Another SP3 upgrade failure and disaster

I'm running a HP P4 with XP Pro SP2. Nothing fancy, just a basic 2005
business machine with only a few application installed on it and all stock
hardware. Never gives any problem. I installed SP3 on it yesterday and
after a (seemingly) normal install, it rebooted and came up with SP3.

Then the problems began. First I noticed that the machine was virtually
nonresponsive taking ages to respond to any command except mouse movement.
Poping up the task manager showed that CPU usage was pegged at near 100
percent. A number of reboots did not fix the problem and other than the CPU
usage and nonresponsiveness, everything appeared normal.

I finally elected to uninstall SP3 and did a System Restore to the point
before the install. After unistalling SP3, system response returned to normal
and CPU usage was back down to about 3 percent. (Interestingly, at this
point the System page shows that the OS is SP2, as you would expect, but if
you go to Add/Remove Programs it shows that SP3 is installed. I didn't risk
trying to remove SP3 there since the system was now running normally again.)

So much for SP3; I'll stay with SP2 for the forseeable future!

Alias
Fri May 09 10:14:26 PDT 2008

TomT wrote:
> I'm running a HP P4 with XP Pro SP2. Nothing fancy, just a basic 2005
> business machine with only a few application installed on it and all stock
> hardware. Never gives any problem. I installed SP3 on it yesterday and
> after a (seemingly) normal install, it rebooted and came up with SP3.
>
> Then the problems began. First I noticed that the machine was virtually
> nonresponsive taking ages to respond to any command except mouse movement.
> Poping up the task manager showed that CPU usage was pegged at near 100
> percent. A number of reboots did not fix the problem and other than the CPU
> usage and nonresponsiveness, everything appeared normal.
>
> I finally elected to uninstall SP3 and did a System Restore to the point
> before the install. After unistalling SP3, system response returned to normal
> and CPU usage was back down to about 3 percent. (Interestingly, at this
> point the System page shows that the OS is SP2, as you would expect, but if
> you go to Add/Remove Programs it shows that SP3 is installed. I didn't risk
> trying to remove SP3 there since the system was now running normally again.)
>
> So much for SP3; I'll stay with SP2 for the forseeable future!

What preparation, if any, did you do for the SP3 install? Did you
disable your AV, all anti malware programs, etc.?

Alias

TomT
Fri May 09 10:56:09 PDT 2008

All running programs were stopped and all virus, malware, and other such
software was also stopped and disabled. Only basic Windows was running when
I did the upgrade. I've had many years of experience at this type of thing
so I'm no neophyte...

"Alias" wrote:> What preparation, if any, did you do for the SP3 install?
Did you
> disable your AV, all anti malware programs, etc.?
>
> Alias

Colin
Fri May 09 11:07:54 PDT 2008

When I encounter a problem with an installation I fall back on clean boot
mode and try again. I haven't had to do that with SP3 yet but other have
and some have had success.

"TomT" <TomT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:578E7395-58E4-4674-8449-5857B176C8F0@microsoft.com...
> All running programs were stopped and all virus, malware, and other such
> software was also stopped and disabled. Only basic Windows was running
> when
> I did the upgrade. I've had many years of experience at this type of
> thing
> so I'm no neophyte...
>
> "Alias" wrote:> What preparation, if any, did you do for the SP3 install?
> Did you
>> disable your AV, all anti malware programs, etc.?
>>
>> Alias
>

TomT
Fri May 09 11:14:09 PDT 2008

I may try that exact tack later but that was not my intent nor did I have
time to do so last night. Rarely have I found it necessary to do a clean
install for a Service Pack nor do I think it should be necessary. I almost
always do that when updating to a new OS, however, but that is a different
situation.

