SP3 "resume from hibernation" problem

A couple of days ago my 2nd PC, after "resume from hibernation" just sat at
the black screen - the one with "Press F8 to delete restoration data",
(after the long progress bar had travelled from left to right at the bottom
of the screen), and I had to hold the power button in and force it to switch
off.
Same thing now on my main PC today !

...so it looks to me like hibernation is now, no longer working properly
after SP3 :-) ...or should that be :-(

...I wonder if there'll be a patch soon, to fix what was not broken, and got
broken with SP3 ?

regards, Richard

XP Home ed. on both PC's (legit licenses on both btw)
1st PC Asrock Conroe 865PE/D935/1gb
2nd PC Asrock Nforce4/AM2 3800/1gb)

RJK
Sat May 10 01:33:32 PDT 2008

...oops, just Google'd it, looks like there's lots of talk on it !
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2795714&SiteID=17

regards, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O3TkSgnsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>A couple of days ago my 2nd PC, after "resume from hibernation" just sat at
>the black screen - the one with "Press F8 to delete restoration data",
>(after the long progress bar had travelled from left to right at the
>bottom of the screen), and I had to hold the power button in and force it
>to switch off.
> Same thing now on my main PC today !
>
> ...so it looks to me like hibernation is now, no longer working properly
> after SP3 :-) ...or should that be :-(
>
> ...I wonder if there'll be a patch soon, to fix what was not broken, and
> got broken with SP3 ?
>
> regards, Richard
>
> XP Home ed. on both PC's (legit licenses on both btw)
> 1st PC Asrock Conroe 865PE/D935/1gb
> 2nd PC Asrock Nforce4/AM2 3800/1gb)
>

RJK
Sat May 10 01:37:43 PDT 2008

mmm, I imaged hd's (d/m/y) 1/5/08 before applying SP3, and 7/5/08 after SP3
...I wonder what else is "wrong" in SP3, ... tempted to drop back to the
1st - dumping SP3 ?

regards, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23CKmKinsIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> ...oops, just Google'd it, looks like there's lots of talk on it !
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2795714&SiteID=17
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O3TkSgnsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>A couple of days ago my 2nd PC, after "resume from hibernation" just sat
>>at the black screen - the one with "Press F8 to delete restoration data",
>>(after the long progress bar had travelled from left to right at the
>>bottom of the screen), and I had to hold the power button in and force it
>>to switch off.
>> Same thing now on my main PC today !
>>
>> ...so it looks to me like hibernation is now, no longer working properly
>> after SP3 :-) ...or should that be :-(
>>
>> ...I wonder if there'll be a patch soon, to fix what was not broken, and
>> got broken with SP3 ?
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>> XP Home ed. on both PC's (legit licenses on both btw)
>> 1st PC Asrock Conroe 865PE/D935/1gb
>> 2nd PC Asrock Nforce4/AM2 3800/1gb)
>>
>
>

RJK
Sat May 10 04:27:20 PDT 2008

oops !
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/

regards, Richard

RJK
Sat May 10 04:35:42 PDT 2008

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
After scrutinizing this page, it seems that I've got to wait for a "post"
SP3 update, of telephone MS !!!
...I wonder ehy they don't just slap it on the page so that I can collect it
!

regards, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%237fISDpsIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> oops !
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>
> regards, Richard
>

RJK
Sat May 10 04:39:53 PDT 2008

...mmmm then there's this one !
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;887173
...what a mess !!

regards, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u9Tg9HpsIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
> After scrutinizing this page, it seems that I've got to wait for a "post"
> SP3 update, of telephone MS !!!
> ...I wonder ehy they don't just slap it on the page so that I can collect
> it !
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%237fISDpsIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> oops !
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>
>

RJK
Sat May 10 04:55:08 PDT 2008

Right, - that's it ! SP3 is coming out on my AMD single core, and Intel twin
core PC's,
...all will no longer resume from hibernation. I only use it Resume form
hibernation once in a while during the day, and use full shut-down at end of
day but, it makes one wonder what other disasters are included and waiting
to surface in SP3 !?

regards, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eVOtSKpsIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> ...mmmm then there's this one !
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;887173
> ...what a mess !!
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u9Tg9HpsIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>> After scrutinizing this page, it seems that I've got to wait for a "post"
>> SP3 update, of telephone MS !!!
>> ...I wonder ehy they don't just slap it on the page so that I can collect
>> it !
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%237fISDpsIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> oops !
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>>>
>>> regards, Richard
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

RJK
Sat May 10 05:38:30 PDT 2008

After uninstalling SP3 from my XP Home nforce4/AMD3800 single core, and
rebooting it, it sat there for a few minutes while I was working on my main
Intel PC and then, without being touched - AMD machine hibernated all by
itself ! ...nothing was changed or set in AMD's screen saver | power saving
settings ...which were set not to do anything for about half an hour. What
a mess !

