I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.

I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
free upgrade. I can use Works instead.

I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.

Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?

I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
anyway.

Would appreciate any suggestions.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by PA

PA
Sun Aug 31 22:51:56 PDT 2008

Your best bet would be...

Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Bill Watt wrote:
> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>
> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>
> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>
> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>
> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
> anyway.
>
> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Curt

Curt
Sun Aug 31 23:21:22 PDT 2008

A big hello, Bill. I haven't seen you since the W98 gen. discussion NG!
Take care!

--
Curt

http://dundats.mvps.org/
http://www.aumha.org/





"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:1uumb4l08c5rppig38ouge757itnpgn6fm@4ax.com...
>
> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>
> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>
> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>
> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>
> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
> anyway.
>
> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Lil'

Lil'
Mon Sep 01 04:23:07 PDT 2008

"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:1uumb4l08c5rppig38ouge757itnpgn6fm@4ax.com...
>
> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>
> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>
> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>
> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>
> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
> anyway.
>
> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>

Unless the platform has to have internet access, consequently, current virus
protection and a firewall; leave it alone. If the hardware is more than 3
years old, you may be terribly displeased with performance due to all the
overhead.
--
Dave



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Alias

Alias
Mon Sep 01 04:29:17 PDT 2008

Bill Watt wrote:
> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>
> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>
> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>
> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>
> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
> anyway.
>
> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>

What are the hardware stats of this computer? You will need at least
512MB RAM, 64MB graphics card and an 800Mhz processor.

Frontpage 2000 will work fine as will PhotoShop 6. I don't know about
the other programs but they probably will work.

Alias

Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Unknown

Unknown
Mon Sep 01 07:49:48 PDT 2008

Your first task should be to verify your hardware devices are XP compatible.
"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:1uumb4l08c5rppig38ouge757itnpgn6fm@4ax.com...
>
> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>
> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>
> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>
> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>
> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
> anyway.
>
> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Stephen

Stephen
Mon Sep 01 10:13:06 PDT 2008

Alias wrote:
> Bill Watt wrote:
>> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>>
>> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
>> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
>> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
>> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>>
>> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>>
>> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
>> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
>> anyway.
>>
>> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt Win98 Computer Help & Other Information
>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>>
>
> What are the hardware stats of this computer? You will need at least
> 512MB RAM, 64MB graphics card and an 800Mhz processor.
>
> Frontpage 2000 will work fine as will PhotoShop 6. I don't know about
> the other programs but they probably will work.
>
> Alias


Yes, that is true through SP2, I'm not so sure about SP3,
sort of because Photo Shop 6 does not work on Vista. XP
has a compatibility wizard (Start->Help and Support, then
type "getting older programs to run under Windows XP" into
the search bar, will bring you to the run compatibility wizard,
for Greeting Card Deluxe 3 (I can't remember the version I had).

Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Mon Sep 01 22:16:05 PDT 2008


Thanks for the info Bear. I put in the XP Pro Upgrade CD and
selected Check Compatibility. Then selected to do the compatibility
check automatically. It went for a short time then a Window came up
saying that the system files may need updating since I purchased the
CD. There was an option to download updated files. I'd like a
compatibility check of the system and not download anything at this
time. The files are on the CD where would the download go? I was
afraid it would start the install and I need to do some backups
before I try the install. So I cancelled.

Any ideas?

Thanks again.

Bill
_____________________________________________________


On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:51:56 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

>Your best bet would be...
>
>Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>--
>~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
>Bill Watt wrote:
>> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>>
>> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
>> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
>> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>>
>> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
>> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>>
>> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>>
>> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
>> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
>> anyway.
>>
>> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt
>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Mon Sep 01 22:25:54 PDT 2008

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:21:22 -0500, "Curt Christianson"
<curtchristnsn@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>A big hello, Bill. I haven't seen you since the W98 gen. discussion NG!
>Take care!

Yes, been awhile Curt. Wish this was as easy as 98x.

