I've got a problem and I think I know the source but I wanted to check in and
see first if I'm alone and second if I'm not, what others have done to solve
it.

Here's the problem: My employer just rolled out installation of the 2007
office compatibility pack from Microsoft to our entire user-base (apparently
they intend to upgrade users in waves over the next year to 2007 but for
users now using 2000 and 2003 they wanted to prepare us). I've written a
handful of applications in VBA (some in Excel and some in Access) which have
been useful for a number of people here at work. Since the "upgrade" this
last weekend to the compatibility pack, I've noticed some serious problems
and some less than serious problems. First, in word (a less than serious
problem) I've noticed that the little squiggly lines under misspelled words
are now randomly closer together for certain words in a document... instead
of seeing the vvvvvvvv under the misspelled word I'd see more like a darker
thicker red underline... though not through the document... just under random
words.

Then in excel, I've used the VBA function to suppress screen updates while
the code is running and then re-enable screen updates when the code
completes. This used to work really well. Post-update the system still
works though the menus and buttons across the top of the screen no longer
update when the code finishes running (something it used to do).

Finally, in access, I've noticed that on forms where I have a field for a
hyperlink, if the hyperlink is to a location locally (like ".\filename.doc")
I have no problem but if the link is to a web address (like
"http:\\www.google.com\") the font doesn't map right to the cursor location.
If I place the cursor in front of a given letter in the address and attempt
to change something I invariably select the wrong character (ie not the
character displayed on the screen as selected).

Our network techs had never seen anything like this before. They've offered
to uninstall the compatibility pack on my system... but this wouldn't help
anyone else. They've offered to install 2007 on my system now and not wait
for the rollout later but again, only helps me and not the users of my apps.
Before I capitulate to one of their whack-a-mole solutions I thought I'd
check with the board and see if anyone else has seen anything like this and
if anyone else has a solution to these problems. I'm intending to cross post
in an access.gettingstarted and a excel.programming as well... but if you
have any suggestions of where better than "application.errors" to place this
post, please respond with that info as well. Thanks!

- Ariel

Re: Microsoft Office 2007 Compatibility Pack troubles by Herb

Herb
Thu Dec 06 17:21:33 PST 2007

I've never seen anything like what you're describing, and I find it hard to
believe they're related to the compatibility pack. All the compatibility
pack does, really, is let you open, edit, and save files that use the new x
formats. It shouldn't be having the other effects you're talking about.

But, for starters, why not simply uninstall the compatibility pack and see
if the problems go away?

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:410D1BD0-070E-48BF-AC71-042BC5836F7F@microsoft.com...
> I've got a problem and I think I know the source but I wanted to check in
> and
> see first if I'm alone and second if I'm not, what others have done to
> solve
> it.
>
> Here's the problem: My employer just rolled out installation of the 2007
> office compatibility pack from Microsoft to our entire user-base
> (apparently
> they intend to upgrade users in waves over the next year to 2007 but for
> users now using 2000 and 2003 they wanted to prepare us). I've written a
> handful of applications in VBA (some in Excel and some in Access) which
> have
> been useful for a number of people here at work. Since the "upgrade" this
> last weekend to the compatibility pack, I've noticed some serious problems
> and some less than serious problems. First, in word (a less than serious
> problem) I've noticed that the little squiggly lines under misspelled
> words
> are now randomly closer together for certain words in a document...
> instead
> of seeing the vvvvvvvv under the misspelled word I'd see more like a
> darker
> thicker red underline... though not through the document... just under
> random
> words.
>
> Then in excel, I've used the VBA function to suppress screen updates while
> the code is running and then re-enable screen updates when the code
> completes. This used to work really well. Post-update the system still
> works though the menus and buttons across the top of the screen no longer
> update when the code finishes running (something it used to do).
>
> Finally, in access, I've noticed that on forms where I have a field for a
> hyperlink, if the hyperlink is to a location locally (like
> ".\filename.doc")
> I have no problem but if the link is to a web address (like
> "http:\\www.google.com\") the font doesn't map right to the cursor
> location.
> If I place the cursor in front of a given letter in the address and
> attempt
> to change something I invariably select the wrong character (ie not the
> character displayed on the screen as selected).
>
> Our network techs had never seen anything like this before. They've
> offered
> to uninstall the compatibility pack on my system... but this wouldn't help
> anyone else. They've offered to install 2007 on my system now and not
> wait
> for the rollout later but again, only helps me and not the users of my
> apps.
> Before I capitulate to one of their whack-a-mole solutions I thought I'd
> check with the board and see if anyone else has seen anything like this
> and
> if anyone else has a solution to these problems. I'm intending to cross
> post
> in an access.gettingstarted and a excel.programming as well... but if you
> have any suggestions of where better than "application.errors" to place
> this
> post, please respond with that info as well. Thanks!
>
> - Ariel


