Does The SP3 Download IS0 File

Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
Tks, Fred

Big
Thu May 08 08:07:01 PDT 2008

Fred wrote:
> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
> Tks, Fred
>
>
No IE7 for sure. Not sure about OE6

Alias
Thu May 08 08:07:45 PDT 2008

Fred wrote:
> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
> Tks, Fred
>
>

No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy
enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7 first.

Alias

Bruce
Thu May 08 08:15:03 PDT 2008


"Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
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> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
> Tks, Fred
>


You're current message headers read:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198

After SP3 they will read:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512

So, you will have the latest version of OE, but I don't believe there were
any changes. That said, while there will never be any improvements made to
OE, security issues will be addressed as lone as XP is supported at the very
least, but you will need SP3 to get any further OE updates.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

Saga
Thu May 08 08:21:36 PDT 2008

Wait a second, say that again.

Are you saying that if I have ie7 and SP2 I will have to uninstall IE7 if I want to
install SP3?

Saga
--


"Alias" <iamaliasNON@SPAMMEnukethisgmail.com> wrote in message news:fvv501$fhk$1@aioe.org...
> Fred wrote:
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred
>>
>>
>
> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy enough to install SP3, you'll
> have to uninstall IE7 first.
>
> Alias

Shenan
Thu May 08 08:24:08 PDT 2008

Fred wrote:
> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?

Alias wrote:
> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy
> enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7 first.

Fred,

SP3 does not include Internet Explorer 7. if by "Express 6" you mean
"Outlook Express 6", truthfully if you have Windows XP installed - you have
Outlook Express 6. It might get upgraded/patched with IE7 installs - but it
is still Outlook Express 6.

Alias,

Please explain, "you'll have to uninstall IE7 first"... I really do not
understand that part.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
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PD43
Thu May 08 08:29:07 PDT 2008

"Saga" <antiSpam@somewhere.com> wrote:

>Are you saying that if I have ie7 and SP2 I will have to uninstall IE7 if I want to
>install SP3?

No.

Bruce
Thu May 08 08:25:16 PDT 2008


"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fvv501$fhk$1@aioe.org...
> Fred wrote:
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred
>>
>>
>
> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy enough
> to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7 first.
>
> Alias


Huh?

Fred
Thu May 08 08:39:22 PDT 2008

Then I guess if at any time I have to format the HD I would need to use my
current OEM SP2 disk with IE7/Outlook Express 6. Then install the SP3 from
the burned DVD.
Fred

"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
> news:uFJGfyRsIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred
>>
>
>
> You're current message headers read:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>
> After SP3 they will read:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>
> So, you will have the latest version of OE, but I don't believe there were
> any changes. That said, while there will never be any improvements made to
> OE, security issues will be addressed as lone as XP is supported at the
> very least, but you will need SP3 to get any further OE updates.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>

Tom
Thu May 08 08:43:18 PDT 2008


:
: Please explain, "you'll have to uninstall IE7 first"... I really do not
: understand that part.
:
: --
: Shenan Stanley
: MS-MVP
Shenan:

If you have IE7 installed, you can currently uninstall it and revert back to
IE6. However, when you install SP3, it takes away the ability to uninstall
it and rollback to IE6.

So, MS says, if you want to have the ability to uninstall and revert back to
IE6, you need to uninstall IE7 *before* installing SP3. Then, once SP3 is
installed, you can reinstall IE7 and you will once again have the ability to
uninstall IE7.

Tom

Bob
Thu May 08 08:44:52 PDT 2008

No, the actual issue is that IF I.E. 7 is installed at the time you
install SP3, you cannot UNinstall I.E.7. You would need to UNinstall SP3
first, and then you could uninstall I.E. 7. If you aren't planning to
ever uninstall I.E.7, no biggie.