Later,

Bill


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Mon Sep 01 22:56:36 PDT 2008

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:15:32 -0700, Stephen Harris
<cyberguard-1048@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> What are the hardware stats of this computer? You will need at least
>> 512MB RAM, 64MB graphics card and an 800Mhz processor.
>>
>> Frontpage 2000 will work fine as will PhotoShop 6. I don't know about
>> the other programs but they probably will work.
>>
>> Alias

I don't see the post by Alias. Have 512 Ram, 1GB processor, DVD and
CDRW drives. 2 80 GB Hard drives, Floppy and 1 yr old flat screen.
Also 64MB graphics card. The External 80 GB USB drive works on XP
Notebook.

Thanks for program info.

Bill


>Yes, that is true through SP2, I'm not so sure about SP3,
>sort of because Photo Shop 6 does not work on Vista. XP
>has a compatibility wizard (Start->Help and Support, then
>type "getting older programs to run under Windows XP" into
>the search bar, will bring you to the run compatibility wizard,
>for Greeting Card Deluxe 3 (I can't remember the version I had).

Good info, thanks.

Bill


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by PA

PA
Tue Sep 02 07:19:33 PDT 2008

Here's what I'd recommend:

1. Purchase a new machine with WinXP SP2/SP3 preinstalled, Bill. (Act
quickly!)

Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet
http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html

2. Use FAST wizard to transfer the Win98 data (but not any applications) to
the WinXP machine.

Using WinXP's FAST Wizard, by MVP Gary Woodruff
(Please read the caveats about Outlook Express)
http://aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Bill Watt wrote:
> Thanks for the info Bear. I put in the XP Pro Upgrade CD and
> selected Check Compatibility. Then selected to do the compatibility
> check automatically. It went for a short time then a Window came up
> saying that the system files may need updating since I purchased the
> CD. There was an option to download updated files. I'd like a
> compatibility check of the system and not download anything at this
> time. The files are on the CD where would the download go? I was
> afraid it would start the install and I need to do some backups
> before I try the install. So I cancelled.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Bill
> _____________________________________________________
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:51:56 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Your best bet would be...
>>
>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>>>
>>> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
>>> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
>>> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>>>
>>> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
>>> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>>>
>>> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>>>
>>> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
>>> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bill Watt
>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Tue Sep 02 11:31:50 PDT 2008

I agree. If his computer is so old he's been running Office 97, it may not
even be up to the task of running Windows XP decently. Maybe Dell is
still selling a few with Windows XP? But time is running out.

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> Here's what I'd recommend:
>
> 1. Purchase a new machine with WinXP SP2/SP3 preinstalled, Bill. (Act
> quickly!)
>
> Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet
> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html
>
> 2. Use FAST wizard to transfer the Win98 data (but not any applications)
> to
> the WinXP machine.
>
> Using WinXP's FAST Wizard, by MVP Gary Woodruff
> (Please read the caveats about Outlook Express)
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Bill Watt wrote:
>> Thanks for the info Bear. I put in the XP Pro Upgrade CD and
>> selected Check Compatibility. Then selected to do the compatibility
>> check automatically. It went for a short time then a Window came up
>> saying that the system files may need updating since I purchased the
>> CD. There was an option to download updated files. I'd like a
>> compatibility check of the system and not download anything at this
>> time. The files are on the CD where would the download go? I was
>> afraid it would start the install and I need to do some backups
>> before I try the install. So I cancelled.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Bill
>> _____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:51:56 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>
>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>>> I bought XP Pro Upgrade and am considering upgrading my Win98 SE PC.
>>>>
>>>> I need to know which of my programs will or won't work. I found an
>>>> area on the MS site but only found one, MS Office 97, and it needs a
>>>> free upgrade. I can use Works instead.
>>>>
>>>> I could not find Front Page 2000, Quicken 99, Photo Shop 6,
>>>> Greeting Card Deluxe 3 and some others.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a list somewhere that's easy to access?
>>>>
>>>> I could install them on my XP Pro Notebook to see if they work but
>>>> that will be involved. I want to use the PC for the important stuff
>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Would appreciate any suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bill Watt
>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Tue Sep 02 21:19:21 PDT 2008

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:31:50 -0600, "Bill in Co."
<not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I agree. If his computer is so old he's been running Office 97, it may not
>even be up to the task of running Windows XP decently. Maybe Dell is
>still selling a few with Windows XP? But time is running out.