Re: Microsoft Office 2007 Compatibility Pack troubles by ArielZusya

ArielZusya
Thu Dec 06 19:30:00 PST 2007

It does seem far fetched. But according to our net techs that is the only
thing that has changed. So... The uninstall is on the agenda for first thing
tomorrow... the trouble is the pack is part of the office-wide staged upgrade
plan. In other words, when they start by moving one group of users to 2007
and the other users are still 2000 or 2003, without the pack there's going to
be troubles. I'm hoping someone has experienced something like this and can
help me diagnose and treat the problem. Thanks!


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

> I've never seen anything like what you're describing, and I find it hard to
> believe they're related to the compatibility pack. All the compatibility
> pack does, really, is let you open, edit, and save files that use the new x
> formats. It shouldn't be having the other effects you're talking about.
>
> But, for starters, why not simply uninstall the compatibility pack and see
> if the problems go away?
>
> --
> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
> Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
> Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
> "ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:410D1BD0-070E-48BF-AC71-042BC5836F7F@microsoft.com...
> > I've got a problem and I think I know the source but I wanted to check in
> > and
> > see first if I'm alone and second if I'm not, what others have done to
> > solve
> > it.
> >
> > Here's the problem: My employer just rolled out installation of the 2007
> > office compatibility pack from Microsoft to our entire user-base
> > (apparently
> > they intend to upgrade users in waves over the next year to 2007 but for
> > users now using 2000 and 2003 they wanted to prepare us). I've written a
> > handful of applications in VBA (some in Excel and some in Access) which
> > have
> > been useful for a number of people here at work. Since the "upgrade" this
> > last weekend to the compatibility pack, I've noticed some serious problems
> > and some less than serious problems. First, in word (a less than serious
> > problem) I've noticed that the little squiggly lines under misspelled
> > words
> > are now randomly closer together for certain words in a document...
> > instead
> > of seeing the vvvvvvvv under the misspelled word I'd see more like a
> > darker
> > thicker red underline... though not through the document... just under
> > random
> > words.
> >
> > Then in excel, I've used the VBA function to suppress screen updates while
> > the code is running and then re-enable screen updates when the code
> > completes. This used to work really well. Post-update the system still
> > works though the menus and buttons across the top of the screen no longer
> > update when the code finishes running (something it used to do).
> >
> > Finally, in access, I've noticed that on forms where I have a field for a
> > hyperlink, if the hyperlink is to a location locally (like
> > ".\filename.doc")
> > I have no problem but if the link is to a web address (like
> > "http:\\www.google.com\") the font doesn't map right to the cursor
> > location.
> > If I place the cursor in front of a given letter in the address and
> > attempt
> > to change something I invariably select the wrong character (ie not the
> > character displayed on the screen as selected).
> >
> > Our network techs had never seen anything like this before. They've
> > offered
> > to uninstall the compatibility pack on my system... but this wouldn't help
> > anyone else. They've offered to install 2007 on my system now and not
> > wait
> > for the rollout later but again, only helps me and not the users of my
> > apps.
> > Before I capitulate to one of their whack-a-mole solutions I thought I'd
> > check with the board and see if anyone else has seen anything like this
> > and
> > if anyone else has a solution to these problems. I'm intending to cross
> > post
> > in an access.gettingstarted and a excel.programming as well... but if you
> > have any suggestions of where better than "application.errors" to place
> > this
> > post, please respond with that info as well. Thanks!
> >
> > - Ariel
>
>

Re: Microsoft Office 2007 Compatibility Pack troubles by Terry

Terry
Fri Dec 07 03:18:51 PST 2007

If I had to guess, I would look at language settings. Did they install the
correct compatibility pack?

