Hi All,

I am going to be installing XP as a virtual machine (VM)
on an existing Linux server.

License wise, Uncle Bill wants a separate XP license
for each XP VM. He also does not want us to sell XP OEM
without also selling a new computer with it.

Question: license wise, does a "new" VM constitute
a "new" computer? Or, do I need to sell the full "retail"
version of XP? (If it is considered a "gray area", I'll
just go with the retail version.)

Many thanks,
-T

Re: Question on OEM license and Virtual Machines by Carey

Carey
Thu Jul 03 14:09:27 PDT 2008

A VM is treated just as a conventional computer as
far as Windows licensing is concerned.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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"ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message news:OWgUG5U3IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Hi All,

I am going to be installing XP as a virtual machine (VM)
on an existing Linux server.

License wise, Uncle Bill wants a separate XP license
for each XP VM. He also does not want us to sell XP OEM
without also selling a new computer with it.

Question: license wise, does a "new" VM constitute
a "new" computer? Or, do I need to sell the full "retail"
version of XP? (If it is considered a "gray area", I'll
just go with the retail version.)

Many thanks,
-T

Re: Question on OEM license and Virtual Machines by Bob

Bob
Thu Jul 03 14:19:48 PDT 2008

If the "new VM" is on the same hardware as the "old VM" then the OEM is
still being installed on the original computer. If there never was an
"Old VM" then this is a new installation and the OEM is good there too.
You just can't put an OEM on a box, and then put another (second) copy
of the same OEM in a VM on that box. That make sense?

ToddAndMargo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am going to be installing XP as a virtual machine (VM)
> on an existing Linux server.
>
> License wise, Uncle Bill wants a separate XP license
> for each XP VM. He also does not want us to sell XP OEM
> without also selling a new computer with it.
>
> Question: license wise, does a "new" VM constitute
> a "new" computer? Or, do I need to sell the full "retail"
> version of XP? (If it is considered a "gray area", I'll
> just go with the retail version.)
>
> Many thanks,
> -T


Re: Question on OEM license and Virtual Machines by ToddAndMargo

ToddAndMargo
Thu Jul 03 14:22:22 PDT 2008

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> A VM is treated just as a conventional computer as
> far as Windows licensing is concerned.

Forgive me if I am being dense, but can I use the
OEM on this new VM or do I need to go with the
full retail version?

-T

Re: Question on OEM license and Virtual Machines by ToddAndMargo

ToddAndMargo
Thu Jul 03 14:27:34 PDT 2008

> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am going to be installing XP as a virtual machine (VM)
>> on an existing Linux server.
>>
>> License wise, Uncle Bill wants a separate XP license
>> for each XP VM. He also does not want us to sell XP OEM
>> without also selling a new computer with it.
>>
>> Question: license wise, does a "new" VM constitute
>> a "new" computer? Or, do I need to sell the full "retail"
>> version of XP? (If it is considered a "gray area", I'll
>> just go with the retail version.)
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>

Bob I wrote:
> If the "new VM" is on the same hardware as the "old VM" then the OEM is
> still being installed on the original computer. If there never was an
> "Old VM" then this is a new installation and the OEM is good there too.
> You just can't put an OEM on a box, and then put another (second) copy
> of the same OEM in a VM on that box. That make sense?
>

Okay. A VM is considered a separate machine. When you "create" a
new VM on old hardware, it is still considered a new machine and I can
use the OEM. Just one license per machine whether it is virtual or actual.

Have I got it right?

-T

Re: Question on OEM license and Virtual Machines by Bob

Bob
Thu Jul 03 14:39:56 PDT 2008



ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am going to be installing XP as a virtual machine (VM)
>>> on an existing Linux server.
>>>
>>> License wise, Uncle Bill wants a separate XP license
>>> for each XP VM. He also does not want us to sell XP OEM
>>> without also selling a new computer with it.
>>>
>>> Question: license wise, does a "new" VM constitute
>>> a "new" computer? Or, do I need to sell the full "retail"
>>> version of XP? (If it is considered a "gray area", I'll
>>> just go with the retail version.)
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> -T
>>
>>
>
> Bob I wrote:
> > If the "new VM" is on the same hardware as the "old VM" then the OEM is
> > still being installed on the original computer. If there never was an
> > "Old VM" then this is a new installation and the OEM is good there too.
> > You just can't put an OEM on a box, and then put another (second) copy
> > of the same OEM in a VM on that box. That make sense?
> >
>
> Okay. A VM is considered a separate machine. When you "create" a
> new VM on old hardware, it is still considered a new machine and I can
> use the OEM. Just one license per machine whether it is virtual or actual.
>
> Have I got it right?
>
> -T

That's that way I understand it. Virtual or real, no difference. And
even an old machine, lets say you build a machine and put your Retail
licence on it, and then decide to sell the box. You may buy an OEM
licence, put it on the "used box" and sell it with the OEM license and
keep your retail one.