Hi there,

Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I would
update all my computers.

All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the way:-)
where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express Preferences' or
something similar.

Why would SP3 want to do that?

I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else and I
don't know what else may have changed.

So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly what
exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?

--
Thanks & regards,
-=pp=-

Re: SP3 changing OE Newsreader settings? by Alias

Alias
Sun Aug 31 05:44:59 PDT 2008

Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I would
> update all my computers.
>
> All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the way:-)
> where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express Preferences' or
> something similar.
>
> Why would SP3 want to do that?
>
> I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else and I
> don't know what else may have changed.
>
> So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly what
> exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?
>

How many times did you reboot after installing SP3? You should have
rebooted twice before doing anything else. You should have also disabled
your anti virus and malware apps.

Alias

Re: SP3 changing OE Newsreader settings? by Pheasant

Pheasant
Mon Sep 01 00:33:40 PDT 2008

Thanks for the reply Alias...however helpful it might be! ;^)

I never noticed it saying that I had to reboot twice before I done anything
else?

I've been a Windows user for many years so I gave up counting how many times
it reboots in any case...with XP they said it wouldn't have to reboot so
much especially when installing software but it seems that it still
excessively reboots.

As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing Avast!
*after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.

I kept my old W2K running parallel to this one for ages while I meticulously
copied configs/settings for all the programs I use to make sure I didn't
miss anything...

Aahh...well...I should be used to it by now but it is still annoying...

Can't even see Send/Receive to put back on my toolbar...:-(

Not sure whet else is FUBAR

Thanks & regards,
-=pp=-


"Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:g9e3ob$lkd$2@aioe.org...
> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I would
>> update all my computers.
>>
>> All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the
>> way:-) where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express
>> Preferences' or something similar.
>>
>> Why would SP3 want to do that?
>>
>> I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else and
>> I don't know what else may have changed.
>>
>> So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly
>> what exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?
>>
>
> How many times did you reboot after installing SP3? You should have
> rebooted twice before doing anything else. You should have also disabled
> your anti virus and malware apps.
>
> Alias




Re: SP3 changing OE Newsreader settings? by Alias

Alias
Mon Sep 01 04:19:58 PDT 2008

Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Alias...however helpful it might be! ;^)
>
> I never noticed it saying that I had to reboot twice before I done anything
> else?
>
> I've been a Windows user for many years so I gave up counting how many times
> it reboots in any case...with XP they said it wouldn't have to reboot so
> much especially when installing software but it seems that it still
> excessively reboots.
>
> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing Avast!
> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.
>
> I kept my old W2K running parallel to this one for ages while I meticulously
> copied configs/settings for all the programs I use to make sure I didn't
> miss anything...
>
> Aahh...well...I should be used to it by now but it is still annoying...
>
> Can't even see Send/Receive to put back on my toolbar...:-(
>
> Not sure whet else is FUBAR
>
> Thanks & regards,
> -=pp=-

I would remove SP3 if I were you. The best result is to install SP after
a fresh clean install of XP.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g9e3ob$lkd$2@aioe.org...
>> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I would
>>> update all my computers.
>>>
>>> All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the
>>> way:-) where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express
>>> Preferences' or something similar.
>>>
>>> Why would SP3 want to do that?
>>>
>>> I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else and
>>> I don't know what else may have changed.
>>>
>>> So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly
>>> what exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?
>>>
>> How many times did you reboot after installing SP3? You should have
>> rebooted twice before doing anything else. You should have also disabled
>> your anti virus and malware apps.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
>

Re: SP3 changing OE Newsreader settings? by PA

PA
Mon Sep 01 08:36:45 PDT 2008

> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
> Avast!
> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.

1. Was NAV running in the background when you installed SP3?

2. Have you downloaded & run the Norton Removal Tool yet? =>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Alias...however helpful it might be! ;^)
>
> I never noticed it saying that I had to reboot twice before I done
> anything
> else?
>
> I've been a Windows user for many years so I gave up counting how many
> times
> it reboots in any case...with XP they said it wouldn't have to reboot so
> much especially when installing software but it seems that it still
> excessively reboots.
>
> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
> Avast!
> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.
>
> I kept my old W2K running parallel to this one for ages while I
> meticulously
> copied configs/settings for all the programs I use to make sure I didn't
> miss anything...
>
> Aahh...well...I should be used to it by now but it is still annoying...
>
> Can't even see Send/Receive to put back on my toolbar...:-(
>
> Not sure whet else is FUBAR
>
> Thanks & regards,
> -=pp=-
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g9e3ob$lkd$2@aioe.org...
>> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I would
>>> update all my computers.
>>>
>>> All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the
>>> way:-) where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express
>>> Preferences' or something similar.
>>>
>>> Why would SP3 want to do that?
>>>
>>> I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else and
>>> I don't know what else may have changed.
>>>
>>> So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly
>>> what exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?
>>>
>>
>> How many times did you reboot after installing SP3? You should have
>> rebooted twice before doing anything else. You should have also disabled
>> your anti virus and malware apps.
>>
>> Alias


Re: SP3 changing OE Newsreader settings? by Pheasant

Pheasant
Mon Sep 01 09:14:08 PDT 2008

Thanks for the reply PA Bear,

I doubt it could have been running in the background...I uninstalled it
before I even went near SP3! ;^)

After uninstalling NAV I noticed a new menu entry for LiveUpdate
Notification or something.

Couldn't uninstall that because it told me a program depended on it -
strange since it appeared *after* NAV was uninstalled.

