Image Backup of RAID arrays

I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a Dell
PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1 arrays
in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.

Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and rebuilding. I
currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
would be a good thing...

TIA
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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Edwin
Wed Sep 17 04:34:33 PDT 2008


"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a Dell
> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1 arrays
> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
>
> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and rebuilding. I
> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
> would be a good thing...
>

Hank,
what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as used
cap) ?

Daniel
Wed Sep 17 11:00:08 PDT 2008

I dont know about what you are looking to spend but look at Acronis. We use
this for our backup and imageing needs.

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a Dell
> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1 arrays
> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
>
> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and rebuilding. I
> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
> would be a good thing...
>
> TIA
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
>

Hank
Thu Sep 18 02:12:20 PDT 2008

Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a Dell
>> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1 arrays
>> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
>>
>> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and rebuilding. I
>> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
>> would be a good thing...
>>
>
> Hank,
> what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as used
> cap) ?
>
>
>
30/30/140 GB (usually about 30% used)

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Edwin
Thu Sep 18 02:49:59 PDT 2008


"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:u%23gKr6WGJHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
> > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a Dell
> >> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1 arrays
> >> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
> >>
> >> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and rebuilding.
I
> >> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
> >> would be a good thing...
> >>
> >
> > Hank,
> > what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as
used
> > cap) ?
> >
> >
> >
> 30/30/140 GB (usually about 30% used)
>

You can actually pick up a 500GB external HD pretty cheaply, why not
NTBackup to that ?
(or image to that ?)

Hank
Fri Sep 19 04:00:47 PDT 2008

Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23gKr6WGJHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
>>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a Dell
>>>> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1 arrays
>>>> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
>>>>
>>>> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and rebuilding.
> I
>>>> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
>>>> would be a good thing...
>>>>
>>> Hank,
>>> what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as
> used
>>> cap) ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 30/30/140 GB (usually about 30% used)
>>
>
> You can actually pick up a 500GB external HD pretty cheaply, why not
> NTBackup to that ?
> (or image to that ?)
>
>
>
The issue is how to create an image file of a RAID array.

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Edwin
Fri Sep 19 05:03:44 PDT 2008


"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:uB7e8bkGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
> > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:u%23gKr6WGJHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
> >>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a
Dell
> >>>> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1
arrays
> >>>> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
> >>>>
> >>>> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and
rebuilding.
> > I
> >>>> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
> >>>> would be a good thing...
> >>>>
> >>> Hank,
> >>> what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as
> > used
> >>> cap) ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> 30/30/140 GB (usually about 30% used)
> >>
> >
> > You can actually pick up a 500GB external HD pretty cheaply, why not
> > NTBackup to that ?
> > (or image to that ?)
> >
> >
> >
> The issue is how to create an image file of a RAID array.
>

ah ok, understand your question now.

I would use Acronis for this http://www.acronis.com/
again, will require some investment in the software

any particular reason you don't want to do this with NTBackup or Backup Exec
9.1 (which you already have) ?

Hank
Sun Sep 21 03:17:48 PDT 2008

Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:uB7e8bkGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
>>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u%23gKr6WGJHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
>>>>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a
> Dell
>>>>>> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1
> arrays
>>>>>> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and
> rebuilding.
>>> I
>>>>>> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low cost
>>>>>> would be a good thing...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hank,
>>>>> what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as
>>> used
>>>>> cap) ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 30/30/140 GB (usually about 30% used)
>>>>
>>> You can actually pick up a 500GB external HD pretty cheaply, why not
>>> NTBackup to that ?
>>> (or image to that ?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The issue is how to create an image file of a RAID array.
>>
>
> ah ok, understand your question now.
>
> I would use Acronis for this http://www.acronis.com/
> again, will require some investment in the software
>
> any particular reason you don't want to do this with NTBackup or Backup Exec
> 9.1 (which you already have) ?
>
>

NTBACKUP requires reinstalling the OS and gets a bit complicated,
especially with boot partitions. My problems with Backup Exec have
always been getting the correct drivers on the boot disk/CD.. I'm going
to take another look/try at it.. Thanks....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Matt
Sun Sep 21 08:05:26 PDT 2008

I tried taking an image of an old server that had a raid controller with no
luck. It wouldn't boot afterward... Do others have success using Acronis
or Ghost? Just curious...

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:%23p%23aNN9GJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:uB7e8bkGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
>>>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u%23gKr6WGJHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] wrote:
>>>>>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:evK%23vPKGJHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I'm going to be rebuilding a server in a couple of months. It is a
>> Dell
>>>>>>> PowerEdge 2850 connected to a PowerVault box. There are 2 RAID 1
>> arrays
>>>>>>> in the PowerEdge and a RAID 10 in the PowerVault.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Id like to image the 3 arrays before wiping the server and
>> rebuilding.
>>>> I
>>>>>>> currently have Backup Exec 9.1 Looking for a way to do this. Low
>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>> would be a good thing...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hank,
>>>>>> what kind of capacity are we talking here (total disk cap, as well as
>>>> used
>>>>>> cap) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 30/30/140 GB (usually about 30% used)
>>>>>
>>>> You can actually pick up a 500GB external HD pretty cheaply, why not
>>>> NTBackup to that ?
>>>> (or image to that ?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The issue is how to create an image file of a RAID array.
>>>
>>
>> ah ok, understand your question now.
>>
>> I would use Acronis for this http://www.acronis.com/
>> again, will require some investment in the software
>>
>> any particular reason you don't want to do this with NTBackup or Backup
>> Exec
>> 9.1 (which you already have) ?
>>
>>
>
> NTBACKUP requires reinstalling the OS and gets a bit complicated,
> especially with boot partitions. My problems with Backup Exec have always
> been getting the correct drivers on the boot disk/CD.. I'm going to take
> another look/try at it.. Thanks....
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services