Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem? Any advice
Thank you in advance Larry

Re: win xp sp3 by Mike

Mike
Wed May 14 08:57:51 PDT 2008

520MB?!! Don't even think about it with less than 2GB

"Larry" <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2EBB2D16-7A92-412C-AF54-01F660D0E70B@microsoft.com...
> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows
> updated
> it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my
> desktop,
> or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84%
> available.
> The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem? Any advice
> Thank you in advance Larry



Re: win xp sp3 by PA

PA
Wed May 14 08:57:40 PDT 2008

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Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
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--
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Larry wrote:
> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows
> updated
> it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my
> desktop,
> or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84%
> available.
> The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem? Any advice
> Thank you in advance Larry


Re: win xp sp3 by Tom

Tom
Wed May 14 09:04:07 PDT 2008

Horse Hockey!!!

"Mike" <mike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23eAwFtdtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: 520MB?!! Don't even think about it with less than 2GB
:
:



Re: win xp sp3 by Ken

Ken
Wed May 14 09:29:11 PDT 2008

On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
<Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?



Several points:

1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
wasted.

Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.

2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
booting?

3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Wed May 14 10:05:16 PDT 2008

Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
of possible infections. I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
with 84% free Larry

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
>
>
>
> Several points:
>
> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> wasted.
>
> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
>
> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> booting?
>
> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Re: win xp sp3 by Ken

Ken
Wed May 14 15:28:36 PDT 2008

On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
<Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> of possible infections.



That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
are still infected.

I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
your best course.


> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> with 84% free Larry
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> >
> >
> >
> > Several points:
> >
> > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > wasted.
> >
> > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> >
> > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > booting?
> >
> > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Wed May 14 16:56:03 PDT 2008

Ken Those items that AVG picked up, Those were warnings of possably harmful
threats. Were these really viruses???????

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> > to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> > every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> > each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> > AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> > of possible infections.
>
>
>
> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> are still infected.
>
> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> your best course.
>
>
> > I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> > know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> > spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> > will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> > use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> > with 84% free Larry
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Several points:
> > >
> > > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > > wasted.
> > >
> > > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> > >
> > > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > > booting?
> > >
> > > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Wed May 14 17:05:00 PDT 2008

Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent the log
file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little while ago,
this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> > to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> > every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> > each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> > AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> > of possible infections.
>
>
>
> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> are still infected.
>
> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> your best course.
>
>
> > I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> > know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> > spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> > will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> > use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> > with 84% free Larry
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Several points:
> > >
> > > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > > wasted.
> > >
> > > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> > >
> > > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > > booting?
> > >
> > > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Re: win xp sp3 by Ken

Ken
Wed May 14 17:18:47 PDT 2008

On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:56:03 -0700, Larry
<Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Ken Those items that AVG picked up, Those were warnings of possably harmful
> threats. Were these really viruses???????


I haven't seen the report AVG generated, so I have no way of knowing
the answer to that question. Nevertheless that's an enormous number;
if 90% of them were false positives and only 10% were real, 245
infections is still an enormous number.

Do you remember anything about what they were? If they were all just
cookies, for example, I wouldn't worry about it. Most other things
should be taken seriously.


> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> > > to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> > > every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> > > each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> > > AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> > > of possible infections.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> > an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> > are still infected.
> >
> > I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> > clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> > your best course.
> >
> >
> > > I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> > > know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> > > spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> > > will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> > > use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> > > with 84% free Larry
> > >
> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Several points:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > > > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > > > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > > > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > > > wasted.
> > > >
> > > > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > > > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > > > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > > > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > > > booting?
> > > >
> > > > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > > > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > > > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > > > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > > > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > > > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > > > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Wed May 14 17:34:01 PDT 2008

Hey Ken; if I remenber right all but 1 were tracking cookies, the one was a
virus and AVG removed all of them. I don't know if I'm dealing with a ram
problem, a virus problem, but somthing is eating ram and CPU, most of the
time I only have 36% available of CPU until I do a memory cleaning with
advanced windows care v-2 personnel

