Lanwench
Tue Jul 15 09:57:58 PDT 2008
Gorge Lucas <gorge192@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lanwench,
>
> Some good and bad news... it's kind of fixed syncing. However, these
> users are on laptops. The client wants to be able to unplug the
> computer, turn on wireless and walk around the office. At the moment,
> if you unplug the lan cable, all the desktop icons disapear as they
> are located on the server and there is no offline files enabled. When
> the wireless connects, the user has to hit F5 to get the desktop
> icons back on the desktop. Quicklaunch icons are still missing.
>
> Any tips for a situation like this? I have another user with a laptop
> and they are not having any of these problems. I am wondering if it
> is a profile problem.
>
> Thanks
Honestly, I train my users not to pull the plug to switch to wireless. But
you can use offline files if you like to see if this helps. I've had
problems with it, so I don't ..I use a third party app (www.centered.com) to
sync My Documents to a local folder. But depending on your skill with group
policy & where the laptops are in your OUs, you may be able to make this
work fine.
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
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>> Gorge Lucas <gorge192@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> I pretty much do everything you suggest. I do one thing differently
>>> however and that's having the folder redirection out of their
>>> profile.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean...I don't redirect folders *into* a profile
>> folder!
>>> I just noticed and offline files was *off* for the profile
>>> but *on* for the redirected folders, which probably makes sense to
>>> why I am having these problems.
>>
>> Yes, could be.
>>>
>>> Would you agree?
>>
>> I disable offline files via GPO so I'm not sure, but yeah, why not!
>>>
>>> I have changed it now. The users have gone home so I will not know
>>> until tomorrow if this has worked or not.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> You're welcome - keep us posted.
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>> Gorge Lucas <gorge192@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a customer who has a roaming profile. This is setup excatly
>>>>> like all my other customers. What happens is the server goes
>>>>> offline for 1-3 seconds for no apparent reason and syncing
>>>>> occurs. When this happens, they lose all their icons on the
>>>>> desktop, quicklaunch etc. This is a SBS 2003 R2 server.
>>>>> There is nothing wrong with the server from what I can see. It's
>>>>> not going down at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Does this happen to all users? Meaning, is the server itself
>>>> actually having
>>>> problems?
>>>>
>>>> Make sure the parent folder/share for the profiles does *not* have
>>>> offline caching enabled, or you will definitely have problems.
>>>>
>>>> Also note that
>>>> roaming profiles really require folder redirection in order to work
>>>> -and if
>>>> you turn on folder redirection by default it turns on offline file
>>>> syncing for my documents, etc. I always disable that as I am not a
>>>> fan. Note that future SBS questions are best posted in
>>>> m.p.windows.server.sbs - it does many things its own way.
>>>>
>>>> My boilerplate on roaming profiles is below...
>>>>
>>>> ********************
>>>> General tips:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Set up a share on the server. For example - d:\profiles, shared
>>>> as profiles$ to make it hidden from browsing. Make sure this share
>>>> is *not* set
>>>> to allow offline files/caching! (that's on by default - disable it)
>>>>
>>>> 2. Make sure the share permissions on profiles$ indicate
>>>> everyone=full control. Set the NTFS security to administrators,
>>>> system, and users=full control.
>>>>
>>>> 3. In the users' ADUC properties, specify
>>>> \\server\profiles$\%username% in the profiles field
>>>>
>>>> 4. Have each user log into the domain once - if this is an existing
>>>> user with a profile you wish to keep, have them log in at their
>>>> usual workstationand log out. The profile is now roaming.
>>>>
>>>> 5. If you want the administrators group to automatically have
>>>> permissions to
>>>> the profiles folders, you'll need to make the appropriate change in
>>>> group policy. Look in computer configuration/administrative
>>>> templates/system/user
>>>> profiles - there's an option to add administrators group to the
>>>> roaming profiles permissions. Do this *before* the users' roaming
>>>> profile folders are created - it isn't retroactive.
>>>>
>>>> ********************
>>>> Notes:
>>>>
>>>> Make sure users understand that they should not log into multiple
>>>> computers
>>>> at the same time when they have roaming profiles (unless you make
>>>> the profiles mandatory by renaming ntuser.dat to ntuser.man so
>>>> they can't change
>>>> them, which has major disadvantages),. Explain that the 'last one
>>>> out wins'
>>>> when it comes to uploading the final, changed copy of the profile.
>>>> If you want to restrict multiple simultaneous network logins, look
>>>> at LimitLogon (too much overhead for me), or this:
>>>>
http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=8768
>>>>
>>>> ********************
>>>> Keep your profiles TINY. Via group policy, you should be
>>>> redirecting My Documents (at the very least) - to a subfolder of
>>>> the user's home directory
>>>> or user folder. Also consider redirecting Desktop & Application
>>>> Data similarly..... so the user will end up with:
>>>>
>>>> \\server\users\%username%\My Documents,
>>>> \\server\users\%username%\Desktop,
>>>> \\server\users\%username%\Application Data.
>>>>
>>>> [Alternatively, just manually re-target My Documents to
>>>> \\server\users\%username% (this is not optimal, however!)]
>>>>
>>>> You should use folder redirection even without roaming profiles,
>>>> but it's especially critical if you *are* using them.
>>>>
>>>> If you aren't going to also redirect the desktop using policies,
>>>> tell users
>>>> that they are not to store any files on the desktop or you will
>>>> beat them with a
>>>> stick. Big profile=slow login/logout, and possible profile
>>>> corruption. ********************
>>>> Note that user profiles are not compatible between different OS
>>>> versions, even between W2k/XP. Keep all your computers. Keep your
>>>> workstations as identical as possible - meaning, OS version is the
>>>> same, SP level is the same, app load is (as much as possible) the
>>>> same. *********************
>>>> If you also have Terminal Services users, make sure you set up a
>>>> different TS profile path for them in their ADUC properties - e.g.,
>>>> \\server\tsprofiles$\%username%
>>>>
>>>> ********************
>>>> Do not let people store any data locally - all data belongs on the
>>>> server. ********************
>>>> The User Profile Hive Cleanup Utility should be running on all your
>>>> computers. You can download it here:
>>>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en
>>>>
>>>> ********************
>>>> Roaming profile & folder redirection article -
>>>>
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Profile-Folder-Redirection-Windows-Server-2003.html