Saga wrote:
> Wait a second, say that again.
>
> Are you saying that if I have ie7 and SP2 I will have to uninstall IE7 if I want to
> install SP3?
>
> Saga

VanguardLH
Thu May 08 08:48:01 PDT 2008

"Alias" wrote in <news:fvv501$fhk$1@aioe.org>:

> Fred wrote:
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred
>>
>
> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy
> enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7 first.
>
> Alias

SP3 will update whichever version of 6 or 7 of Internet Explorer that
you currently have installed in the instance of Windows XP that is being
updated. There is no need to uninstall Internet Explorer, any version.

Read the overview notes for SP-3. It tells you exactly what it will do
regarding Internet Explorer.

Doug
Thu May 08 08:46:59 PDT 2008

Alias...you are being disingenuous again. the answer is NO. Go
play with your Linux or whatever you play with.
-

"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fvv501$fhk$1@aioe.org...
> Fred wrote:
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred
>>
>>
>
> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're
> foolhardy enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7
> first.
>
> Alias

Big
Thu May 08 09:08:56 PDT 2008

Fred wrote:
> Then I guess if at any time I have to format the HD I would need to use my
> current OEM SP2 disk with IE7/Outlook Express 6. Then install the SP3 from
> the burned DVD.
> Fred
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eWj%23G5RsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
>> news:uFJGfyRsIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>>> Tks, Fred
>>>
>>
>> You're current message headers read:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>
>> After SP3 they will read:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>
>> So, you will have the latest version of OE, but I don't believe there were
>> any changes. That said, while there will never be any improvements made to
>> OE, security issues will be addressed as lone as XP is supported at the
>> very least, but you will need SP3 to get any further OE updates.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>
>
That's just what I did. Loaded my SP2 OEM and applied the SP3 to it
post install. Along with new WU patches. I tried making a CD and
slipstream SP3 into it with my OEM Dell CD, but it did not work.
My suggestion is however, if you want to waste 20 cents on a CD and some
time, I would find a resource for slipstream (and there are a good few
different ones), and apply SP3 to your CD and burn a new one. Then wne
you have to reload, you can try loading it and proofing it. If it
fails, hell, you backed everything up, and you wasted an hour trying to
reload. But no harm.
If it works, you now know you got a better OEM CD to use.

Alias
Thu May 08 09:11:46 PDT 2008

Doug W. wrote:
> Alias...you are being disingenuous again. the answer is NO. Go play with
> your Linux or whatever you play with.

OK, I made a mistake with what I said about IE7 but not the rest. My
bad. Oh, and why don't you go and play with your daddy's dick.

Alias
> -
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fvv501$fhk$1@aioe.org...
>> Fred wrote:
>>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>>> Tks, Fred
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy
>> enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7 first.
>>
>> Alias
>

Shenan
Thu May 08 09:16:39 PDT 2008

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Please explain, "you'll have to uninstall IE7 first"... I really
> do not understand that part.

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> If you have IE7 installed, you can currently uninstall it and
> revert back to IE6. However, when you install SP3, it takes away
> the ability to uninstall it and rollback to IE6.
>
> So, MS says, if you want to have the ability to uninstall and
> revert back to IE6, you need to uninstall IE7 *before* installing
> SP3. Then, once SP3 is installed, you can reinstall IE7 and you
> will once again have the ability to uninstall IE7.

Excellent. Thank you for the explanation, Tom!

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Colin
Thu May 08 09:17:52 PDT 2008

IE7 does not come with XP. It is optional for XP. XP ships with IE6. Your
OEM cd will most likely not have IE7 on it.

"Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
news:eQYIyGSsIHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Then I guess if at any time I have to format the HD I would need to use my
> current OEM SP2 disk with IE7/Outlook Express 6. Then install the SP3
> from the burned DVD.
> Fred
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eWj%23G5RsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
>> news:uFJGfyRsIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>>> Tks, Fred
>>>
>>
>>
>> You're current message headers read:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>
>> After SP3 they will read:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>
>> So, you will have the latest version of OE, but I don't believe there
>> were any changes. That said, while there will never be any improvements
>> made to OE, security issues will be addressed as lone as XP is supported
>> at the very least, but you will need SP3 to get any further OE updates.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>
>

Shenan
Thu May 08 09:33:52 PDT 2008

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Please explain, "you'll have to uninstall IE7 first"... I really
> do not understand that part.

