GregCost
Mon Jul 07 06:50:04 PDT 2008
Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring the
drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.
I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on
SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or
trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change
the pattern. I'll post the results here.
Thanks again guys. Greg
"GregCost" wrote:
> I'll give it a try, thanks JS
>
> Greg
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
> >
> > BART PE
> >
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> >
> > Puppy Linux:
> >
http://www.puppylinux.org/
> >
> > JS
> >
> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to
> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
> > >
> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and
> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.
> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.
> > > The
> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with
> > > service
> > > pack 3 installed.
> > >
> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard
> > > shutdown
> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure
> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru
> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
> > > protection
> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the
> > > drive
> > > for write protection.
> > >
> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a
> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when
> > > I
> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
> > >
> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?
> > >
> > > Open to additional suggestions.
> > >
> > > Thanks Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > "GregCost" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Ken, JS,
> > >>
> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is
> > >> a
> > >> cheap one - no more.
> > >>
> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my
> > >> > > computer was
> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> > >> > > effective)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
> > >> >
> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
> > >> >
> > >> > Two more points:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
> > >> >
> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after
> > >> > > windows
> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows
> > >> > > on
> > >> > > another drive on the system.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on
> > >> > > the drive
> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE
> > >> > > Visual
> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is
> > >> > > being
> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
> > >> > >
> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID
> > >> > > Is not in
> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
> > >> > > validates it
> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I
> > >> > > click apply
> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission
> > >> > > changes.
> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive
> > >> > > to the
> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > >> > > "Access denied"
> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > >> > > "Access denied"
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt
> > >> > > positioned
> > >> > > one level up
> > >> > >
> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> > >> > > NT
> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> > >> > > <Account Domain not found>F
> > >> > > <Account Domain not
> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
> > >> > >
> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
> > >> > >
> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?
> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question
> > >> > > still has
> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system
> > >> > > can't quite
> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able
> > >> > > to copy
> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some
> > >> > > default? or
> > >> > > basic property accessibility
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,
> > >> > > SCSI
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks Greg
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >> >
> >
> >
> >