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B0F6251-9DB0-4090-B3AB-67303E14BD70@microsoft.com...
> It does seem far fetched. But according to our net techs that is the only
> thing that has changed. So... The uninstall is on the agenda for first
> thing
> tomorrow... the trouble is the pack is part of the office-wide staged
> upgrade
> plan. In other words, when they start by moving one group of users to
> 2007
> and the other users are still 2000 or 2003, without the pack there's going
> to
> be troubles. I'm hoping someone has experienced something like this and
> can
> help me diagnose and treat the problem. Thanks!
>
>
> "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> I've never seen anything like what you're describing, and I find it hard
>> to
>> believe they're related to the compatibility pack. All the compatibility
>> pack does, really, is let you open, edit, and save files that use the new
>> x
>> formats. It shouldn't be having the other effects you're talking about.
>>
>> But, for starters, why not simply uninstall the compatibility pack and
>> see
>> if the problems go away?
>>
>> --
>> Herb Tyson MS MVP
>> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
>> Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
>> Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
>> "ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:410D1BD0-070E-48BF-AC71-042BC5836F7F@microsoft.com...
>> > I've got a problem and I think I know the source but I wanted to check
>> > in
>> > and
>> > see first if I'm alone and second if I'm not, what others have done to
>> > solve
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Here's the problem: My employer just rolled out installation of the
>> > 2007
>> > office compatibility pack from Microsoft to our entire user-base
>> > (apparently
>> > they intend to upgrade users in waves over the next year to 2007 but
>> > for
>> > users now using 2000 and 2003 they wanted to prepare us). I've written
>> > a
>> > handful of applications in VBA (some in Excel and some in Access) which
>> > have
>> > been useful for a number of people here at work. Since the "upgrade"
>> > this
>> > last weekend to the compatibility pack, I've noticed some serious
>> > problems
>> > and some less than serious problems. First, in word (a less than
>> > serious
>> > problem) I've noticed that the little squiggly lines under misspelled
>> > words
>> > are now randomly closer together for certain words in a document...
>> > instead
>> > of seeing the vvvvvvvv under the misspelled word I'd see more like a
>> > darker
>> > thicker red underline... though not through the document... just under
>> > random
>> > words.
>> >
>> > Then in excel, I've used the VBA function to suppress screen updates
>> > while
>> > the code is running and then re-enable screen updates when the code
>> > completes. This used to work really well. Post-update the system
>> > still
>> > works though the menus and buttons across the top of the screen no
>> > longer
>> > update when the code finishes running (something it used to do).
>> >
>> > Finally, in access, I've noticed that on forms where I have a field for
>> > a
>> > hyperlink, if the hyperlink is to a location locally (like
>> > ".\filename.doc")
>> > I have no problem but if the link is to a web address (like
>> > "http:\\www.google.com\") the font doesn't map right to the cursor
>> > location.
>> > If I place the cursor in front of a given letter in the address and
>> > attempt
>> > to change something I invariably select the wrong character (ie not the
>> > character displayed on the screen as selected).
>> >
>> > Our network techs had never seen anything like this before. They've
>> > offered
>> > to uninstall the compatibility pack on my system... but this wouldn't
>> > help
>> > anyone else. They've offered to install 2007 on my system now and not
>> > wait
>> > for the rollout later but again, only helps me and not the users of my
>> > apps.
>> > Before I capitulate to one of their whack-a-mole solutions I thought
>> > I'd
>> > check with the board and see if anyone else has seen anything like this
>> > and
>> > if anyone else has a solution to these problems. I'm intending to
>> > cross
>> > post
>> > in an access.gettingstarted and a excel.programming as well... but if
>> > you
>> > have any suggestions of where better than "application.errors" to place
>> > this
>> > post, please respond with that info as well. Thanks!
>> >
>> > - Ariel
>>
>>


Re: Microsoft Office 2007 Compatibility Pack troubles by ArielZusya

ArielZusya
Fri Dec 07 05:12:02 PST 2007

Interesting. I'll have to check on that this morning. Is there a different
version number or something for the US English version? Thanks for your help!

