Tell XP to use the wifi card NOT the lan card?

I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
port.

I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.

I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.

The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that by
pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can get
on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.

How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?

I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.

Pegasus
Fri Mar 28 07:33:40 PDT 2008


<dterrors@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
> port.
>
> I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>
> I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
> other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
> internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>
> The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
> explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
> internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that by
> pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
> which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can get
> on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>
> How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
> rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>
> I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>
>

Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
what you're doing?

dterrors
Fri Mar 28 07:55:43 PDT 2008

On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
> > port.
>
> > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>
> > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
> > other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
> > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>
> > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
> > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
> > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that by
> > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
> > which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can get
> > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>
> > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
> > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>
> > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>
> Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
> Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
> what you're doing?

Yes. Where would I set up Default Gateway? I went into Network
Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
really need to have a fixed IP address?

Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
or for the wireless?

There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
internet"? The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.

smlunatick
Fri Mar 28 08:06:35 PDT 2008

On Mar 28, 9:55=A0am, dterr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...=

>
> > > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
> > > port.
>
> > > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>
> > > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
> > > other pc's on my router too. =A0But the router isn't connected to the
> > > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>
> > > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
> > > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
> > > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. =A0I can see that b=
y
> > > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
> > > which of course fails. =A0When I unplug my PC from the router, I can g=
et
> > > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>
> > > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
> > > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>
> > > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>
> > Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
> > Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
> > what you're doing?
>
> Yes. =A0Where would I set up Default Gateway? =A0I went into Network
> Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
> properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
> really need to have a fixed IP address?
>
> Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
> or for the wireless?
>
> There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
> internet"? =A0The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.- Hi=
de quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Then, what would you use your router for ?

You need to change the network from your router to a different IP
address "range" than the same one on the wireless network.

Then, disable the WAN port on you router.

Then, learn how to change the network adapters "metrics" so that the
wireless adapter be the first network to be check (I do not know how
since I only work with one network at a time.)

Pegasus
Fri Mar 28 09:24:06 PDT 2008


<dterrors@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
>> > port.
>>
>> > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>>
>> > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
>> > other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
>> > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>>
>> > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
>> > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
>> > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that by
>> > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
>> > which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can get
>> > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>>
>> > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
>> > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>>
>> > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>>
>> Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
>> Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
>> what you're doing?
>
> Yes. Where would I set up Default Gateway? I went into Network
> Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
> properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
> really need to have a fixed IP address?

If you don't have fixed IP addresses then your PC will
obtain its addresses from your own router, which is
exactly what you do not want.

> Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
> or for the wireless?

Do it for both.

> There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
> internet"? The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.

Windows will use the one that's available but you must ensure
that it knows where to send IP packets that are meant for the
outside world - hence the need to set the correct Default Gateway.

dterrors
Sun Mar 30 16:19:33 PDT 2008

On Mar 28, 12:24 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4af43af7-816c-4a15-b9bd-d7742e5fad61@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> >> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
> >> > port.
>
> >> > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>
> >> > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
> >> > other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
> >> > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>
> >> > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
> >> > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
> >> > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that by
> >> > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
> >> > which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can get
> >> > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>
> >> > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
> >> > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>
> >> > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>
> >> Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
> >> Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
> >> what you're doing?
>
> > Yes. Where would I set up Default Gateway? I went into Network
> > Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
> > properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
> > really need to have a fixed IP address?
>
> If you don't have fixed IP addresses then your PC will
> obtain its addresses from your own router, which is
> exactly what you do not want.
>
> > Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
> > or for the wireless?
>
> Do it for both.
>
> > There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
> > internet"? The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.
>
> Windows will use the one that's available but you must ensure
> that it knows where to send IP packets that are meant for the
> outside world - hence the need to set the correct Default Gateway.

OK, after setting up a static IP, gateway, and mask, I am able to get
on the net while connected to the router. However, now I can't get on
my LAN!

dterrors
Sun Mar 30 16:20:10 PDT 2008

On Mar 28, 12:24 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4af43af7-816c-4a15-b9bd-d7742e5fad61@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> >> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
> >> > port.
>
> >> > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>
> >> > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
> >> > other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
> >> > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>
> >> > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
> >> > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
> >> > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that by
> >> > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
> >> > which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can get
> >> > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>
> >> > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not the
> >> > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>
> >> > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>
> >> Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
> >> Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
> >> what you're doing?
>
> > Yes. Where would I set up Default Gateway? I went into Network
> > Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
> > properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
> > really need to have a fixed IP address?
>
> If you don't have fixed IP addresses then your PC will
> obtain its addresses from your own router, which is
> exactly what you do not want.
>
> > Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
> > or for the wireless?
>
> Do it for both.
>
> > There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
> > internet"? The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.
>
> Windows will use the one that's available but you must ensure
> that it knows where to send IP packets that are meant for the
> outside world - hence the need to set the correct Default Gateway.

