unable to update 1%

Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another download
on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update site
as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get the
unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's KB867282
cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the add/remove
though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I can't
find them.
How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
Hillneerg

Noel
Mon Mar 14 14:41:20 CST 2005

Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting the
System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.

Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it to
WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.

If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG /FIX into
the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that fixes it.

If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that you are
able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on your PC
for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to completely
remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems to be
the easiest at present.

Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
A:\> prompt.

ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder

HTH


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another
> download
> on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update
> site
> as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get
> the
> unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's KB867282
> cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> add/remove
> though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I
> can't
> find them.
> How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> Hillneerg

Hillneerg
Mon Mar 14 15:59:04 CST 2005

Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't have any of
Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This time I
have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there is a
wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and "rename
file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file (plus a
wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped me).
There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After installing
the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last August????
but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the August one).
Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
(Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't boot
up!!).
Many thanks for your time and trouble
Hillneerg


"Noel Paton" wrote:

> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting the
> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
>
> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it to
> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
>
> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG /FIX into
> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that fixes it.
>
> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that you are
> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on your PC
> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to completely
> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems to be
> the easiest at present.
>
> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
> A:\> prompt.
>
> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
>
> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another
> > download
> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update
> > site
> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get
> > the
> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's KB867282
> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> > add/remove
> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I
> > can't
> > find them.
> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> > Hillneerg
>
>
>

Noel
Mon Mar 14 23:02:15 CST 2005

Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err file,
would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems with
the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)

I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance, as
you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System Restore
archive.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
> Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't have any
> of
> Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This time I
> have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there is a
> wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and "rename
> file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
> (plus a
> wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped me).
> There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After installing
> the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last August????
> but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the August
> one).
> Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
> Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
> Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
> (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't boot
> up!!).
> Many thanks for your time and trouble
> Hillneerg
>
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
>> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting the
>> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
>>
>> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it to
>> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
>>
>> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG /FIX
>> into
>> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that fixes
>> it.
>>
>> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that you
>> are
>> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on your
>> PC
>> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
>> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
>> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
>> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to completely
>> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems to be
>> the easiest at present.
>>
>> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
>> A:\> prompt.
>>
>> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
>> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
>>
>> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
>> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
>> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
>> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>>
>> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
>> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another
>> > download
>> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update
>> > site
>> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get
>> > the
>> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
>> > KB867282
>> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
>> > add/remove
>> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
>> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I
>> > can't
>> > find them.
>> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
>> > Hillneerg
>>
>>
>>

Hillneerg
Tue Mar 15 06:43:05 CST 2005

Right I will go ahead and delete the folder and reinstall the update.
One thing I have noticed is that after all the trouble with the patch, for
some reason the box for Statemgr was unchecked in msconfig startup. Now I am
the only person with access to the PC and I didn't uncheck it! That may be
the reason all my restore points vanished but why I don't know. I have
re-checked the box now of course.

I have e-mailed you the file as requested.
Thanks,
Hillneerg

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err file,
> would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems with
> the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)
>
> I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance, as
> you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System Restore
> archive.
>
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't have any
> > of
> > Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This time I
> > have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there is a
> > wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and "rename
> > file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
> > (plus a
> > wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped me).
> > There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After installing
> > the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last August????
> > but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the August
> > one).
> > Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
> > Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
> > Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
> > (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't boot
> > up!!).
> > Many thanks for your time and trouble
> > Hillneerg
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >
> >> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting the
> >> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
> >>
> >> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it to
> >> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
> >>
> >> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG /FIX
> >> into
> >> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that fixes
> >> it.
> >>
> >> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that you
> >> are
> >> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on your
> >> PC
> >> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
> >> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
> >> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
> >> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to completely
> >> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems to be
> >> the easiest at present.
> >>
> >> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
> >> A:\> prompt.
> >>
> >> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> >> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
> >>
> >> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
> >> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
> >> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >>
> >> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another
> >> > download
> >> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update
> >> > site
> >> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get
> >> > the
> >> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
> >> > KB867282
> >> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> >> > add/remove
> >> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> >> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I
> >> > can't
> >> > find them.
> >> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> >> > Hillneerg
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hillneerg
Tue Mar 15 06:57:08 CST 2005