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:56:03 -0700, Larry
> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Ken Those items that AVG picked up, Those were warnings of possably harmful
> > threats. Were these really viruses???????
>
>
> I haven't seen the report AVG generated, so I have no way of knowing
> the answer to that question. Nevertheless that's an enormous number;
> if 90% of them were false positives and only 10% were real, 245
> infections is still an enormous number.
>
> Do you remember anything about what they were? If they were all just
> cookies, for example, I wouldn't worry about it. Most other things
> should be taken seriously.
>
>
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> > > > to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> > > > every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> > > > each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> > > > AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> > > > of possible infections.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> > > an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> > > are still infected.
> > >
> > > I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> > > clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> > > your best course.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> > > > know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> > > > spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> > > > will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> > > > use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> > > > with 84% free Larry
> > > >
> > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > > > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > > > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > > > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > > > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Several points:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > > > > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > > > > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > > > > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > > > > wasted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > > > > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > > > > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > > > > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > > > > booting?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > > > > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > > > > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > > > > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > > > > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > > > > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > > > > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Re: win xp sp3 by Ken

Ken
Wed May 14 18:05:33 PDT 2008


On Wed, 14 May 2008 17:34:01 -0700, Larry
<Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hey Ken; if I remenber right all but 1 were tracking cookies,


OK, I wish you had said that earlier. In that case, disregard my
earlier comment. Certainly don't reformat and reinstall for a bunch of
tracking cookies.


> the one was a
> virus and AVG removed all of them.


OK.


> I don't know if I'm dealing with a ram
> problem,



You mean defective RAM? Unlikely.


> a virus problem,


Probably not. You mentioned AVG as your anti-virus program, but I
don't remember your saying anything about anti-spyware software.
Unless you have good anti-spyware protection, that's the next thing I
would suspect.


> but somthing is eating ram


"Eating RAM," as you call is not any problem at all. See my earlier
comment about this, quoted below.


> and CPU, most of the
> time I only have 36% available of CPU until I do a memory cleaning with
> advanced windows care v-2 personnel


Ugh! Products like this are all snake oil and if you are using this,
it wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be the cause of your
problems. I see that it includes a registry cleaner. Here's my
standard advice on registry cleaners:

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.



>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:56:03 -0700, Larry
> > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ken Those items that AVG picked up, Those were warnings of possably harmful
> > > threats. Were these really viruses???????
> >
> >
> > I haven't seen the report AVG generated, so I have no way of knowing
> > the answer to that question. Nevertheless that's an enormous number;
> > if 90% of them were false positives and only 10% were real, 245
> > infections is still an enormous number.
> >
> > Do you remember anything about what they were? If they were all just
> > cookies, for example, I wouldn't worry about it. Most other things
> > should be taken seriously.
> >
> >
> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> > > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> > > > > to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> > > > > every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> > > > > each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> > > > > AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> > > > > of possible infections.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> > > > an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> > > > are still infected.
> > > >
> > > > I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> > > > clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> > > > your best course.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> > > > > know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> > > > > spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> > > > > will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> > > > > use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> > > > > with 84% free Larry
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > > > > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > > > > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > > > > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > > > > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Several points:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > > > > > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > > > > > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > > > > > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > > > > > wasted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > > > > > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > > > > > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > > > > > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > > > > > booting?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > > > > > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > > > > > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > > > > > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > > > > > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > > > > > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > > > > > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: win xp sp3 by PA

PA
Thu May 15 01:02:24 PDT 2008

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is
>> slow
>> to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
>> every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I
>> use
>> each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I
>> downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was
>> 24568 warnings of possible infections.
>
> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> are still infected...

AVG 8.0 now includes the functionality (but not the UI) of AVG Anti-Spyware
(FKA Ewido), Ken, so I'm not suprised that it's finding more. (Then again,
who knows what, if any, AV app OP had installed before installing AVG 8.0?)

