How does Licensing Work

I am curious about how the licensing works.

I have a server that is running Windows Server 2003 and MSSql Server
2000. We have five user machines running XP. If I understand
correctly, Win2003 and MSSql come with 5 Client licenses. What if I
need to add another user? We don't use Active Directory are anything
like that. We are only using the server to host the database that our
application connects to.

So, if I need to add a sixth user, do I need more licenses for Win
2003 AND MSSql?

And what about Terminal Services? I am thinking maybe of moving our
users over to Linux/Mac computers and having them access that one
application via TS. How does that work in regards to licenses? And
do I really need to setup another Windows 2003 machine to host the TS
License Server?????

Thanks.
Griff

AllenM
Wed Apr 30 10:17:53 PDT 2008

You either need User CAL's or Device CAL's. Basically you need a license for
every user and or device that "authenticates" to your domain.


"Griff5w" <griff5w@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:60b74692-7ace-4a11-9cc6-4c053f6b84a1@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>I am curious about how the licensing works.
>
> I have a server that is running Windows Server 2003 and MSSql Server
> 2000. We have five user machines running XP. If I understand
> correctly, Win2003 and MSSql come with 5 Client licenses. What if I
> need to add another user? We don't use Active Directory are anything
> like that. We are only using the server to host the database that our
> application connects to.
>
> So, if I need to add a sixth user, do I need more licenses for Win
> 2003 AND MSSql?
>
> And what about Terminal Services? I am thinking maybe of moving our
> users over to Linux/Mac computers and having them access that one
> application via TS. How does that work in regards to licenses? And
> do I really need to setup another Windows 2003 machine to host the TS
> License Server?????
>
> Thanks.
> Griff

Griff5w
Wed Apr 30 10:37:29 PDT 2008

On Apr 30, 1:17 pm, "AllenM" <nore...@NoEmail.com> wrote:
> You either need User CAL's or Device CAL's. Basically you need a license for
> every user and or device that "authenticates" to your domain.
>
> "Griff5w" <grif...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:60b74692-7ace-4a11-9cc6-4c053f6b84a1@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I am curious about how the licensing works.
>
> > I have a server that is running Windows Server 2003 and MSSql Server
> > 2000. We have five user machines running XP. If I understand
> > correctly, Win2003 and MSSql come with 5 Client licenses. What if I
> > need to add another user? We don't use Active Directory are anything
> > like that. We are only using the server to host the database that our
> > application connects to.
>
> > So, if I need to add a sixth user, do I need more licenses for Win
> > 2003 AND MSSql?
>
> > And what about Terminal Services? I am thinking maybe of moving our
> > users over to Linux/Mac computers and having them access that one
> > application via TS. How does that work in regards to licenses? And
> > do I really need to setup another Windows 2003 machine to host the TS
> > License Server?????
>
> > Thanks.
> > Griff

I am not using Domains. It is just a simple Workgroup. The server
exists solely to run MSSql which hosts the data for an application
that we run. All other network tasks (printing, file shares, email,
etc) are handled on Linux. Unfortunately we have this one application
that we must use only hosts data in MSSql.

So, for the sixth user to use the application and have it get the data
in MSSql, we have to buy another CAL for both Win2003 AND MSSql??

Now, if I decide to use Terminal Services for the users to run that
application, do I still need a CAL for Win2003 and MSSql for EACH
User? Plus TS Licenses?

kj
Wed Apr 30 10:46:23 PDT 2008

Griff5w wrote:
> On Apr 30, 1:17 pm, "AllenM" <nore...@NoEmail.com> wrote:
>> You either need User CAL's or Device CAL's. Basically you need a
>> license for every user and or device that "authenticates" to your
>> domain.
>>
>> "Griff5w" <grif...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:60b74692-7ace-4a11-9cc6-4c053f6b84a1@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> I am curious about how the licensing works.
>>
>>> I have a server that is running Windows Server 2003 and MSSql Server
>>> 2000. We have five user machines running XP. If I understand
>>> correctly, Win2003 and MSSql come with 5 Client licenses. What if I
>>> need to add another user? We don't use Active Directory are
>>> anything like that. We are only using the server to host the
>>> database that our application connects to.
>>
>>> So, if I need to add a sixth user, do I need more licenses for Win
>>> 2003 AND MSSql?
>>
>>> And what about Terminal Services? I am thinking maybe of moving our
>>> users over to Linux/Mac computers and having them access that one
>>> application via TS. How does that work in regards to licenses? And
>>> do I really need to setup another Windows 2003 machine to host the
>>> TS License Server?????
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Griff
>
> I am not using Domains. It is just a simple Workgroup. The server
> exists solely to run MSSql which hosts the data for an application
> that we run. All other network tasks (printing, file shares, email,
> etc) are handled on Linux. Unfortunately we have this one application
> that we must use only hosts data in MSSql.
>
> So, for the sixth user to use the application and have it get the data
> in MSSql, we have to buy another CAL for both Win2003 AND MSSql??
>
> Now, if I decide to use Terminal Services for the users to run that
> application, do I still need a CAL for Win2003 and MSSql for EACH
> User? Plus TS Licenses?


Still need a user or device license for windows (domain or not - doesn't
matter).

SQL *may* be licensed "Per Processor" and if so, you needn't a sperate CAL
for that. You need to look at your SQL license.

TS licensing is yet another need if you go that way.
--
/kj

AllenM
Thu May 01 09:01:19 PDT 2008


Like kj wrote you will still need them. As long as they are required to
"authenticate" to a domain or local machine. Additionally if you plan on
using terminal server you will need TS cals.

"Griff5w" <abowman0@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e33b3506-9770-4e7e-ad89-519f521128a5@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 30, 1:17 pm, "AllenM" <nore...@NoEmail.com> wrote:
>> You either need User CAL's or Device CAL's. Basically you need a license
>> for
>> every user and or device that "authenticates" to your domain.
>>
>> "Griff5w" <grif...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:60b74692-7ace-4a11-9cc6-4c053f6b84a1@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >I am curious about how the licensing works.
>>
>> > I have a server that is running Windows Server 2003 and MSSql Server
>> > 2000. We have five user machines running XP. If I understand
>> > correctly, Win2003 and MSSql come with 5 Client licenses. What if I
>> > need to add another user? We don't use Active Directory are anything
>> > like that. We are only using the server to host the database that our
>> > application connects to.
>>
>> > So, if I need to add a sixth user, do I need more licenses for Win
>> > 2003 AND MSSql?
>>
>> > And what about Terminal Services? I am thinking maybe of moving our
>> > users over to Linux/Mac computers and having them access that one
>> > application via TS. How does that work in regards to licenses? And
>> > do I really need to setup another Windows 2003 machine to host the TS
>> > License Server?????
>>
>> > Thanks.
>> > Griff
>
> I am not using Domains. It is just a simple Workgroup. The server
> exists solely to run MSSql which hosts the data for an application
> that we run. All other network tasks (printing, file shares, email,
> etc) are handled on Linux. Unfortunately we have this one application
> that we must use only hosts data in MSSql.
>
> So, for the sixth user to use the application and have it get the data
> in MSSql, we have to buy another CAL for both Win2003 AND MSSql??
>
> Now, if I decide to use Terminal Services for the users to run that
> application, do I still need a CAL for Win2003 and MSSql for EACH
> User? Plus TS Licenses?