Sorry about this. After searching for my startup disc, I couldn't find it (no
surprise there). I decided to make a new one via add/remove but when I click
on "create disc" nothing happens (well the ok and cancel buttons grey out for
a second) but nothing else. The drive A is working fine and the floppy is ok.
I know I can find a "generic" disc on he Internet ( I presume thay would be
ok) but am a little concerned that I can't get any response from my PC.
Hillneerg

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err file,
> would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems with
> the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)
>
> I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance, as
> you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System Restore
> archive.
>
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't have any
> > of
> > Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This time I
> > have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there is a
> > wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and "rename
> > file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
> > (plus a
> > wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped me).
> > There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After installing
> > the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last August????
> > but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the August
> > one).
> > Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
> > Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
> > Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
> > (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't boot
> > up!!).
> > Many thanks for your time and trouble
> > Hillneerg
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >
> >> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting the
> >> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
> >>
> >> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it to
> >> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
> >>
> >> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG /FIX
> >> into
> >> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that fixes
> >> it.
> >>
> >> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that you
> >> are
> >> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on your
> >> PC
> >> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
> >> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
> >> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
> >> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to completely
> >> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems to be
> >> the easiest at present.
> >>
> >> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
> >> A:\> prompt.
> >>
> >> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> >> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
> >>
> >> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
> >> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
> >> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >>
> >> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another
> >> > download
> >> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update
> >> > site
> >> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get
> >> > the
> >> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
> >> > KB867282
> >> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> >> > add/remove
> >> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> >> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I
> >> > can't
> >> > find them.
> >> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> >> > Hillneerg
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Jack
Tue Mar 15 07:48:33 CST 2005

Try the "Ultimate Boot Disk" from
http://www.startdisk.com/
--
8O)
Koldbear
---
www.bootdisk.com

How To Create a Windows Me Startup Disk Manually
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;271823


Confirm that the Windows setup files are in Windows\Options\CABS , or the
...\INSTALL folder, for the Add-Remove/Windows Setup wizard to work
properly. If not, point the wizard to the Windows CD.

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CF67AD47-BC5A-4E6F-81CA-CD83A59B6F0C@microsoft.com...
> Sorry about this. After searching for my startup disc, I couldn't find it
(no
> surprise there). I decided to make a new one via add/remove but when I
click
> on "create disc" nothing happens (well the ok and cancel buttons grey out
for
> a second) but nothing else. The drive A is working fine and the floppy is
ok.
> I know I can find a "generic" disc on he Internet ( I presume thay would
be
> ok) but am a little concerned that I can't get any response from my PC.
> Hillneerg
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
> > Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err
file,
> > would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems
with
> > the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)
> >
> > I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance, as
> > you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System
Restore
> > archive.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> >
> > "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't have
any
> > > of
> > > Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This
time I
> > > have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there is
a
> > > wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and
"rename
> > > file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
> > > (plus a
> > > wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped me).
> > > There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After
installing
> > > the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last
August????
> > > but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the
August
> > > one).
> > > Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
> > > Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
> > > Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
> > > (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't
boot
> > > up!!).
> > > Many thanks for your time and trouble
> > > Hillneerg
> > >
> > >
> > > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting
the
> > >> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
> > >>
> > >> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it
to
> > >> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
> > >>
> > >> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG
/FIX
> > >> into
> > >> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that
fixes
> > >> it.
> > >>
> > >> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that
you
> > >> are
> > >> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on
your
> > >> PC
> > >> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
> > >> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
> > >> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
> > >> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to
completely
> > >> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems
to be
> > >> the easiest at present.
> > >>
> > >> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at
the
> > >> A:\> prompt.
> > >>
> > >> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> > >> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
> > >>
> > >> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should
be
> > >> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to
Windows
> > >> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
> > >>
> > >> HTH
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> > >>
> > >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > >>
> > >> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> > >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> > >>
> > >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> > >>
> > >> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that
another
> > >> > download
> > >> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows
update
> > >> > site
> > >> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i
get
> > >> > the
> > >> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
> > >> > KB867282
> > >> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> > >> > add/remove
> > >> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> > >> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid
I
> > >> > can't
> > >> > find them.
> > >> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> > >> > Hillneerg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

