XP SP3 update only on one computer

I have two computer running XP Pro SP2.
One one I now get offer of SP3 update.
But not on the other. Why is that?

I have checked registry for blockers and
policies, but can't find any differences.

Problem for me is that I'd like to try
SP3 on the system that is NOT offered it.

How do I make the SP3 offer appear?
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MowGreen
Tue May 06 11:41:19 PDT 2008

It's available here, Lars-Erik:

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
Professionals and Developers
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en

The only public reason for it not being offered to certain systems:

> Note: Customers running Microsoft Dynamics Retail Management System (RMS) are advised to install a
> hotfix for a Microsoft Dynamics RMS issue prior to installing Windows XP SP3.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:

> I have two computer running XP Pro SP2.
> One one I now get offer of SP3 update.
> But not on the other. Why is that?
>
> I have checked registry for blockers and
> policies, but can't find any differences.
>
> Problem for me is that I'd like to try
> SP3 on the system that is NOT offered it.
>
> How do I make the SP3 offer appear?

Kjell
Tue May 06 11:55:27 PDT 2008

Well, is it really available there? I only get a 404 when clicking the
download button on the page your link takes me to.

I am being offered SP3 from Windows Update for all four computers I am about
to update, but would like a clean install using a slipstreamed XP3 to
improve the performance of the computers.

--
Kjell
"Perfection cannot be hurried"

"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:#DRiGj6rIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It's available here, Lars-Erik:
>
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
> Professionals and Developers
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en
>
> The only public reason for it not being offered to certain systems:
>
>> Note: Customers running Microsoft Dynamics Retail Management System (RMS)
>> are advised to install a hotfix for a Microsoft Dynamics RMS issue prior
>> to installing Windows XP SP3.
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
> Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:
>
>> I have two computer running XP Pro SP2.
>> One one I now get offer of SP3 update.
>> But not on the other. Why is that?
>>
>> I have checked registry for blockers and
>> policies, but can't find any differences.
>>
>> Problem for me is that I'd like to try SP3 on the system that is NOT
>> offered it.
>>
>> How do I make the SP3 offer appear?

Lars-Erik
Tue May 06 13:00:25 PDT 2008

MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

> It's available here, Lars-Erik:
>
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
> Professionals and Developers
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en

Is this an exacutable you can run from a CD?

Should I extract it before burning to a CD
(to save space/time and temp files on PC)?

or is there a special CD image somewhere?
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ANONYMOUS
Tue May 06 13:25:11 PDT 2008

YES there is a special CD Image here:

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2FCDE6CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en>

hth

Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:

>MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
>
>
>
>>It's available here, Lars-Erik:
>>
>>Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
>>Professionals and Developers
>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en
>>
>>
>
>Is this an exacutable you can run from a CD?
>
>Should I extract it before burning to a CD
>(to save space/time and temp files on PC)?
>
>or is there a special CD image somewhere?
>
>

Big
Tue May 06 13:36:13 PDT 2008

Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:
> MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
>
>> It's available here, Lars-Erik:
>>
>> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
>> Professionals and Developers
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en
>
> Is this an exacutable you can run from a CD?
>
> Should I extract it before burning to a CD
> (to save space/time and temp files on PC)?
>
> or is there a special CD image somewhere?
If you download the .exe file you can simply put it on a CD for backup
and if you don't think it will run from the cd, then copy it to the HD,
then run. The .exe file does nothing but unpack itself to a temp
folder, install, and then removes the temp folder. Leaving the .exe
still there and you can delete it.

Colin
Tue May 06 13:35:31 PDT 2008

It is an executable. It is the "standalone" SP3 package.

It is also what you would use when slipstreaming with an XP SP1 or SP2 cd to
create an integrated XP SP3 installation cd.

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
news:ODTpSP7rIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
>
>> It's available here, Lars-Erik:
>>
>> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
>> Professionals and Developers
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en
>
> Is this an exacutable you can run from a CD?
>
> Should I extract it before burning to a CD
> (to save space/time and temp files on PC)?
>
> or is there a special CD image somewhere?
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://www.osterud.name - ICQ 7297605

realcestmoi
Tue May 06 13:48:48 PDT 2008

Hi there,

Yes it is, just checked and possible to download with Mozilla firefox, IE 6
and even flashget.