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

> If I had to guess, I would look at language settings. Did they install the
> correct compatibility pack?
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP
>
> "ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B0F6251-9DB0-4090-B3AB-67303E14BD70@microsoft.com...
> > It does seem far fetched. But according to our net techs that is the only
> > thing that has changed. So... The uninstall is on the agenda for first
> > thing
> > tomorrow... the trouble is the pack is part of the office-wide staged
> > upgrade
> > plan. In other words, when they start by moving one group of users to
> > 2007
> > and the other users are still 2000 or 2003, without the pack there's going
> > to
> > be troubles. I'm hoping someone has experienced something like this and
> > can
> > help me diagnose and treat the problem. Thanks!
> >
> >
> > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> I've never seen anything like what you're describing, and I find it hard
> >> to
> >> believe they're related to the compatibility pack. All the compatibility
> >> pack does, really, is let you open, edit, and save files that use the new
> >> x
> >> formats. It shouldn't be having the other effects you're talking about.
> >>
> >> But, for starters, why not simply uninstall the compatibility pack and
> >> see
> >> if the problems go away?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> >> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
> >> Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
> >> Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
> >> "ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:410D1BD0-070E-48BF-AC71-042BC5836F7F@microsoft.com...
> >> > I've got a problem and I think I know the source but I wanted to check
> >> > in
> >> > and
> >> > see first if I'm alone and second if I'm not, what others have done to
> >> > solve
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > Here's the problem: My employer just rolled out installation of the
> >> > 2007
> >> > office compatibility pack from Microsoft to our entire user-base
> >> > (apparently
> >> > they intend to upgrade users in waves over the next year to 2007 but
> >> > for
> >> > users now using 2000 and 2003 they wanted to prepare us). I've written
> >> > a
> >> > handful of applications in VBA (some in Excel and some in Access) which
> >> > have
> >> > been useful for a number of people here at work. Since the "upgrade"
> >> > this
> >> > last weekend to the compatibility pack, I've noticed some serious
> >> > problems
> >> > and some less than serious problems. First, in word (a less than
> >> > serious
> >> > problem) I've noticed that the little squiggly lines under misspelled
> >> > words
> >> > are now randomly closer together for certain words in a document...
> >> > instead
> >> > of seeing the vvvvvvvv under the misspelled word I'd see more like a
> >> > darker
> >> > thicker red underline... though not through the document... just under
> >> > random
> >> > words.
> >> >
> >> > Then in excel, I've used the VBA function to suppress screen updates
> >> > while
> >> > the code is running and then re-enable screen updates when the code
> >> > completes. This used to work really well. Post-update the system
> >> > still
> >> > works though the menus and buttons across the top of the screen no
> >> > longer
> >> > update when the code finishes running (something it used to do).
> >> >
> >> > Finally, in access, I've noticed that on forms where I have a field for
> >> > a
> >> > hyperlink, if the hyperlink is to a location locally (like
> >> > ".\filename.doc")
> >> > I have no problem but if the link is to a web address (like
> >> > "http:\\www.google.com\") the font doesn't map right to the cursor
> >> > location.
> >> > If I place the cursor in front of a given letter in the address and
> >> > attempt
> >> > to change something I invariably select the wrong character (ie not the
> >> > character displayed on the screen as selected).
> >> >
> >> > Our network techs had never seen anything like this before. They've
> >> > offered
> >> > to uninstall the compatibility pack on my system... but this wouldn't
> >> > help
> >> > anyone else. They've offered to install 2007 on my system now and not
> >> > wait
> >> > for the rollout later but again, only helps me and not the users of my
> >> > apps.
> >> > Before I capitulate to one of their whack-a-mole solutions I thought
> >> > I'd
> >> > check with the board and see if anyone else has seen anything like this
> >> > and
> >> > if anyone else has a solution to these problems. I'm intending to
> >> > cross
> >> > post
> >> > in an access.gettingstarted and a excel.programming as well... but if
> >> > you
> >> > have any suggestions of where better than "application.errors" to place
> >> > this
> >> > post, please respond with that info as well. Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > - Ariel
> >>
> >>
>

Re: Microsoft Office 2007 Compatibility Pack troubles by ArielZusya

ArielZusya
Fri Dec 07 09:29:02 PST 2007

Another clue in this mystery. Looks like the problem is isolated to office
2003 machines... the XP machines don't have this problem. Further
investigation finds that the new Calibri OpenType font is at the heart of the
problem. My understanding is that Calibri is the new default font in 2007.
Before the OCP, office 2003 would look for Calibri where specified by a
document or program, if it didn't find it, it would use some other defaulted
font (arial or times or courier or something). The OCP appears to have added
Calibri and now the system tries to use it. For whatever reason, the
machines with office XP aren't haveing any trouble with the new font while
the office 2003 machines are. Anyone have any thoughts on what to do about
that? Thanks!