Hi Bill,

The machine is a Systemax and I ordered it 6/8/01. It came with Win
ME that I got rid of. I already had Office 97 and installed it on
the new machine. I have the driver CD for it.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Tue Sep 02 22:33:07 PDT 2008

Well, but my point is, your computer may not be fully up to it. As a rough
guideline, I'd suggest at least 512 MB of RAM, and perhaps a 1 GHz CPU.
(Now, that isn't a hard and fast rule, but still I think it's a fair
assessment. I'm assuming you don't want to run a borderline system).
And your motherboard is pretty old (2001), so the somewhat newer things
(like SATA, for example) become problematic, if even attainable.

I was faced with a similar decision earlier this year. I had (and still
have) an older Dell with Win98SE, and about the same age as yours, with a
800 MHZ CPU, and 512 MB RAM (and that's ALL it could ever take), and was
thinking about upgrading it too, like you. But with the prices of the new
Dells coming out with Windows XP (basic only - not top end), it just didn't
seem worth upgrading, and then having to live with a substandard machine
(and that's assuming that the upgrade even worked out). But it's getting
harder to find computers with XP anymore, as Vista is becoming the norm for
the new ones (and I DON'T WANT VISTA!!!).



Bill Watt wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:31:50 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree. If his computer is so old he's been running Office 97, it may
>> not
>> even be up to the task of running Windows XP decently. Maybe Dell is
>> still selling a few with Windows XP? But time is running out.
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> The machine is a Systemax and I ordered it 6/8/01. It came with Win
> ME that I got rid of. I already had Office 97 and installed it on
> the new machine. I have the driver CD for it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Tue Sep 02 23:40:17 PDT 2008

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:33:07 -0600, "Bill in Co."
<not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Well, but my point is, your computer may not be fully up to it. As a rough
>guideline, I'd suggest at least 512 MB of RAM, and perhaps a 1 GHz CPU.
>(Now, that isn't a hard and fast rule, but still I think it's a fair
>assessment. I'm assuming you don't want to run a borderline system).
>And your motherboard is pretty old (2001), so the somewhat newer things
>(like SATA, for example) become problematic, if even attainable.
>
>I was faced with a similar decision earlier this year. I had (and still
>have) an older Dell with Win98SE, and about the same age as yours, with a
>800 MHZ CPU, and 512 MB RAM (and that's ALL it could ever take), and was
>thinking about upgrading it too, like you. But with the prices of the new
>Dells coming out with Windows XP (basic only - not top end), it just didn't
>seem worth upgrading, and then having to live with a substandard machine
>(and that's assuming that the upgrade even worked out). But it's getting
>harder to find computers with XP anymore, as Vista is becoming the norm for
>the new ones (and I DON'T WANT VISTA!!!).

Amen on Vista !!!
I have 256 Ram, 1GB processor, DVD and CDRW drives. Two 80 GB Hard
drives, Floppy and 1 yr old Dell flat screen. I could add more
memory. Also 64MB graphics card. The External 80 GB USB drive works
on XP Pro Notebook. As does the printer.

My real problem, even with a new XP Pro machine is installing all my
programs. I have a ton of them including some Dos stuff that I use.
This would take forever. The machine meets or exceeds the
requirements listed on the XP box. Things would be so much easier
and save a lot of time if I can do the upgrade.

Your info is well taken. I was planning to upgrade and if there are
too many problems then I would restore my full system backup.

I think I'll download the Compatibility Advisor from the site Bear
supplied and try that. Then it shouldn't try to install the OS or
update any files that could cause problems if the upgrade doesn't
work like what the CD tried to do, and I cancel it.

Thanks,

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Wed Sep 03 00:24:33 PDT 2008

Bill, FWIW:
I used Laplink's PC Mover to move my stuff over from the old Win98SE
computer to the new Dell XP computer, and it saved me a LOT of time! A
few apps had to be reinstalled, but other than that, it worked out pretty
well. Like you, the idea of reinstalling everything from scratch seemed
like a real PIA! (but of course, that would be the best way, if you ever did
it).

