I have just installed Vista SP1. On re booting I can only get as far as the
'Welcome' screen, the screen then goes black with a white mouse pointer. I
have reinstalled my graphics driver but no change.
I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give.

Re: Non booting after SP1 install by Carey

Carey
Thu Mar 27 12:45:38 PDT 2008

Free SP1 technical support from Microsoft:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=8&y=7&prid=11274&gprid=500921

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

---------------------------------------------------------------

"Eric" wrote:

I have just installed Vista SP1. On re booting I can only get as far as the
'Welcome' screen, the screen then goes black with a white mouse pointer. I
have reinstalled my graphics driver but no change.
I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give.

Re: Non booting after SP1 install by eric

eric
Fri Mar 28 03:58:01 PDT 2008

Hi Carey - tried the 'Help' department but they weren't much help as I am in
the U.K., they just gave me a U.K. phone number. This was of little use since
they refused help on the basis that my software package is OEM and I am not a
'registered builder', apparently this means I don't get help even though my
machine was working perfectly until I installed SP1. I can't even restore my
machine to pre-SP1 as the restore dates in System Restore begin with the
installation of SP1 (I am able to boot up in 'Safe Mode').

I would also like to add that I am outraged by Microsoft's cavalier manner,
for the last 15 or 20 years I have always defended Microsoft against the many
mudslingers but today I am joining them!

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Free SP1 technical support from Microsoft:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=8&y=7&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows System & Performance
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Eric" wrote:
>
> I have just installed Vista SP1. On re booting I can only get as far as the
> 'Welcome' screen, the screen then goes black with a white mouse pointer. I
> have reinstalled my graphics driver but no change.
> I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give.

Re: Non booting after SP1 install by ato_zee

ato_zee
Fri Mar 28 08:38:41 PDT 2008

> apparently this means I don't get help even though my
> machine was working perfectly until I installed SP1. I can't even restore
> my
> machine to pre-SP1 as the restore dates in System Restore begin with the
> installation of SP1 (I am able to boot up in 'Safe Mode').
>
> I would also like to add that I am outraged by Microsoft's cavalier
> manner,
> for the last 15 or 20 years I have always defended Microsoft against the
> many
> mudslingers but today I am joining them!

Also in the UK I concur with your opinion of MS, after all it isn't
as if you haven't paid for the OS, its cost was included in the
system price, and you are a legitimate licenced user.
We now need to know if you have an original authentic MS
OEM disk, a restore partition, or restore optical media.
If you have any of these then restore/repair is your best
option, you will however need to save any personal,
non-OS data files you want to save.
This may be possible from safe mode, or using one of
the standalone backup utilities that run off optical media.

Re: Non booting after SP1 install by eric

eric
Fri Mar 28 12:22:01 PDT 2008

Hi, and thanks for the comments. Yes it is an original authentic MS OEM disk.
I will explain how I came by it. My original system had 'XP' installed on it
and I later decided to join the 'Vista brigade' and bought a 'Vista' upgrade
package. When the beta version of SP1 came out a few weeks ago I tried
installing it and everything went pear-shaped. I contacted MS who told me
that I could not get support because I now had an upgrade pack and not the
original pack that came with my machine and they would only help if I had a
'full' package. I decided that if I had to reformat my hard drive to install
a full pack I may as well buy more RAM and a larger hard drive while I was at
it, I was told that this would make me eligable to legitimately buy the OEM
pack. I have now come to the conclusion that MS are like insurance companies
and have a let-out clause for every conceivable situation.

On the lighter side, out of sheer desperation more than anything I did some
repeated restore/repair's and I now appear to be back to a slow but
never-the-less working pre SP1 system and that's where I intend staying until
perhaps I get around to something that will release me from the clutches of
Microsoft, Linux maybe?

Regards

"ato_zee@hotmail.com" wrote:

> > apparently this means I don't get help even though my
> > machine was working perfectly until I installed SP1. I can't even restore
> > my
> > machine to pre-SP1 as the restore dates in System Restore begin with the
> > installation of SP1 (I am able to boot up in 'Safe Mode').
> >
> > I would also like to add that I am outraged by Microsoft's cavalier
> > manner,
> > for the last 15 or 20 years I have always defended Microsoft against the
> > many
> > mudslingers but today I am joining them!
>
> Also in the UK I concur with your opinion of MS, after all it isn't
> as if you haven't paid for the OS, its cost was included in the
> system price, and you are a legitimate licenced user.
> We now need to know if you have an original authentic MS
> OEM disk, a restore partition, or restore optical media.
> If you have any of these then restore/repair is your best
> option, you will however need to save any personal,
> non-OS data files you want to save.
> This may be possible from safe mode, or using one of
> the standalone backup utilities that run off optical media.
>

Re: Non booting after SP1 install by ato_zee

ato_zee
Fri Mar 28 13:23:48 PDT 2008


> I have now come to the conclusion that MS are like insurance companies
> and have a let-out clause for every conceivable situation.

