone else encountered this, and what did you do about it?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You can't have a table inline in a paragraph. So Word may try to keep you
> > from deleting the paragraph mark right in front of a table.
> > In Word2003, if I select the paragraph mark in front of a table and hit the
> > Del key, the text of the paragraph moves into the first cell of the table. I
> > think older versions didn't act like that, and it might be a new bug.
> >
> > If you try different things (say "Select, Edit > Cut") you should still be
> > able to get rid of the paragraph mark. OTOH, if the paragraph mark was
> > between tables, the tables will merge after you delete it. If that isn't
> > what you want, you could format the paragraph mark as hidden (Format >
> > Font).
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Klaus
> >
> >
> >

Re: Undeletable para marks in body of Word 2003 document by Suzanne

Suzanne
Wed Dec 28 09:46:38 CST 2005

If you change the view from Final Showing Markup to Final, you should no
longer see the paragraph marks you were unable to delete.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"JGHwrites" <JGHwrites@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18350AF9-CB9D-4AAD-AA29-A8CB5760DE7B@microsoft.com...
> A follow-up to my reply to Klaus:
>
> I'm at home now, and I've just reproduced this behavior on my other PC,
also
> running XP Pro and Office 2003. I succeeded in moving the tables to
another
> section of the document, where they sit comfortably separated by
non-immortal
> paragraph marks. So now I had a page on which there are six para marks in
a
> row, none of them deletable by any method I could discover (and I'm fairly
> competent in working around Word's odd behaviors, typically). Then I
turned
> off track changes (which my client expressly wishes me *not* to do)...and
> presto, I could delete the bloody things. Well, ok, I've got it solved,
but
> does this not sound like a teensy bug? Does to me. Anyway, thanks to all
(or
> both, rather) for your suggestions.
>
> "JGHwrites" wrote:
>
> > Klaus -- thanks for the remarks. Actually, I've tried to select and cut
with
> > no success; and the tables aren't inline, as far as I can tell. I know
that
> > removing the last para between tables will merge them -- at the moment,
> > though, in this document (which I'm working on, but didn't originally
> > create...heaven knows what's in the engineer-crafted template!) I have
> > several 'empty' paragraph marks lodged between tables, where I only want
the
> > one that has text associated with it.
> >
> > best,
> > Julian
> >
> > "Klaus Linke" wrote:
> >
> > > "JGHwrites" wrote:
> > > >I have more than once encountered paragraph marks in the body of Word
docs
> > > > (i.e. NOT the last mark in the document) that do not respond to
delete or
> > > > cut
> > > > commands. When DELETE is used, the mark is simply selected. The
current
> > > > example I'm confronting is between two tables...BUT there is also a
> > > > paragraph
> > > > containing text after the first of these two tables. I've tried
deleted
> > > > the
> > > > mark at the end of that para, but it, too, is immortal. I was able
to copy
> > > > the mark, paste it into a fresh document, and delete it there. I
cannot
> > > > discover any formatting or tools settings that control the marks'
> > > > behavior.
> > > > Has anyone else encountered this, and what did you do about it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > You can't have a table inline in a paragraph. So Word may try to keep
you
> > > from deleting the paragraph mark right in front of a table.
> > > In Word2003, if I select the paragraph mark in front of a table and
hit the
> > > Del key, the text of the paragraph moves into the first cell of the
table. I
> > > think older versions didn't act like that, and it might be a new bug.
> > >
> > > If you try different things (say "Select, Edit > Cut") you should
still be
> > > able to get rid of the paragraph mark. OTOH, if the paragraph mark was
> > > between tables, the tables will merge after you delete it. If that
isn't
> > > what you want, you could format the paragraph mark as hidden (Format >
> > > Font).
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Klaus
> > >
> > >
> > >