Bill Watt wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:33:07 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, but my point is, your computer may not be fully up to it. As a
>> rough
>> guideline, I'd suggest at least 512 MB of RAM, and perhaps a 1 GHz CPU.
>> (Now, that isn't a hard and fast rule, but still I think it's a fair
>> assessment. I'm assuming you don't want to run a borderline system).
>> And your motherboard is pretty old (2001), so the somewhat newer things
>> (like SATA, for example) become problematic, if even attainable.
>>
>> I was faced with a similar decision earlier this year. I had (and still
>> have) an older Dell with Win98SE, and about the same age as yours, with a
>> 800 MHZ CPU, and 512 MB RAM (and that's ALL it could ever take), and was
>> thinking about upgrading it too, like you. But with the prices of the
>> new
>> Dells coming out with Windows XP (basic only - not top end), it just
>> didn't
>> seem worth upgrading, and then having to live with a substandard machine
>> (and that's assuming that the upgrade even worked out). But it's
>> getting
>> harder to find computers with XP anymore, as Vista is becoming the norm
>> for
>> the new ones (and I DON'T WANT VISTA!!!).
>
> Amen on Vista !!!
> I have 256 Ram, 1GB processor, DVD and CDRW drives. Two 80 GB Hard
> drives, Floppy and 1 yr old Dell flat screen. I could add more
> memory. Also 64MB graphics card. The External 80 GB USB drive works
> on XP Pro Notebook. As does the printer.
>
> My real problem, even with a new XP Pro machine is installing all my
> programs. I have a ton of them including some Dos stuff that I use.
> This would take forever. The machine meets or exceeds the
> requirements listed on the XP box. Things would be so much easier
> and save a lot of time if I can do the upgrade.
>
> Your info is well taken. I was planning to upgrade and if there are
> too many problems then I would restore my full system backup.
>
> I think I'll download the Compatibility Advisor from the site Bear
> supplied and try that. Then it shouldn't try to install the OS or
> update any files that could cause problems if the upgrade doesn't
> work like what the CD tried to do, and I cancel it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by John

John
Fri Sep 05 11:40:42 PDT 2008

I also didn't want to reinstall programs when I upgraded. I took a 533mHz
Celeron with maxed out 256MB ram and upgraded 98 to XP a couple of years
ago. It's kinda slow but at least it runs the latest browsers and A/V and
iTunes etc. Broadband helps.


"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:pmasb4lpg9sr0noiud4ktdjv323t03qfps@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:33:07 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Well, but my point is, your computer may not be fully up to it. As a
rough
> >guideline, I'd suggest at least 512 MB of RAM, and perhaps a 1 GHz CPU.
> >(Now, that isn't a hard and fast rule, but still I think it's a fair
> >assessment. I'm assuming you don't want to run a borderline system).
> >And your motherboard is pretty old (2001), so the somewhat newer things
> >(like SATA, for example) become problematic, if even attainable.
> >
> >I was faced with a similar decision earlier this year. I had (and still
> >have) an older Dell with Win98SE, and about the same age as yours, with a
> >800 MHZ CPU, and 512 MB RAM (and that's ALL it could ever take), and was
> >thinking about upgrading it too, like you. But with the prices of the
new
> >Dells coming out with Windows XP (basic only - not top end), it just
didn't
> >seem worth upgrading, and then having to live with a substandard machine
> >(and that's assuming that the upgrade even worked out). But it's
getting
> >harder to find computers with XP anymore, as Vista is becoming the norm
for
> >the new ones (and I DON'T WANT VISTA!!!).
>
> Amen on Vista !!!
> I have 256 Ram, 1GB processor, DVD and CDRW drives. Two 80 GB Hard
> drives, Floppy and 1 yr old Dell flat screen. I could add more
> memory. Also 64MB graphics card. The External 80 GB USB drive works
> on XP Pro Notebook. As does the printer.
>
> My real problem, even with a new XP Pro machine is installing all my
> programs. I have a ton of them including some Dos stuff that I use.
> This would take forever. The machine meets or exceeds the
> requirements listed on the XP box. Things would be so much easier
> and save a lot of time if I can do the upgrade.
>
> Your info is well taken. I was planning to upgrade and if there are
> too many problems then I would restore my full system backup.
>
> I think I'll download the Compatibility Advisor from the site Bear
> supplied and try that. Then it shouldn't try to install the OS or
> update any files that could cause problems if the upgrade doesn't
> work like what the CD tried to do, and I cancel it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Alias