Chances are that a majority of these "infections" were in old System Restore
points which pose no threat as long as user doesn't use any of them.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Re: win xp sp3 by PA

PA
Thu May 15 01:02:45 PDT 2008

Please post a link to your thread, Larry.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Larry wrote:
> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent the log
> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little while
> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is
>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I
>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2
>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of
>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the
>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
>> are still infected.
>>
>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
>> your best course.
>>
>>
>>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
>>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all
>>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox,
>>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.)
>>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's
>>> my
>>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry
>>>
>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows
>>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to
>>>>> reach
>>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still
>>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the
>>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Several points:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
>>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
>>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
>>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
>>>> wasted.
>>>>
>>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
>>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
>>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
>>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
>>>> booting?
>>>>
>>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
>>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
>>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
>>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
>>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
>>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
>>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup


Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Thu May 15 07:19:05 PDT 2008

Hi Ken I did have ( all shareware or freeware) Spy-bot S+D, Adahware 7.0,
and ran several online scaning programs. Currently I still have spy-bot.

So you recommend losing the Advanced window cleaner software. I can do that.

What I mean by saying eating ram is, do I have enough of it, according to a
previous post you say yes, than I must ask why do I have such low CPU all the
time.

I will delete Advanced windows after this post. Larry

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 17:34:01 -0700, Larry
> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Ken; if I remenber right all but 1 were tracking cookies,
>
>
> OK, I wish you had said that earlier. In that case, disregard my
> earlier comment. Certainly don't reformat and reinstall for a bunch of
> tracking cookies.
>
>
> > the one was a
> > virus and AVG removed all of them.
>
>
> OK.
>
>
> > I don't know if I'm dealing with a ram
> > problem,
>
>
>
> You mean defective RAM? Unlikely.
>
>
> > a virus problem,
>
>
> Probably not. You mentioned AVG as your anti-virus program, but I
> don't remember your saying anything about anti-spyware software.
> Unless you have good anti-spyware protection, that's the next thing I
> would suspect.
>
>
> > but somthing is eating ram
>
>
> "Eating RAM," as you call is not any problem at all. See my earlier
> comment about this, quoted below.
>
>
> > and CPU, most of the
> > time I only have 36% available of CPU until I do a memory cleaning with
> > advanced windows care v-2 personnel
>
>
> Ugh! Products like this are all snake oil and if you are using this,
> it wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be the cause of your
> problems. I see that it includes a registry cleaner. Here's my
> standard advice on registry cleaners:
>
> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
>
> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
> it may have.
>
>
>
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:56:03 -0700, Larry
> > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ken Those items that AVG picked up, Those were warnings of possably harmful
> > > > threats. Were these really viruses???????
> > >
> > >
> > > I haven't seen the report AVG generated, so I have no way of knowing
> > > the answer to that question. Nevertheless that's an enormous number;
> > > if 90% of them were false positives and only 10% were real, 245
> > > infections is still an enormous number.
> > >
> > > Do you remember anything about what they were? If they were all just
> > > cookies, for example, I wouldn't worry about it. Most other things
> > > should be taken seriously.
> > >
> > >
> > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> > > > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow
> > > > > > to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag
> > > > > > every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use
> > > > > > each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded
> > > > > > AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings
> > > > > > of possible infections.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> > > > > an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> > > > > are still infected.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> > > > > clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> > > > > your best course.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> > > > > > know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that
> > > > > > spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a
> > > > > > will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I
> > > > > > use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb
> > > > > > with 84% free Larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> > > > > > > <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows updated
> > > > > > > > it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to reach my desktop,
> > > > > > > > or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still have 84% available.
> > > > > > > > The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the problem?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Several points:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> > > > > > > counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> > > > > > > your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> > > > > > > wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> > > > > > > wasted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> > > > > > > time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> > > > > > > part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> > > > > > > this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> > > > > > > booting?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> > > > > > > For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> > > > > > > performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> > > > > > > performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> > > > > > > page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> > > > > > > a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> > > > > > > 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > > > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Thu May 15 07:23:01 PDT 2008

