Problem with SP3 and Diskeeper

I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice). All
went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a snap-in
problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to continue (as
well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in the sense that I
can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone else seen this
problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on their site and I
don't know if this is their or Microsoft's problem. Anyone have a clue
as to what is going on? TIA

-- Jeff Barnett

Gerry
Sat May 10 01:02:43 PDT 2008

Jeff

Can you please post a copy of the Error Report from Event Viewer?

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

http://support.diskeeper.com/support/faqs.aspx?Page=5&Subpage=2&cust=1&RId=1&CId=1&SId=5

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Jeff Barnett wrote:
> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice).
> All went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a
> snap-in problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to
> continue (as well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in
> the sense that I can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone
> else seen this problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted
> on their site and I don't know if this is their or Microsoft's
> problem. Anyone have a clue as to what is going on? TIA
>
> -- Jeff Barnett

Script
Sat May 10 04:22:01 PDT 2008



"Jeff Barnett" wrote:

> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice). All
> went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a snap-in
> problem when I try to run an analysis.

What's the message?

I get an option to continue (as
> well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in the sense that I
> can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone else seen this
> problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on their site and I
> don't know if this is their or Microsoft's problem. Anyone have a clue
> as to what is going on? TIA
>
> -- Jeff Barnett
>

MMC may be updated by SP3. See SP3 overview:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&displaylang=en

VanguardLH
Sat May 10 08:12:08 PDT 2008

"Jeff Barnett" wrote in <news:ODfDjPmsIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>:

> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice). All
> went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a snap-in
> problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to continue (as
> well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in the sense that I
> can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone else seen this
> problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on their site and I
> don't know if this is their or Microsoft's problem. Anyone have a clue
> as to what is going on? TIA


If you had read the overviews notes regarding SP-3, it notes the
inclusion of a new new major version of MMC. Your old app wasn't
designed to handle that version (which also means the old app is way too
MMC specific). You're choices are:
- Get rid of SP-3.
- Ask Diskeeper (http://support.diskeeper.com/support/Support.aspx) to
update their product to work with the new version of MMC. I doubt
they'll provide a patch for an unsupported old version.
- Upgrade to the latest version of Diskeeper. Yours is 3 versions old:
v9 was followed by v10, 2007, and 2008.

Now spend some time reading the overview on SP-3 so you'll know what
else changed:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

Gerry
Sat May 10 09:11:57 PDT 2008

The Manual is dated October 2004. I missed that.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

VanguardLH wrote:
> "Jeff Barnett" wrote in <news:ODfDjPmsIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>:
>
>> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice).
>> All went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a
>> snap-in problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to
>> continue (as well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in
>> the sense that I can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone
>> else seen this problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted
>> on their site and I don't know if this is their or Microsoft's
>> problem. Anyone have a clue as to what is going on? TIA
>
>
> If you had read the overviews notes regarding SP-3, it notes the
> inclusion of a new new major version of MMC. Your old app wasn't
> designed to handle that version (which also means the old app is way
> too MMC specific). You're choices are:
> - Get rid of SP-3.
> - Ask Diskeeper (http://support.diskeeper.com/support/Support.aspx) to
> update their product to work with the new version of MMC. I doubt
> they'll provide a patch for an unsupported old version.
> - Upgrade to the latest version of Diskeeper. Yours is 3 versions
> old: v9 was followed by v10, 2007, and 2008.
>
> Now spend some time reading the overview on SP-3 so you'll know what
> else changed:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

Bob
Sat May 10 09:43:47 PDT 2008

I am still running version 8 of Diskeeper, and have upgraded XP to SP-3.

Of course, I get a similar error pop-up message.

However, one of the options is to ignore the error and continue. I tried
that and Diskeeper still seems to function correctly.

Not clean, not beatuiful, but it works.


"Jeff Barnett" <jbbrus@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ODfDjPmsIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice). All
>went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a snap-in
>problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to continue (as well
>as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in the sense that I can do
>the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone else seen this problem?
>Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on their site and I don't know
>if this is their or Microsoft's problem. Anyone have a clue as to what is
>going on? TIA
>
> -- Jeff Barnett

Jeff
Sat May 10 10:42:24 PDT 2008

Jeff Barnett wrote:
> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice).
> All went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a
> snap-in problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to
> continue (as well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in
> the sense that I can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone
> else seen this problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on
> their site and I don't know if this is their or Microsoft's problem.
> Anyone have a clue as to what is going on? TIA
>
> -- Jeff Barnett
Additional information for all who asked: The diagnostic said "MMC has
detected an error in a snap-in. It is recommended that you shut down and
restart MMC." Checking the event viewer gives no more helpful
information; it says, in part, "description cannot be found".

