xylophone
Sat Jul 05 00:06:20 PDT 2008
Thanks. This has been confirmed in the course of a question I raised with
the MS dedicated SP3 assistance service
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eUG%23dsi3IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you started out with WinXP SP1, install then uninstall SP3, it's not
> possible to have SP2 installed, period.
>
> xylophone wrote:
>> Bear,
>>
>> Perhaps. One final question (?), how do I tell if I have SP2 installed -
>> not in Add/Remove - so not installed?
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23uSDm0a3IHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Why do you [think] the Sony program should be supported in SP3, too
>>>
>>> Because very little in SP3 is new.
>>>
>>> List of fixes that are included in WinXP SP3
>>>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480
>>>
>>> If you started out with WinXP SP1 and then installed SP3, uninstalling
>>> SP3
>>> would return the machine to WinXP SP1.
>>>
>>> If you started out with WinXP SP1, installed SP2 (which isn't
>>> necessary),
>>> and then installed SP3, uninstalling SP3 would return the machine to
>>> WinXP
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> [It might be time to get a new camcorder, ya know?]
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>>
>>> xylophone wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Bear, for hanging in here. I find your comment most
>>>> interesting
>>>> as
>>>> it reflects, if it does, my own view that things SP2 should be
>>>> compatible
>>>> with SP3. In my case, I say that because I understand SP3 is no more
>>>> or
>>>> less, as it were, than a collection of updates, and on that basis quite
>>>> different from SP2.
>>>>
>>>> Question 1. Why do you the Sony program should be supported in SP3,
>>>> too
>>>>
>>>> Question 2 As I reinstalled form SP1 to SP3, I understood you to say
>>>> earlier in this thread that I missed out on SP2, in that if I
>>>> uninstalled
>>>> SP3 I would revert to SP1. Is that correct? This is important because
>>>> if
>>>> so, the question whether my Sony program (SP2) might be compatible with
>>>> SP3
>>>> is academic, since I still couldn't use it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23EVMmdW3IHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Of the Sony application was not supported in WinXP SP1 but it is in
>>>>> WinXP
>>>>> SP2, I should think (but certainly cannot confirm) that it should be
>>>>> supported in SP3, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> xylophone wrote:
>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. I think Bear has answered the technical question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may interest you, and Bear, that the reason for the Windows
>>>>>> reinstall
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> that I installed
>>>>>> the Sony program, stupidly, without checking it was SP1. It wasn't.
>>>>>> I excuse myself to a large extent in that the program should have
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> I tied to run it, beware, this is an SP2 program (you are on SP1).
>>>>>> Everyone
>>>>>> who knows about these things agrees with me this is what should have
>>>>>> happened, it didn't, and it has been suggested to me strongly that
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> bad program design on Sony's part. After the program installed, my
>>>>>> SP1
>>>>>> machine became unbelievably slow, so much so, Dell confirmed a
>>>>>> reinstall
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Windows was necessary. I did that, and in the trauma of that (I am
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> nervous in such situations), I just went for SP3, on the basis that
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> wanted to get up to date, I might as well get fully up to date. If
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Sony
>>>>>> program is no good for SP3, on which the retailer willl advise me, I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> take stuff off the camcorder onto my PC. At least, that is how I see
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> of now. Perhaps there is another program Sony say I could use to do
>>>>>> so.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> only bought the thing a few weeks ago, so my best bet might well be
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> return the item to the retailer and get my money back, if the
>>>>>> retailer
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> play ball. What a complicated web we sometimes weave - all because I
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> read the install instructions 100% - the OS bit was on another page
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> guide.!! An object lesson for us all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you that
>>>>>> "JS" <@> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23Ei3MiS3IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Uninstall SP3, Install SP2
>>>>>>> (since you implied you went straight from SP1 to SP3).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Install Sony camcorder program, verify Sony program works OK,
>>>>>>> Then install SP3 and again verify Sony program still works OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "xylophone" <m-rharrison@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eZon2PS3IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> My Dell XP was on SP1. Had to reinstall Windows. Chose to do so
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> SP3.
>>>>>>>> Used Dell reinstall CD and
>>>>>>>> thereafter Microsoft/Windows Update. Works perfectly. Now, may
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> consider
>>>>>>>> uninstalling SP3 in order to install a Sony camcorder program which
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> SP2. Enquiring via retailer if program OK with SP3 (Sony website
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> mention SP3, at all: why not?). Meantime, I see in Add/Remove I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> uninstall SP3 there. My question is - if I do so, and bearing in
>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> reinstalled Windows to SP3, will the uninstall take me back to SP2?
>>>>>>>> Might there be problems there? The reinstall was traumatic, and I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> want to reinstall Windows again if I can possibly avoid it.
>>>>>>>> Advice/comments?
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