I also wanted to uninstall LiveUpdate itself but at that point I still had
Ghost installed but after the cheek of Symantec putting something on my
system after I removed one of their products I uninstalled everything
Norton/Symantec/Live-whatever...on all 8 machines here and I am going to
take my last Symantec purchase back for a refund...there...I feel much
better now! ;^)

Then I ran the Norton Removal Tool & rebooted.

Only then did I install SP3

First time I had uninstalled NAV before a Service Pack and the only time I
have had trouble...

No big deal...I was just curious what else may have been changed as I used
to clickon a Send/Receive button on the toolbar but it is ghosted and can't
be used now...:-(

Kind regards,
-=pp=-


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23XzEUjEDJHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
>> Avast!
>> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.
>
> 1. Was NAV running in the background when you installed SP3?
>
> 2. Have you downloaded & run the Norton Removal Tool yet? =>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply Alias...however helpful it might be! ;^)
>>
>> I never noticed it saying that I had to reboot twice before I done
>> anything
>> else?
>>
>> I've been a Windows user for many years so I gave up counting how many
>> times
>> it reboots in any case...with XP they said it wouldn't have to reboot so
>> much especially when installing software but it seems that it still
>> excessively reboots.
>>
>> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
>> Avast!
>> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.
>>
>> I kept my old W2K running parallel to this one for ages while I
>> meticulously
>> copied configs/settings for all the programs I use to make sure I didn't
>> miss anything...
>>
>> Aahh...well...I should be used to it by now but it is still annoying...
>>
>> Can't even see Send/Receive to put back on my toolbar...:-(
>>
>> Not sure whet else is FUBAR
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>> -=pp=-
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:g9e3ob$lkd$2@aioe.org...
>>> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I
>>>> would
>>>> update all my computers.
>>>>
>>>> All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the
>>>> way:-) where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express
>>>> Preferences' or something similar.
>>>>
>>>> Why would SP3 want to do that?
>>>>
>>>> I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else
>>>> and
>>>> I don't know what else may have changed.
>>>>
>>>> So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly
>>>> what exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?
>>>>
>>>
>>> How many times did you reboot after installing SP3? You should have
>>> rebooted twice before doing anything else. You should have also disabled
>>> your anti virus and malware apps.
>>>
>>> Alias
>




Re: SP3 changing OE Newsreader settings? by PA

PA
Mon Sep 01 11:48:47 PDT 2008

>>> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
>>> Avast!
>>> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.

The above at least implies that you'd uninstalled NAV and installed Avast
after you'd installed SP3.

Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
> Thanks for the reply PA Bear,
>
> I doubt it could have been running in the background...I uninstalled it
> before I even went near SP3! ;^)
>
> After uninstalling NAV I noticed a new menu entry for LiveUpdate
> Notification or something.
>
> Couldn't uninstall that because it told me a program depended on it -
> strange since it appeared *after* NAV was uninstalled.
>
> I also wanted to uninstall LiveUpdate itself but at that point I still had
> Ghost installed but after the cheek of Symantec putting something on my
> system after I removed one of their products I uninstalled everything
> Norton/Symantec/Live-whatever...on all 8 machines here and I am going to
> take my last Symantec purchase back for a refund...there...I feel much
> better now! ;^)
>
> Then I ran the Norton Removal Tool & rebooted.
>
> Only then did I install SP3
>
> First time I had uninstalled NAV before a Service Pack and the only time I
> have had trouble...
>
> No big deal...I was just curious what else may have been changed as I used
> to clickon a Send/Receive button on the toolbar but it is ghosted and
> can't
> be used now...:-(
>
> Kind regards,
> -=pp=-
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23XzEUjEDJHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
>>> Avast!
>>> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.
>>
>> 1. Was NAV running in the background when you installed SP3?
>>
>> 2. Have you downloaded & run the Norton Removal Tool yet? =>
>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>>> Thanks for the reply Alias...however helpful it might be! ;^)
>>>
>>> I never noticed it saying that I had to reboot twice before I done
>>> anything
>>> else?
>>>
>>> I've been a Windows user for many years so I gave up counting how many
>>> times
>>> it reboots in any case...with XP they said it wouldn't have to reboot so
>>> much especially when installing software but it seems that it still
>>> excessively reboots.
>>>
>>> As for AV etc. I had fully uninstalled NAV2008 prior to my installing
>>> Avast!
>>> *after* the SP3 upgrade as I thought that would be a good thing.
>>>
>>> I kept my old W2K running parallel to this one for ages while I
>>> meticulously
>>> copied configs/settings for all the programs I use to make sure I didn't
>>> miss anything...
>>>
>>> Aahh...well...I should be used to it by now but it is still annoying...
>>>
>>> Can't even see Send/Receive to put back on my toolbar...:-(
>>>
>>> Not sure whet else is FUBAR
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>> -=pp=-
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g9e3ob$lkd$2@aioe.org...
>>>> Pheasant Plucker® wrote:
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> Having held off SP3 for a while until the dust settled I thought I
>>>>> would
>>>>> update all my computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> All seemed to go well apart from my main machine (isn't it always the
>>>>> way:-) where I rebooted and I saw the 'Setting up Outlook Express
>>>>> Preferences' or something similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would SP3 want to do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> I see now my customised toolbar has defaulted back to something else
>>>>> and
>>>>> I don't know what else may have changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> So...why did SP3 decide to change my OE Settings and more importantly
>>>>> what exactly did it change apart from the toolbar that I can see?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many times did you reboot after installing SP3? You should have
>>>> rebooted twice before doing anything else. You should have also
>>>> disabled
>>>> your anti virus and malware apps.
>>>>
>>>> Alias