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> If you have IE7 installed, you can currently uninstall it and
> revert back to IE6. However, when you install SP3, it takes away
> the ability to uninstall it and rollback to IE6.
>
> So, MS says, if you want to have the ability to uninstall and
> revert back to IE6, you need to uninstall IE7 *before* installing
> SP3. Then, once SP3 is installed, you can reinstall IE7 and you
> will once again have the ability to uninstall IE7.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Excellent. Thank you for the explanation, Tom!

http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e4057aa8c631/relnotes.htm
I really should read these. ;-)

"Internet Explorer
If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer.

To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta version of Internet
Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP SP3.

If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."

--
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MS-MVP
--
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Shenan
Thu May 08 09:53:09 PDT 2008

FredW wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:33:52 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
> <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Excellent. Thank you for the explanation, Tom!
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e4057aa8c631/relnotes.htm
>> I really should read these. ;-)
>
> IE and Windows XP Service Pack 3:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

Appreciated - but I think the shorter explanation from the official source
is probably good enough for me. ;-)

--
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MS-MVP
--
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Doug
Thu May 08 09:54:03 PDT 2008

OOOHHH...that was not nice.
-

"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fvv8o2$tqd$1@aioe.org...
> Doug W. wrote:
>> Alias...you are being disingenuous again. the answer is NO.
>> Go play with your Linux or whatever you play with.
>
> OK, I made a mistake with what I said about IE7 but not the
> rest. My bad. Oh, and why don't you go and play with your
> daddy's dick.
>
> Alias
>> -
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fvv501$fhk$1@aioe.org...
>>> Fred wrote:
>>>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>>>> Tks, Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're
>>> foolhardy enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall
>>> IE7 first.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>

Frank
Thu May 08 10:38:18 PDT 2008

Alias wrote:
> Fred wrote:
>
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred
>>
>>
>
> No and yes. It also includes a new WPA and WGA. If you're foolhardy
> enough to install SP3, you'll have to uninstall IE7 first.
>
> Alias

You are out of your mind! Or just lying ...as usual.
So now you're gonna have to just use that free POS toy os cause sp3 will
eventually get your thieving as*!
Good! I told you eventually the authorities would get you...LOL!
Frank

Fred
Thu May 08 11:24:42 PDT 2008

Thanks Big All & Colin
Both of my OEM Dells came with SP2 and IE7.
Tks, Fred


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AC876BA5-8418-4050-B7A5-9C5296206783@microsoft.com...
> IE7 does not come with XP. It is optional for XP. XP ships with IE6.
> Your OEM cd will most likely not have IE7 on it.
>
> "Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
> news:eQYIyGSsIHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Then I guess if at any time I have to format the HD I would need to use
>> my current OEM SP2 disk with IE7/Outlook Express 6. Then install the SP3
>> from the burned DVD.
>> Fred
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eWj%23G5RsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uFJGfyRsIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>>>> Tks, Fred
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're current message headers read:
>>>
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>>
>>> After SP3 they will read:
>>>
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>>
>>> So, you will have the latest version of OE, but I don't believe there
>>> were any changes. That said, while there will never be any improvements
>>> made to OE, security issues will be addressed as lone as XP is supported
>>> at the very least, but you will need SP3 to get any further OE updates.
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>
>>
>

PA
Thu May 08 15:43:22 PDT 2008

No.

Fred wrote:
> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
> Tks, Fred

Panic
Fri May 09 09:40:01 PDT 2008

But you can get an ISO version online. Google sp3 iso. Once I downloaded
it I used Nero to burn an ISO CD of it.
Now when I load the CD it automatically comes up with the Install SP3
screen. You have to select ISO in your 3rd party burner program. I first
time I just burned the ISO file... didn't work. The 2nd time I brought up
Nero Burning ROM and selected to burn an ISO CD. That time it worked the
way I wanted.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> No.
>
> Fred wrote:
>> Include the Latest IE7 and Express 6 ?
>> Tks, Fred