So is it, in spite of paying for your OS, it's a case of because it's OEM,
then it's two fingers if you want support, we've got your money,
don't bother us anymore?
If so I can quite see why everyone is trying to get out of the
clutches of MS.

Re: Non booting after SP1 install by TaurArian

TaurArian
Fri Mar 28 15:01:14 PDT 2008

See if anything here is relevant:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946400/en-us

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"Eric" <eric@firstnamesdirect.co.uk> wrote in message
news:FD049D30-B5BA-4206-8054-B1196F6CE7EC@microsoft.com...
|I have just installed Vista SP1. On re booting I can only get as far as the
| 'Welcome' screen, the screen then goes black with a white mouse pointer. I
| have reinstalled my graphics driver but no change.
| I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give.



Re: Non booting after SP1 install by PA

PA
Fri Mar 28 14:15:20 PDT 2008

That's flat out wrong! Call back and quote the page, pointing out that no
limitations or restrictions are found.

Assuming you've Allowed cookies for microsoft.com and you're located in the
UK, https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527 should present
you the Email Support option.

And/or use the link under "Need More Help?" in top-right of
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Eric wrote:
> Hi Carey - tried the 'Help' department but they weren't much help as I am
> in
> the U.K., they just gave me a U.K. phone number. This was of little use
> since they refused help on the basis that my software package is OEM and I
> am not a 'registered builder', apparently this means I don't get help even
> though my machine was working perfectly until I installed SP1. I can't
> even
> restore my machine to pre-SP1 as the restore dates in System Restore begin
> with the installation of SP1 (I am able to boot up in 'Safe Mode').
>
> I would also like to add that I am outraged by Microsoft's cavalier
> manner,
> for the last 15 or 20 years I have always defended Microsoft against the
> many mudslingers but today I am joining them!
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Free SP1 technical support from Microsoft:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=8&y=7&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>>
>> "Eric" wrote:
>> I have just installed Vista SP1. On re booting I can only get as far as
>> the
>> 'Welcome' screen, the screen then goes black with a white mouse pointer.
>> I
>> have reinstalled my graphics driver but no change.
>> I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give.


Re: Non booting after SP1 install by PA

PA
Fri Mar 28 17:42:03 PDT 2008

*Correction*: You have unlimited and free E-mail (not Phone) Support in the
UK for SP1 installation and compatibility problems:

"Get free help updating with SP1"
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/sp1.mspx

<QP>
Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (All Languages)
Unlimited installation and compatibility support is available at no charge
until March 18, 2009.

E-mail Support
No-charge: Unlimited support requests.
</QP>
Source:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11274&gprid=500921
--
~PA Bear


PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> That's flat out wrong! Call back and quote the page, pointing out that no
> limitations or restrictions are found.
>
> Assuming you've Allowed cookies for microsoft.com and you're located in
> the
> UK, https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527 should
> present
> you the Email Support option.
>
> And/or use the link under "Need More Help?" in top-right of
> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
>
> Eric wrote:
>> Hi Carey - tried the 'Help' department but they weren't much help as I am
>> in
>> the U.K., they just gave me a U.K. phone number. This was of little use
>> since they refused help on the basis that my software package is OEM and
>> I
>> am not a 'registered builder', apparently this means I don't get help
>> even
>> though my machine was working perfectly until I installed SP1. I can't
>> even
>> restore my machine to pre-SP1 as the restore dates in System Restore
>> begin
>> with the installation of SP1 (I am able to boot up in 'Safe Mode').
>>
>> I would also like to add that I am outraged by Microsoft's cavalier
>> manner,
>> for the last 15 or 20 years I have always defended Microsoft against the
>> many mudslingers but today I am joining them!
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> Free SP1 technical support from Microsoft:
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=8&y=7&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>>>
>>> "Eric" wrote:
>>> I have just installed Vista SP1. On re booting I can only get as far as
>>> the
>>> 'Welcome' screen, the screen then goes black with a white mouse pointer.
>>> I
>>> have reinstalled my graphics driver but no change.
>>> I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give.