Alias
Fri Sep 05 18:24:02 PDT 2008

Bill Watt wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:15:32 -0700, Stephen Harris
> <cyberguard-1048@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> What are the hardware stats of this computer? You will need at least
>>> 512MB RAM, 64MB graphics card and an 800Mhz processor.
>>>
>>> Frontpage 2000 will work fine as will PhotoShop 6. I don't know about
>>> the other programs but they probably will work.
>>>
>>> Alias
>
> I don't see the post by Alias. Have 512 Ram, 1GB processor, DVD and
> CDRW drives. 2 80 GB Hard drives, Floppy and 1 yr old flat screen.
> Also 64MB graphics card. The External 80 GB USB drive works on XP
> Notebook.
>
> Thanks for program info.
>
> Bill

Up the RAM to 1 gig. You'll be glad you did.

Alias
>
>
>> Yes, that is true through SP2, I'm not so sure about SP3,
>> sort of because Photo Shop 6 does not work on Vista. XP
>> has a compatibility wizard (Start->Help and Support, then
>> type "getting older programs to run under Windows XP" into
>> the search bar, will bring you to the run compatibility wizard,
>> for Greeting Card Deluxe 3 (I can't remember the version I had).
>
> Good info, thanks.
>
> Bill
>

Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Fri Sep 05 22:24:23 PDT 2008

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:51:56 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

>Your best bet would be...
>
>Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726

I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
information. ??

Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?

Thanks

Bill Watt



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by PA

PA
Sat Sep 06 11:29:30 PDT 2008

Bill Watt wrote:
>> Your best bet would be...
>>
>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>
> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
> information. ??
>
> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no longer
available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Sat Sep 06 22:01:36 PDT 2008

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:29:30 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bill Watt wrote:
>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>
>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>
>> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
>> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
>> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
>> information. ??
>>
>> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?
>
>I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no longer
>available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.

I found it at PC World.
http://tinyurl.com/5pc69y

It's the same as on the CD so I dunno. It says it also updates
necessary files. If it does that and then won't upgrade I'm
concerned that my existing Win98 SE will be in trouble. I would
think it would upgrade files only after it found it could upgrade,
not before. Yet that is what it appeared to want to do.

I'll make a full system backup just before try it.

Thanks for the help and info Bear.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Sat Sep 06 23:55:21 PDT 2008

I think when I ran that once on my older W98SE Dell (circa 2000), it found
problems with the dialup modem and the version of EZ CD Creator, and
possibly one or two other programs, so you may be fairly ok, except for all
the caveats we have already covered. Good luck, although I still think
you'd be better off getting a new Dell, and using Laplink's PC Mover (for
example) to move all your stuff over.

Bill Watt wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:29:30 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>>
>>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>>
>>> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
>>> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
>>> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
>>> information. ??
>>>
>>> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?
>>
>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no
>> longer
>> available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.
>
> I found it at PC World.
> http://tinyurl.com/5pc69y
>
> It's the same as on the CD so I dunno. It says it also updates
> necessary files. If it does that and then won't upgrade I'm
> concerned that my existing Win98 SE will be in trouble. I would
> think it would upgrade files only after it found it could upgrade,
> not before. Yet that is what it appeared to want to do.
>
> I'll make a full system backup just before try it.
>
> Thanks for the help and info Bear.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/



Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by PA

PA
Sun Sep 07 00:08:05 PDT 2008

Bill Watt wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:29:30 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>>
>>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>>
>>> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
>>> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
>>> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
>>> information. ??
>>>
>>> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?
>>
>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no
>> longer
>> available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.
>
> I found it at PC World.
> http://tinyurl.com/5pc69y
<snip>

I'd only down such a file from a MS site myself, Bill.
--
~PA Bear


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Sun Sep 07 21:31:35 PDT 2008

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 03:08:05 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bill Watt wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:29:30 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>>>
>>>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>>>
>>>> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
>>>> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
>>>> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
>>>> information. ??
>>>>
>>>> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no
>>> longer
>>> available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.
>>
>> I found it at PC World.
>> http://tinyurl.com/5pc69y
><snip>
>
>I'd only down such a file from a MS site myself, Bill.