Best regards,
Michel Denie

"Kjell B." <homebell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:A754FEB6-4ADF-471C-8734-09A09F2D70E1@microsoft.com...
> Well, is it really available there? I only get a 404 when clicking the
> download button on the page your link takes me to.
>
> I am being offered SP3 from Windows Update for all four computers I am
> about to update, but would like a clean install using a slipstreamed XP3
> to improve the performance of the computers.
>
> --
> Kjell
> "Perfection cannot be hurried"
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
> news:#DRiGj6rIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> It's available here, Lars-Erik:
>>
>> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT
>> Professionals and Developers
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> The only public reason for it not being offered to certain systems:
>>
>>> Note: Customers running Microsoft Dynamics Retail Management System
>>> (RMS) are advised to install a hotfix for a Microsoft Dynamics RMS issue
>>> prior to installing Windows XP SP3.
>>
>>
>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
>> ===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ===============
>>
>>
>> Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:
>>
>>> I have two computer running XP Pro SP2.
>>> One one I now get offer of SP3 update.
>>> But not on the other. Why is that?
>>>
>>> I have checked registry for blockers and
>>> policies, but can't find any differences.
>>>
>>> Problem for me is that I'd like to try SP3 on the system that is NOT
>>> offered it.
>>>
>>> How do I make the SP3 offer appear?
>

Lars-Erik
Tue May 06 13:59:40 PDT 2008

ANONYMOUS wrote:

> YES there is a special CD Image here:
>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2FCDE6CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en>

Hey. That even worked (the redistributable .EXE file doesn't work)
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ANONYMOUS
Tue May 06 14:05:32 PDT 2008




Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:

>Hey. That even worked (the redistributable .EXE file doesn't work)
>
>

The exe file link is quite busy today for obvious reasons! SP3 just
came out today [officially] and also people have started Windows update
and can you imagine about 1 billion systems all hitting Microsoft sites
at the same time!!

hth

Lars-Erik
Tue May 06 14:47:48 PDT 2008

ANONYMOUS wrote:

> YES there is a special CD Image here:
>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2FCDE6CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en>

Burned it, and tried to install it. About 75% done extracting it says
that "file is corupt" and aborts the installation. That's Microsoft.

Why do they put out a CD image that is corrupt?
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Lars-Erik
Tue May 06 14:51:22 PDT 2008

Addition info about currupt CD image.

Tried copying it from the CD to the disk.
CD is OK, copting went OK.
Still crashes suring install.

Error is: File is corrupt
File name: i386\wldap32.dl_

What now ??????????????????
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Harry
Tue May 06 15:24:44 PDT 2008

Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:

> Burned it, and tried to install it. About 75% done extracting it says
> that "file is corupt" and aborts the installation. That's Microsoft.

It worked for me, though admittedly I downloaded the ISO from technet rather
than the download center.

The CD might be faulty, or the download may have glitched, or there could be a
problem with the system you're trying to install it on. Look in
WindowsUpdate.log and svcpack.log for any error messages that might shed light
on the specific issue.

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/>

Harry.

Lars-Erik
Tue May 06 15:51:58 PDT 2008

Harry Johnston [MVP] wrote:

> The CD might be faulty, or the download may have glitched, or there could be a
> problem with the system you're trying to install it on. Look in

I verified the CD, no problem.

I also downloaded the EXE-file (finally I got through)
and that installed OK. But when I compared that with
the one on the CD they have some bytes difference.

Should they be equal (could I replace the one one the
CD with the separate EXE I downloaded to make a CD
with a working SP3, or is the EXE on the CD different).

I'll try downloading the ISO once more and compare
with the first one I downloaded (and with the written
CD if I find a program that can do such a compare)
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John
Tue May 06 16:43:17 PDT 2008


"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
news:uTlfTL8rIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> ANONYMOUS wrote:
>
>> YES there is a special CD Image here:
>>
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2FCDE6CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en>
>
> Burned it, and tried to install it. About 75% done extracting it says
> that "file is corupt" and aborts the installation. That's Microsoft.
>
> Why do they put out a CD image that is corrupt?
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://www.osterud.name - ICQ 7297605

Bad download?
Bad burn?
Scratched CD?