Hillneerg
Tue Mar 15 14:27:06 CST 2005

Shouldn't have posted the last message here re the startup disk as it is
unconnected so have removed it to another thread. my apologies.
Back to the original, I deleted the file and all is well and the update took
with no problems.
I hace printed out your advice for future reference.
Many thanks for your time and trouble. It is appreciated.

"Hillneerg" wrote:

> Sorry about this. After searching for my startup disc, I couldn't find it (no
> surprise there). I decided to make a new one via add/remove but when I click
> on "create disc" nothing happens (well the ok and cancel buttons grey out for
> a second) but nothing else. The drive A is working fine and the floppy is ok.
> I know I can find a "generic" disc on he Internet ( I presume thay would be
> ok) but am a little concerned that I can't get any response from my PC.
> Hillneerg
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
> > Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err file,
> > would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems with
> > the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)
> >
> > I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance, as
> > you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System Restore
> > archive.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >
> > "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't have any
> > > of
> > > Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This time I
> > > have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there is a
> > > wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and "rename
> > > file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
> > > (plus a
> > > wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped me).
> > > There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After installing
> > > the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last August????
> > > but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the August
> > > one).
> > > Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
> > > Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
> > > Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
> > > (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't boot
> > > up!!).
> > > Many thanks for your time and trouble
> > > Hillneerg
> > >
> > >
> > > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting the
> > >> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
> > >>
> > >> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename it to
> > >> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
> > >>
> > >> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG /FIX
> > >> into
> > >> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that fixes
> > >> it.
> > >>
> > >> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that you
> > >> are
> > >> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on your
> > >> PC
> > >> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find the
> > >> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
> > >> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
> > >> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to completely
> > >> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems to be
> > >> the easiest at present.
> > >>
> > >> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
> > >> A:\> prompt.
> > >>
> > >> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> > >> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
> > >>
> > >> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
> > >> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
> > >> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
> > >>
> > >> HTH
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> > >>
> > >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > >>
> > >> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> > >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> > >>
> > >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> > >>
> > >> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that another
> > >> > download
> > >> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows update
> > >> > site
> > >> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot, i get
> > >> > the
> > >> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
> > >> > KB867282
> > >> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> > >> > add/remove
> > >> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> > >> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm afraid I
> > >> > can't
> > >> > find them.
> > >> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> > >> > Hillneerg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

Noel
Tue Mar 15 14:50:39 CST 2005

No problem - I've just walked in the door....