I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and how do you
post one. Larry

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Larry wrote:
> > Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent the log
> > file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little while
> > ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> >> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is
> >>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I
> >>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2
> >>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of
> >>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the
> >>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> >> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> >> are still infected.
> >>
> >> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> >> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> >> your best course.
> >>
> >>
> >>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> >>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all
> >>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox,
> >>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.)
> >>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's
> >>> my
> >>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry
> >>>
> >>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> >>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows
> >>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to
> >>>>> reach
> >>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still
> >>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the
> >>>>> problem?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Several points:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> >>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> >>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> >>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it
> >>>> wasted.
> >>>>
> >>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> >>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
> >>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> >>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> >>>> booting?
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> >>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> >>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> >>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> >>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> >>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> >>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>

Re: win xp sp3 by PA

PA
Thu May 15 09:23:02 PDT 2008

A link is the URL (http://......) that's displayed in Address Bar when
you've opened your forum thread.

Larry wrote:
> I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and how do
> you
> post one. Larry
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent the
>>> log
>>> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little while
>>> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry
>>>
>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is
>>>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I
>>>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2
>>>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of
>>>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour
>>>>> the
>>>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
>>>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
>>>> are still infected.
>>>>
>>>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
>>>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
>>>> your best course.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
>>>>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing
>>>>> all
>>>>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox,
>>>>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a geneology
>>>>> app.)
>>>>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's
>>>>> my
>>>>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows
>>>>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to
>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still
>>>>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the
>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Several points:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
>>>>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
>>>>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
>>>>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
>>>>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
>>>>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
>>>>>> booting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
>>>>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
>>>>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
>>>>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
>>>>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
>>>>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
>>>>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup


Re: win xp sp3 by Larry

Larry
Thu May 15 09:48:00 PDT 2008


Pa Bear Here is the link you requested

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&mid=2ebb2d16-7a92-412c-af54-01f660d0e70b



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> A link is the URL (http://......) that's displayed in Address Bar when
> you've opened your forum thread.
>
> Larry wrote:
> > I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and how do
> > you
> > post one. Larry
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> >>
> >> Larry wrote:
> >>> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent the
> >>> log
> >>> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little while
> >>> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry
> >>>
> >>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
> >>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is
> >>>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I
> >>>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2
> >>>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of
> >>>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
> >>>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
> >>>> are still infected.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
> >>>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's likely
> >>>> your best course.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't
> >>>>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox,
> >>>>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a geneology
> >>>>> app.)
> >>>>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry
> >>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since windows
> >>>>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes to
> >>>>>>> reach
> >>>>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I still
> >>>>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this might the
> >>>>>>> problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Several points:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
> >>>>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most, of
> >>>>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
> >>>>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> wasted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
> >>>>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
> >>>>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after
> >>>>>> booting?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean 512MB.
> >>>>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good
> >>>>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good
> >>>>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the
> >>>>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running
> >>>>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere around
> >>>>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>

Re: win xp sp3 by PA

PA
Thu May 15 09:56:21 PDT 2008

Close but no cigar. That's a link to THIS thread. I'm asking for a link to
your thread at http://forums.techguy.org.

Larry wrote:
> Pa Bear Here is the link you requested
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&mid=2ebb2d16-7a92-412c-af54-01f660d0e70b
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> A link is the URL (http://......) that's displayed in Address Bar when
>> you've opened your forum thread.
>>
>> Larry wrote:
>>> I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and how do
>>> you
>>> post one. Larry
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>
>>>> Larry wrote:
>>>>> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent the
>>>>> log
>>>>> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little
>>>>> while
>>>>> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry
>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2
>>>>>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected, there's
>>>>>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and you
>>>>>> are still infected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and
>>>>>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's