Lars-Erik
Tue May 06 17:21:25 PDT 2008

John wrote:

> > Why do they put out a CD image that is corrupt?

> Bad download?

Definitly bad download, but I have NEVER experienced that before

I check by doing the following :-)

1) Downloaded the ISO-image again (3 timer to be sure)
2) Compared with FC /b against the original one that has error
3) Result. Difference: 0EAEF7F9: A4 B4

Then I tried comparing the EXE-file downloaded
to the EXE file on the CD burned from the image:

Result. Difference: 0E9A6FF9: A4 B4

So it seems like ONE BYTE was bad on the first ISO
download, and that that byte was in the SP3 EXE file.

How is that possible? Isn't there things that should
prevent bad transfers? Or is there a bad file at MS?
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Colin
Tue May 06 17:44:18 PDT 2008

No, they will not be the same size. The installed service pack is, but not
the delivery package. Reduce the burn speed.

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
news:%23THgKv8rIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Harry Johnston [MVP] wrote:
>
>> The CD might be faulty, or the download may have glitched, or there could
>> be a
>> problem with the system you're trying to install it on. Look in
>
> I verified the CD, no problem.
>
> I also downloaded the EXE-file (finally I got through)
> and that installed OK. But when I compared that with
> the one on the CD they have some bytes difference.
>
> Should they be equal (could I replace the one one the
> CD with the separate EXE I downloaded to make a CD
> with a working SP3, or is the EXE on the CD different).
>
> I'll try downloading the ISO once more and compare
> with the first one I downloaded (and with the written
> CD if I find a program that can do such a compare)
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://www.osterud.name - ICQ 7297605

Colin
Tue May 06 17:44:48 PDT 2008

Burn at the slowest speed you can.

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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> Addition info about currupt CD image.
>
> Tried copying it from the CD to the disk.
> CD is OK, copting went OK.
> Still crashes suring install.
>
> Error is: File is corrupt
> File name: i386\wldap32.dl_
>
> What now ??????????????????
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://www.osterud.name - ICQ 7297605

Harry
Tue May 06 18:01:54 PDT 2008

Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:

> Definitly bad download, but I have NEVER experienced that before

Thanks for letting us know.

> 3) Result. Difference: 0EAEF7F9: A4 B4
[...]
> So it seems like ONE BYTE was bad on the first ISO
> download, and that that byte was in the SP3 EXE file.

Actually just one bit. :-)

> How is that possible? Isn't there things that should
> prevent bad transfers? Or is there a bad file at MS?

Since there are multiple physical servers one of them might have a bad copy. It
could also have been a hardware glitch either at the server or at your end,
either due to a fault, an external factor such as a cosmic ray, or just a random
failure. (Theoretically it could also have gotten damaged en route but this is
much less likely as the data packets are checksummed.)

Harry.

ANONYMOUS
Wed May 07 11:48:16 PDT 2008



Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:

>Burned it, and tried to install it. About 75% done extracting it says
>that "file is corupt" and aborts the installation. That's Microsoft.
>
>Why do they put out a CD image that is corrupt?
>
>

No it is not Microsoft but your HD. When you install from the CD, the
files are EXTRACTED to your HD and then installation takes place from
your HD not from the CD. So I can only say that your HD is beginning to
wear out in which case it is time to backup your DATA and do diagnostic
test on the HD. Intallation does not take place from the CD once the
files are copied to your HD.

hope this helps

Lars-Erik
Wed May 07 15:00:26 PDT 2008

ANONYMOUS wrote:

> No it is not Microsoft but your HD. When you install from the CD, the
> files are EXTRACTED to your HD and then installation takes place from

The error was in the ISO-file BEFORE I burned the CD
(the downloaded ISO, I compared with a new download).

And an error on my HDD while downloading would give a CRC error
(I have had HDDs with errors before - I now how that is :-)))))

The disk is also brand new and har no errors.

I redowloaded the file, and compared (several times). No error.

I'd say that either it happened during transmission or a faulty image.
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