OK, after setting up a static IP, gateway, and mask, I am able to get
on the net while connected to the router. However, now I can't get on
my LAN!

Pegasus
Sun Mar 30 16:54:57 PDT 2008


<dterrors@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 28, 12:24 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4af43af7-816c-4a15-b9bd-d7742e5fad61@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>> >> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
>> >> > port.
>>
>> >> > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>>
>> >> > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect to
>> >> > other pc's on my router too. But the router isn't connected to the
>> >> > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>>
>> >> > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
>> >> > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to the
>> >> > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. I can see that
>> >> > by
>> >> > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,
>> >> > which of course fails. When I unplug my PC from the router, I can
>> >> > get
>> >> > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>>
>> >> > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not
>> >> > the
>> >> > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>>
>> >> > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>>
>> >> Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
>> >> Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
>> >> what you're doing?
>>
>> > Yes. Where would I set up Default Gateway? I went into Network
>> > Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
>> > properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
>> > really need to have a fixed IP address?
>>
>> If you don't have fixed IP addresses then your PC will
>> obtain its addresses from your own router, which is
>> exactly what you do not want.
>>
>> > Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
>> > or for the wireless?
>>
>> Do it for both.
>>
>> > There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
>> > internet"? The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.
>>
>> Windows will use the one that's available but you must ensure
>> that it knows where to send IP packets that are meant for the
>> outside world - hence the need to set the correct Default Gateway.
>
> OK, after setting up a static IP, gateway, and mask, I am able to get
> on the net while connected to the router. However, now I can't get on
> my LAN!
>

It would be helpful if you posted the full IP details of your own
and of your neighbour's network.

smlunatick
Mon Mar 31 06:11:33 PDT 2008

On Mar 30, 6:20=A0pm, dterr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 28, 12:24 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4af43af7-816c-4a15-b9bd-d7742e5fad61@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...=

>
> > > On Mar 28, 10:33 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> > >> <dterr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:f11a4272-ee0f-4092-a246-45b36175347a@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com=
...
>
> > >> > I have both an wifi PCI card, and an onboard 10/100 rj45 network
> > >> > port.
>
> > >> > I have the wifi card getting internet just fine from my neighbor.
>
> > >> > I have my rj45 port connected to my router, so that I can connect t=
o
> > >> > other pc's on my router too. =A0But the router isn't connected to t=
he
> > >> > internet, nor do I want it to be. It's just internal only LAN.
>
> > >> > The problem is- if I plug my pc into the router, then internet
> > >> > explorer (and every other network needy app) tries to connect to th=
e
> > >> > internet using my router, instead of my wifi card. =A0I can see tha=
t by
> > >> > pinging an ip, I can see that it's trying to use my router for DNS,=

> > >> > which of course fails. =A0When I unplug my PC from the router, I ca=
n get
> > >> > on the web, because it uses my wifi card since there's no router.
>
> > >> > How do I tell windows "Use the wifi card for the web, please, not t=
he
> > >> > rj45 port, even when I'm connected to a router." ?
>
> > >> > I have Winxp sp2. Thanks.
>
> > >> Use fixed IP addresses and set your Default Gateway & DNS
> > >> Server to your neighbour's router. By the way, does he know
> > >> what you're doing?
>
> > > Yes. =A0Where would I set up Default Gateway? =A0I went into Network
> > > Connections and I have Wireless Network Connection, and then TCP/IP
> > > properties, and I can do "Use the following IP address", but do I
> > > really need to have a fixed IP address?
>
> > If you don't have fixed IP addresses then your PC will
> > obtain its addresses from your own router, which is
> > exactly what you do not want.
>
> > > Should I be doing this for my LAN router's Network Connection config
> > > or for the wireless?
>
> > Do it for both.
>
> > > There isn't a way to tell windows "use this Network Connection for
> > > internet"? =A0The wireless connection works fine when windows uses it.=

>
> > Windows will use the one that's available but you must ensure
> > that it knows where to send IP packets that are meant for the
> > outside world - hence the need to set the correct Default Gateway.
>
> OK, after setting up a static IP, gateway, and mask, I am able to get
> on the net while connected to the router. =A0However, now I can't get on
> my LAN!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LAN acess requires:

1) Same IP address subnet
2) Same Workgroup name
3) Sane user accounts on every PCs
4) File/Sharing service active.
50 Firewall rule to permit file/printing sharing
6) Anti-virus "Internet worm" module "access" rule -- permit every LAN
units access.