Tom

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> When I encounter a problem with an installation I fall back on clean boot
> mode and try again. I haven't had to do that with SP3 yet but other have
> and some have had success.
>

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Fri May 09 11:21:35 PDT 2008

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TomT wrote:
> I'm running a HP P4 with XP Pro SP2. Nothing fancy, just a basic 2005
> business machine with only a few application installed on it and all stock
> hardware. Never gives any problem. I installed SP3 on it yesterday and
> after a (seemingly) normal install, it rebooted and came up with SP3.
>
> Then the problems began. First I noticed that the machine was virtually
> nonresponsive taking ages to respond to any command except mouse movement.
> Poping up the task manager showed that CPU usage was pegged at near 100
> percent. A number of reboots did not fix the problem and other than the
> CPU
> usage and nonresponsiveness, everything appeared normal.
>
> I finally elected to uninstall SP3 and did a System Restore to the point
> before the install. After unistalling SP3, system response returned to
> normal and CPU usage was back down to about 3 percent. (Interestingly, at
> this point the System page shows that the OS is SP2, as you would expect,
> but if you go to Add/Remove Programs it shows that SP3 is installed. I
> didn't risk trying to remove SP3 there since the system was now running
> normally again.)
>
> So much for SP3; I'll stay with SP2 for the forseeable future!

GisBun
Fri May 09 12:28:00 PDT 2008


You should check with HP's site before installing. There may be some issues
[as there are with AMD systems].

"TomT" wrote:

> I may try that exact tack later but that was not my intent nor did I have
> time to do so last night. Rarely have I found it necessary to do a clean
> install for a Service Pack nor do I think it should be necessary. I almost
> always do that when updating to a new OS, however, but that is a different
> situation.
>
> Tom
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
> > When I encounter a problem with an installation I fall back on clean boot
> > mode and try again. I haven't had to do that with SP3 yet but other have
> > and some have had success.
> >

Patrick
Fri May 09 14:29:41 PDT 2008

"TomT" <TomT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0836756E-AA36-40D9-8B04-CB7C67EB1F20@microsoft.com...
>I may try that exact tack later but that was not my intent nor did I have
> time to do so last night. Rarely have I found it necessary to do a clean
> install for a Service Pack nor do I think it should be necessary. I
> almost
> always do that when updating to a new OS, however, but that is a different
> situation.

You may be confusing "clean boot" with "clean install". They are very
different things.

HTH
-pk

>
> Tom
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> When I encounter a problem with an installation I fall back on clean boot
>> mode and try again. I haven't had to do that with SP3 yet but other have
>> and some have had success.
>>

ANONYMOUS
Fri May 09 14:50:22 PDT 2008

Nobody is saying that you should do a clean install for service pack
May suggest that you boot up your system in safe mode and then try
installing SP3 using downloaded (full-file version) file.

Very few people had trouble installing this latest service pack. I have
now installed in some 500 systems in an academic environment and our
systems didn't have any problems.

hth


TomT wrote:

>I may try that exact tack later but that was not my intent nor did I have
>time to do so last night. Rarely have I found it necessary to do a clean
>install for a Service Pack nor do I think it should be necessary. I almost
>always do that when updating to a new OS, however, but that is a different
>situation.
>
>Tom
>
>"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>
>
>>When I encounter a problem with an installation I fall back on clean boot
>>mode and try again. I haven't had to do that with SP3 yet but other have
>>and some have had success.
>>
>>
>>

TomT
Sat May 10 22:00:00 PDT 2008



I did a clean boot before installing it. I always do for such upgrades.
And I was using the full file version. I'll look in to it further when I
have less pressing matters since the machine is in almost 24/7 use. I've had
about a half dozen people at work report to me a similiar problem to the one
I experienced so far.




"ANONYMOUS" wrote:

> Nobody is saying that you should do a clean install for service pack
> May suggest that you boot up your system in safe mode and then try
> installing SP3 using downloaded (full-file version) file.
>
> Very few people had trouble installing this latest service pack. I have
> now installed in some 500 systems in an academic environment and our
> systems didn't have any problems.
>
> hth
>
>
> TomT wrote:
>
> >I may try that exact tack later but that was not my intent nor did I have
> >time to do so last night. Rarely have I found it necessary to do a clean
> >install for a Service Pack nor do I think it should be necessary. I almost
> >always do that when updating to a new OS, however, but that is a different
> >situation.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>When I encounter a problem with an installation I fall back on clean boot
> >>mode and try again. I haven't had to do that with SP3 yet but other have
> >>and some have had success.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>