I think you are right. I'll stay with the CD. I suspect it will
install all the patches since Win98 SE came out. I have never
patched or updated it. It's been working very well without them.
Still don't understand why it wants to update system files and not
just upgrade.

Thanks,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Sun Sep 07 21:50:26 PDT 2008


I'm due for a new machine (2001). I ordered a Dell for my Daughter
about 2 yrs ago with Win 2000 on it. It's worked well. I've always
ordered my machines from MidWest Micro with good luck.

I have an older version of Laplink but no PC Mover. Do you happen to
know where I can get it?

This will be a task, I have never clean re-installed an OS, Always
used my backup and Upgrades so you can imagine the amount of
software I have collected since Win 1. It's about time I clean house
I guess.

Thanks for the Info again.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
_____________________________________________________

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:55:21 -0600, "Bill in Co."
<not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I think when I ran that once on my older W98SE Dell (circa 2000), it found
>problems with the dialup modem and the version of EZ CD Creator, and
>possibly one or two other programs, so you may be fairly ok, except for all
>the caveats we have already covered. Good luck, although I still think
>you'd be better off getting a new Dell, and using Laplink's PC Mover (for
>example) to move all your stuff over.
>
>Bill Watt wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:29:30 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>>>
>>>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>>>
>>>> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
>>>> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
>>>> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
>>>> information. ??
>>>>
>>>> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no
>>> longer
>>> available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.
>>
>> I found it at PC World.
>> http://tinyurl.com/5pc69y
>>
>> It's the same as on the CD so I dunno. It says it also updates
>> necessary files. If it does that and then won't upgrade I'm
>> concerned that my existing Win98 SE will be in trouble. I would
>> think it would upgrade files only after it found it could upgrade,
>> not before. Yet that is what it appeared to want to do.
>>
>> I'll make a full system backup just before try it.
>>
>> Thanks for the help and info Bear.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt
>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>


Re: List of Programs that will or won't work with XP Pro SP2 ? by Bill

Bill
Sun Sep 07 22:24:46 PDT 2008

Bill Watt wrote:
> I'm due for a new machine (2001). I ordered a Dell for my Daughter
> about 2 yrs ago with Win 2000 on it. It's worked well. I've always
> ordered my machines from MidWest Micro with good luck.
>
> I have an older version of Laplink but no PC Mover. Do you happen to
> know where I can get it?

Either online at their website, or you can order it boxed (either from them,
or from many software outlets). Or if you live in a large city, you can
probably find it locally in a store that carries software. Anyways, it
worked for me although some apps still had to be reinstalled.

> This will be a task, I have never clean re-installed an OS, Always
> used my backup and Upgrades so you can imagine the amount of
> software I have collected since Win 1. It's about time I clean house
> I guess.
>
> Thanks for the Info again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
> _____________________________________________________
>
> On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:55:21 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> I think when I ran that once on my older W98SE Dell (circa 2000), it
>> found
>> problems with the dialup modem and the version of EZ CD Creator, and
>> possibly one or two other programs, so you may be fairly ok, except for
>> all
>> the caveats we have already covered. Good luck, although I still think
>> you'd be better off getting a new Dell, and using Laplink's PC Mover (for
>> example) to move all your stuff over.
>>
>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:29:30 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>>> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill Watt wrote:
>>>>>> Your best bet would be...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Description of the Windows XP Upgrade Advisor:
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked all over the site for the Advisor download but couldn't
>>>>> find it. I thought there was a download that would let you know if
>>>>> the system could be upgraded and provide a text file with the
>>>>> information. ??
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you happen to know if there is one and where it is?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the WinXP Upgrade Advisor is no
>>>> longer
>>>> available, Bill. My bad for even mentioning it.
>>>
>>> I found it at PC World.
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5pc69y
>>>
>>> It's the same as on the CD so I dunno. It says it also updates
>>> necessary files. If it does that and then won't upgrade I'm
>>> concerned that my existing Win98 SE will be in trouble. I would
>>> think it would upgrade files only after it found it could upgrade,
>>> not before. Yet that is what it appeared to want to do.
>>>
>>> I'll make a full system backup just before try it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help and info Bear.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bill Watt
>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/