I've seen talk about fiddling with S1 and S3 settings, and "make sure that
ACPI is set ver. 3.0 in BIOS," etv.
I don't want to gain DEGREE class knowledge in ACPI power settings, I just
want security updates via Windows updates to go in without CREATING PROBLEMS
!!!!!!
....not happy with MS now !!

regars, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlAU0SpsIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Right, - that's it ! SP3 is coming out on my AMD single core, and Intel
> twin core PC's,
> ...all will no longer resume from hibernation. I only use it Resume form
> hibernation once in a while during the day, and use full shut-down at end
> of day but, it makes one wonder what other disasters are included and
> waiting to surface in SP3 !?
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eVOtSKpsIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> ...mmmm then there's this one !
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;887173
>> ...what a mess !!
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u9Tg9HpsIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>>> After scrutinizing this page, it seems that I've got to wait for a
>>> "post" SP3 update, of telephone MS !!!
>>> ...I wonder ehy they don't just slap it on the page so that I can
>>> collect it !
>>>
>>> regards, Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%237fISDpsIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> oops !
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>>>>
>>>> regards, Richard
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

John
Sat May 10 07:29:07 PDT 2008

RJK wrote:
> A couple of days ago my 2nd PC, after "resume from hibernation" just sat at
> the black screen - the one with "Press F8 to delete restoration data",
> (after the long progress bar had travelled from left to right at the bottom
> of the screen), and I had to hold the power button in and force it to switch
> off.
> Same thing now on my main PC today !
>
> ...so it looks to me like hibernation is now, no longer working properly
> after SP3 :-) ...or should that be :-(
>
> ...I wonder if there'll be a patch soon, to fix what was not broken, and got
> broken with SP3 ?
>
> regards, Richard
>
> XP Home ed. on both PC's (legit licenses on both btw)
> 1st PC Asrock Conroe 865PE/D935/1gb
> 2nd PC Asrock Nforce4/AM2 3800/1gb)
>
>

For future reference, the idea is to shun MS's updates for some period
after release. The more major the update and the more "improvements" they
claim the longer you need to avoid it. A service pack probably needs at
least a month to fester in public before you even think about trying it.
MS's alpha and beta testing, even if you assume good intentions on their
part, have a long track record of missing relatively major problems.

John McGaw
http://johnmcgaw.com

PA
Sat May 10 09:43:38 PDT 2008

[Richard, you're talking to yourself again! <eg>]

<QP>
To resolve this problem, submit a request to Microsoft Online Customer
Services to obtain the hotfix. To submit an online request to obtain the
hotfix, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=6294451
</QP>

Did you visit the website and submit an email request for the hotfix?
--
~PAÞ


RJK wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
> After scrutinizing this page, it seems that I've got to wait for a "post"
> SP3 update, of telephone MS !!!
> ...I wonder ehy they don't just slap it on the page so that I can collect
> it
> !
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%237fISDpsIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> oops !
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951126/
>>
>> regards, Richard

RJK
Sun May 11 12:34:13 PDT 2008

...well, for me at least.
After reading through:-
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2934953&SiteID=17
...and all the talk about PSU's and ACPI versions ...

I took a peek into my main PC's bios ACPI screen and enabled STR (suspend to
RAM) function | rebooted | hibernated | hit [Esc] | ..hey Presto ! no "hang"
after the big "resume form hibernation" progress bar completes. ...(that's
my Intel PC).

...same on the PC to my left (AMD), enabled STR in ACPI bios screen | that
one also now does not hang on "resume from hibernation."

I'd always guessed that the STR (suspend to RAM) was something to do with
bios based power saving settings, and that this bios option was nothing to
do with Windows hibernation. Considering that hibernation always previously
worked in my PC's with STR bios option disabled on all of them, I'm not sure
what it's all about - ...and I don't feel up to wading through ACPI spec's !

...So ! was SP3 to blame, has something to do with ACPI in SP3 changed ?
...or was corrected ? ...or improved ?