Why I'm slightly troubled by this is that Diskeeper Light ships with XP
so there is no reason on earth to expected the Pro version (which
XP/Diskeeper promote when you use the freebie) will not work in SP3.

Further, it is unreasonable to expect everyone to read the SP3 release
notes (auto update anyone??!!??) and work out that some fundamental
applications/OS helpers will no longer work. [In my opinion it is a
fundamental flaw of XP that it does not ship with a defrag that will
work on all size disks. Disk maintenance IS part of OS chores.]

To the person who pointed out that I'm given an option to ignore the
problem and continue - I know that and that is what I'm doing. What I
don't know is the ramifications of this problem if I want to do a
boot-time defrag? Might I do bad things to my machine, get stuck in a
boot, error, BSOD, reboot recurring hell? Etc. Knowing how to get around
a problem in one situation tells only a little about the extent of the
problem ....

-- Jeff Barnett

GHalleck
Sat May 10 11:37:06 PDT 2008



Jeff Barnett wrote:

> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice). All
> went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a snap-in
> problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to continue (as
> well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in the sense that I
> can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone else seen this
> problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on their site and I
> don't know if this is their or Microsoft's problem. Anyone have a clue
> as to what is going on? TIA
>
> -- Jeff Barnett

Now that the opportunity has made it possible to ditch Diskeeper, might
as well do it. Never really needed the commercial version when the one
that shipped with Windows XP can do the job.

Jeff
Sat May 10 13:47:55 PDT 2008

GHalleck wrote:
>
>
> Jeff Barnett wrote:
>
>> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice).
>> All went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a
>> snap-in problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to
>> continue (as well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in
>> the sense that I can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone
>> else seen this problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted
>> on their site and I don't know if this is their or Microsoft's
>> problem. Anyone have a clue as to what is going on? TIA
>>
>> -- Jeff Barnett
>
> Now that the opportunity has made it possible to ditch Diskeeper, might
> as well do it. Never really needed the commercial version when the one
> that shipped with Windows XP can do the job.
>
I believe there is an 80 GB limit on disk size with the free version.
Has your experience been different??

-- Jeff Barnett

GHalleck
Sat May 10 21:15:25 PDT 2008


Jeff Barnett wrote:

> GHalleck wrote:
>
>> Jeff Barnett wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice).
>>> All went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about a
>>> snap-in problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to
>>> continue (as well as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in
>>> the sense that I can do the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone
>>> else seen this problem? Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted
>>> on their site and I don't know if this is their or Microsoft's
>>> problem. Anyone have a clue as to what is going on? TIA
>>>
>>> -- Jeff Barnett
>>
>>
>> Now that the opportunity has made it possible to ditch Diskeeper, might
>> as well do it. Never really needed the commercial version when the one
>> that shipped with Windows XP can do the job.
>>
> I believe there is an 80 GB limit on disk size with the free version.
> Has your experience been different??
>
> -- Jeff Barnett

Don't know about 80 GB partition limit. For ease of maintenance and
backing up of individual partitions (and mostly out of old habits), we
set up hard drive partitions of only 60 GB or less.

zmdmw52
Wed Jun 11 05:41:41 PDT 2008


I'm having a similar problem with Diskeeper on Win XP Pro SP3.

Maybe these 2 links may be of some help:

'How To: Fix Windows Built in Defragmenter
(http://www.andreasroom.com/blog/archive/2004/01/18/defrag.aspx)
'Download details: Microsoft Management Console 3.0 for Windows X
(KB907265)' (http://tinyurl.com/pw5gk

fixdwducttape
Thu Sep 18 04:14:36 PDT 2008


I have the same problem... but I just use the Diskkeeper as a standar
Defrag program. I prefer it over the Windows default. Nothing more..


I feel a bit perturbed over some of the necessary (and costly) update
most programs now insist on charging customers yearly for, otherwis
they don't work. What is with that?

Bob Harris;655078 Wrote:
> I am still running version 8 of Diskeeper, and have upgraded XP t
> SP-3.
>
> Of course, I get a similar error pop-up message.
>
> However, one of the options is to ignore the error and continue.
> tried
> that and Diskeeper still seems to function correctly.
>
> Not clean, not beatuiful, but it works.
>
>
> "Jeff Barnett" <jbbrus@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ODfDjPmsIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >I just installed SP3 on an XP Pro SP2 machine then rebooted (twice)
> All
> >went well except that Diskeeper 9 gives an error message about
> snap-in
> >problem when I try to run an analysis. I get an option to continue (a
> well
> >as inform Microsoft, etc.) and continuing works in the sense that
> can do
> >the analysis and defrag my disks. Has anyone else seen this problem?
> >Diskeeper Corporation has no updates posted on their site and I don'
> know
> >if this is their or Microsoft's problem. Anyone have a clue as to wha
> is
> >going on? TIA
> >
> > -- Jeff Barnet