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

> If I had to guess, I would look at language settings. Did they install the
> correct compatibility pack?
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP
>
> "ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B0F6251-9DB0-4090-B3AB-67303E14BD70@microsoft.com...
> > It does seem far fetched. But according to our net techs that is the only
> > thing that has changed. So... The uninstall is on the agenda for first
> > thing
> > tomorrow... the trouble is the pack is part of the office-wide staged
> > upgrade
> > plan. In other words, when they start by moving one group of users to
> > 2007
> > and the other users are still 2000 or 2003, without the pack there's going
> > to
> > be troubles. I'm hoping someone has experienced something like this and
> > can
> > help me diagnose and treat the problem. Thanks!
> >
> >
> > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> I've never seen anything like what you're describing, and I find it hard
> >> to
> >> believe they're related to the compatibility pack. All the compatibility
> >> pack does, really, is let you open, edit, and save files that use the new
> >> x
> >> formats. It shouldn't be having the other effects you're talking about.
> >>
> >> But, for starters, why not simply uninstall the compatibility pack and
> >> see
> >> if the problems go away?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> >> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
> >> Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
> >> Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
> >> "ArielZusya" <ArielZusya@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:410D1BD0-070E-48BF-AC71-042BC5836F7F@microsoft.com...
> >> > I've got a problem and I think I know the source but I wanted to check
> >> > in
> >> > and
> >> > see first if I'm alone and second if I'm not, what others have done to
> >> > solve
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > Here's the problem: My employer just rolled out installation of the
> >> > 2007
> >> > office compatibility pack from Microsoft to our entire user-base
> >> > (apparently
> >> > they intend to upgrade users in waves over the next year to 2007 but
> >> > for
> >> > users now using 2000 and 2003 they wanted to prepare us). I've written
> >> > a
> >> > handful of applications in VBA (some in Excel and some in Access) which
> >> > have
> >> > been useful for a number of people here at work. Since the "upgrade"
> >> > this
> >> > last weekend to the compatibility pack, I've noticed some serious
> >> > problems
> >> > and some less than serious problems. First, in word (a less than
> >> > serious
> >> > problem) I've noticed that the little squiggly lines under misspelled
> >> > words
> >> > are now randomly closer together for certain words in a document...
> >> > instead
> >> > of seeing the vvvvvvvv under the misspelled word I'd see more like a
> >> > darker
> >> > thicker red underline... though not through the document... just under
> >> > random
> >> > words.
> >> >
> >> > Then in excel, I've used the VBA function to suppress screen updates
> >> > while
> >> > the code is running and then re-enable screen updates when the code
> >> > completes. This used to work really well. Post-update the system
> >> > still
> >> > works though the menus and buttons across the top of the screen no
> >> > longer
> >> > update when the code finishes running (something it used to do).
> >> >
> >> > Finally, in access, I've noticed that on forms where I have a field for
> >> > a
> >> > hyperlink, if the hyperlink is to a location locally (like
> >> > ".\filename.doc")
> >> > I have no problem but if the link is to a web address (like
> >> > "http:\\www.google.com\") the font doesn't map right to the cursor
> >> > location.
> >> > If I place the cursor in front of a given letter in the address and
> >> > attempt
> >> > to change something I invariably select the wrong character (ie not the
> >> > character displayed on the screen as selected).
> >> >
> >> > Our network techs had never seen anything like this before. They've
> >> > offered
> >> > to uninstall the compatibility pack on my system... but this wouldn't
> >> > help
> >> > anyone else. They've offered to install 2007 on my system now and not
> >> > wait
> >> > for the rollout later but again, only helps me and not the users of my
> >> > apps.
> >> > Before I capitulate to one of their whack-a-mole solutions I thought
> >> > I'd
> >> > check with the board and see if anyone else has seen anything like this
> >> > and
> >> > if anyone else has a solution to these problems. I'm intending to
> >> > cross
> >> > post
> >> > in an access.gettingstarted and a excel.programming as well... but if
> >> > you
> >> > have any suggestions of where better than "application.errors" to place
> >> > this
> >> > post, please respond with that info as well. Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > - Ariel
> >>
> >>
>