...anyhooo, enabling "STR" bios option did it for me :-)

regards, Richard


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O3TkSgnsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>A couple of days ago my 2nd PC, after "resume from hibernation" just sat at
>the black screen - the one with "Press F8 to delete restoration data",
>(after the long progress bar had travelled from left to right at the
>bottom of the screen), and I had to hold the power button in and force it
>to switch off.
> Same thing now on my main PC today !
>
> ...so it looks to me like hibernation is now, no longer working properly
> after SP3 :-) ...or should that be :-(
>
> ...I wonder if there'll be a patch soon, to fix what was not broken, and
> got broken with SP3 ?
>
> regards, Richard
>
> XP Home ed. on both PC's (legit licenses on both btw)
> 1st PC Asrock Conroe 865PE/D935/1gb
> 2nd PC Asrock Nforce4/AM2 3800/1gb)
>

RJK
Sun May 11 12:36:02 PDT 2008


"RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eQoM$35sIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ...well, for me at least.
> After reading through:-
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2934953&SiteID=17
> ...and all the talk about PSU's and ACPI versions ...
>
> I took a peek into my main PC's bios ACPI screen and enabled STR (suspend
> to RAM) function | rebooted | hibernated | hit [Esc] | ..hey Presto ! no
> "hang" after the big "resume from hibernation" progress bar completes.
> ...(that's my Intel PC).
>
> ...same on the PC to my left (AMD), enabled STR in ACPI bios screen | that
> one also now does not hang on "resume from hibernation."
>
> I'd always guessed that the STR (suspend to RAM) was something to do with
> bios based power saving settings, and that this bios option was nothing to
> do with Windows hibernation. Considering that hibernation always
> previously worked in my PC's with STR bios option disabled on all of them,
> I'm not sure what it's all about - ...and I don't feel up to wading
> through ACPI spec's !
>
> ...So ! was SP3 to blame, has something to do with ACPI in SP3 changed ?
> ...or was corrected ? ...or improved ?
>
> ...anyhooo, enabling "STR" bios option did it for me :-)
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O3TkSgnsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>A couple of days ago my 2nd PC, after "resume from hibernation" just sat
>>at the black screen - the one with "Press F8 to delete restoration data",
>>(after the long progress bar had travelled from left to right at the
>>bottom of the screen), and I had to hold the power button in and force it
>>to switch off.
>> Same thing now on my main PC today !
>>
>> ...so it looks to me like hibernation is now, no longer working properly
>> after SP3 :-) ...or should that be :-(
>>
>> ...I wonder if there'll be a patch soon, to fix what was not broken, and
>> got broken with SP3 ?
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>> XP Home ed. on both PC's (legit licenses on both btw)
>> 1st PC Asrock Conroe 865PE/D935/1gb
>> 2nd PC Asrock Nforce4/AM2 3800/1gb)
>>
>
>

RJK
Sun May 11 12:37:40 PDT 2008

...one day I'll work out how to use OE NG threads !

...well, for me at least.
After reading through:-
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2934953&SiteID=17
...and all the talk about PSU's and ACPI versions ...

I took a peek into my main PC's bios ACPI screen and enabled STR (suspend to
RAM) function | rebooted | hibernated | hit [Esc] | ..hey Presto ! no "hang"
after the big "resume from hibernation" progress bar completes. ...(that's
my Intel PC).

...same on the PC to my left (AMD), enabled STR in ACPI bios screen | that
one also now does not hang on "resume from hibernation."

I'd always guessed that the STR (suspend to RAM) was something to do with
bios based power saving settings, and that this bios option was nothing to
do with Windows hibernation. Considering that hibernation always previously
worked in my PC's with STR bios option disabled on all of them, I'm not sure
what it's all about - ...and I don't feel up to wading through ACPI spec's !

...So ! was SP3 to blame, has something to do with ACPI in SP3 changed ?
...or was corrected ? ...or improved ?

...anyhooo, enabling "STR" bios option did it for me :-)

regards, Richard

PA
Sun May 11 15:22:21 PDT 2008

Doubtful. Can you work out how to stop talking to yourself?

RJK wrote:
> ...one day I'll work out how to use OE NG threads !

Colin
Sun May 11 16:56:31 PDT 2008

Now, now. At least he has kept his sense of humor about him. ;)

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uTFwAa7sIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Doubtful. Can you work out how to stop talking to yourself?
>
> RJK wrote:
>> ...one day I'll work out how to use OE NG threads !