Colin
Tue May 13 15:14:43 PDT 2008
I hope you find the link because that sounds exactly like what came out of
some discussions in the SP3 beta newsgroup. I wish that the newsgroup was
still on the betanews server so I could retrieve some quotes from the team
but MS took the ng down a couple of months ago. One thing I remember
clearly is that slipstreaming works but the resulting installed OS is broken
someplace.
"Big Al" <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:7AnWj.20195$5b3.5621@trnddc05...
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> The rollup of issued patches and updates is cumulative. Other changes
>> written only by a service pack installer and not later released in an
>> update would not be included and would not be part of the cumulative
>> rollup feature of a later sp. This does not negate the rollup nature of
>> a later sp.
>>
>> The bottom line to all of this is that we all know that SP3 will not
>> install on an XP Gold installation of Windows when using Windows Update
>> since MS is blocking this so something is going on relating to SP3 and XP
>> Gold. So why take a chance that the same issue would not exist when
>> applying other methods of integrating SP3? The two-stage creation of a
>> slipstreamed cd is straight forward and renders the question of doing a
>> single-stage integration pretty academic so why not just do it that way
>> to be safe?
>>
>> The discussion on this point in this ng shows very different opinions but
>> these are academic issues. For the user, the practical approach to
>> creating an integrated cd should be to use a method guaranteed to avoid
>> the problem entirely. If you can make one slipstreamed cd you obviously
>> are in a position to make two so the resolution to the uncertainties is
>> just do it.
>>
>> "student" <guest@csus__.edu> wrote in message
>> news:UeWdncpcMvrCbbTVnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> The overview claims that sp3 is "cumulative"; if sp1 or sp2 is
>>> "required" then
>>> sp3 does not do what sp1 or sp2 did; if certain files are changed in
>>> sp1/sp2
>>> & not sp3 then sp3 is NOT cumulative.
>>>
>>> Therefore m$ lied about sp3 if either sp1 or sp2 is required.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2008-05-13, Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> However, more details in the linked documentation exclude anything
>>>> before XP
>>>> SP1.
>>>>
>>>> "Frank-FL" <bbunny@bqik.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uZEhpbRtIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:qhke249l6pvanovmgju7ehme8qulthavdk@4ax.com...
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is, according to the SP3 beta team. See my reply in this
>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> sure I don't have it 100% correct but I am sure that the team said
>>>>>> slipstreaming on XP Gold would produce an integrated cd that would
>>>>>> install
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> defective XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to be a "common sense" thing to me - and I like to play
>>>>> around with my system (just checked my Vista services settings with
>>>>> Black Viper's "tweaked"- I only found three settings I could stop that
>>>>> I hadn't stopped).
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, why anyone would try something when slipstreaming that
>>>>> isn't recommended is beyond my comprehension.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:cn5e24p8afouv8ickjm3a96nanm8gfisg3@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> ClueLess <clueless@wilderness.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Today I tried with my original XP Pro (Retail) and the
>>>>>>>> slipstreaming
>>>>>>>> with nLite went without any warning or hitch. That means, AFAICS,
>>>>>>>> update.exe did not check whether XP was with either SP1 or SP2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but are you SURE that you now have SP1 and SP2 files on that
>>>>>>> slipstreamed disc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There must be a good reason why SP1 is required and SP2 is
>>>>>>> recommended.
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=68C48DAD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en#filelist
>>>>
>>>> System Requirements
>>>> a.. Supported Operating Systems: Windows XP; Windows XP Home Edition
>>>> ;
>>>> Windows XP Home Edition N; Windows XP Media Center Edition; Windows XP
>>>> Professional Edition ; Windows XP Professional N; Windows XP Service
>>>> Pack 1;
>>>> Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP Starter Edition; Windows XP
>>>> Tablet PC
>>>> Edition
>>>> Windows® XP
>>>>
>>
> I read someplace that there is a piece of software missing in XPGold that
> makes slipstream of SP3 impossible, or renders it somewhat broken. I wish
> I had bookmarked the link, but it seemed pretty authoritative. And
> obviously SP1 or SP2 have put that 'thing' into the OS making SP3 work.