Good Luck

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A4E11DA0-154E-4A1F-9EC0-B49B08694780@microsoft.com...
> Shouldn't have posted the last message here re the startup disk as it is
> unconnected so have removed it to another thread. my apologies.
> Back to the original, I deleted the file and all is well and the update
> took
> with no problems.
> I hace printed out your advice for future reference.
> Many thanks for your time and trouble. It is appreciated.
>
> "Hillneerg" wrote:
>
>> Sorry about this. After searching for my startup disc, I couldn't find it
>> (no
>> surprise there). I decided to make a new one via add/remove but when I
>> click
>> on "create disc" nothing happens (well the ok and cancel buttons grey out
>> for
>> a second) but nothing else. The drive A is working fine and the floppy is
>> ok.
>> I know I can find a "generic" disc on he Internet ( I presume thay would
>> be
>> ok) but am a little concerned that I can't get any response from my PC.
>> Hillneerg
>>
>> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>>
>> > Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err
>> > file,
>> > would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems
>> > with
>> > the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)
>> >
>> > I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance,
>> > as
>> > you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System
>> > Restore
>> > archive.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>> >
>> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>> >
>> > In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
>> > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>> >
>> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> > NG's
>> >
>> > "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
>> > > Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't
>> > > have any
>> > > of
>> > > Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This
>> > > time I
>> > > have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there
>> > > is a
>> > > wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and
>> > > "rename
>> > > file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
>> > > (plus a
>> > > wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped
>> > > me).
>> > > There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After
>> > > installing
>> > > the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last
>> > > August????
>> > > but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the
>> > > August
>> > > one).
>> > > Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
>> > > Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
>> > > Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
>> > > (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't
>> > > boot
>> > > up!!).
>> > > Many thanks for your time and trouble
>> > > Hillneerg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Noel Paton" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting
>> > >> the
>> > >> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
>> > >>
>> > >> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename
>> > >> it to
>> > >> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
>> > >>
>> > >> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG
>> > >> /FIX
>> > >> into
>> > >> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that
>> > >> fixes
>> > >> it.
>> > >>
>> > >> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that
>> > >> you
>> > >> are
>> > >> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on
>> > >> your
>> > >> PC
>> > >> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find
>> > >> the
>> > >> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
>> > >> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
>> > >> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to
>> > >> completely
>> > >> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems
>> > >> to be
>> > >> the easiest at present.
>> > >>
>> > >> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands
>> > >> at the
>> > >> A:\> prompt.
>> > >>
>> > >> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
>> > >> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
>> > >>
>> > >> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should
>> > >> be
>> > >> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to
>> > >> Windows
>> > >> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
>> > >>
>> > >> HTH
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>> > >>
>> > >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> > >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>> > >>
>> > >> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
>> > >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>> > >>
>> > >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> > >> NG's
>> > >>
>> > >> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that
>> > >> > another
>> > >> > download
>> > >> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows
>> > >> > update
>> > >> > site
>> > >> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot,
>> > >> > i get
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
>> > >> > KB867282
>> > >> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
>> > >> > add/remove
>> > >> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
>> > >> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm
>> > >> > afraid I
>> > >> > can't
>> > >> > find them.
>> > >> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
>> > >> > Hillneerg
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

Hillneerg
Wed Mar 16 08:19:03 CST 2005

Just one final question (sorry). After using the attrib etc in DOS and
deleting the oldrest file, should there still be a _restore folder visable
(there used to be)?
I have found a hidden _restore folder (after unchecking hide protected
system files) and it still has over 65000 files and 5 folders and is 69.4MB
(1.05gb on disk)in size. The folder used to be visable normally (not faded).
Hillneerg

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> No problem - I've just walked in the door....
>
> Good Luck
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A4E11DA0-154E-4A1F-9EC0-B49B08694780@microsoft.com...
> > Shouldn't have posted the last message here re the startup disk as it is
> > unconnected so have removed it to another thread. my apologies.
> > Back to the original, I deleted the file and all is well and the update
> > took
> > with no problems.
> > I hace printed out your advice for future reference.
> > Many thanks for your time and trouble. It is appreciated.
> >
> > "Hillneerg" wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry about this. After searching for my startup disc, I couldn't find it
> >> (no
> >> surprise there). I decided to make a new one via add/remove but when I
> >> click
> >> on "create disc" nothing happens (well the ok and cancel buttons grey out
> >> for
> >> a second) but nothing else. The drive A is working fine and the floppy is
> >> ok.
> >> I know I can find a "generic" disc on he Internet ( I presume thay would
> >> be
> >> ok) but am a little concerned that I can't get any response from my PC.
> >> Hillneerg
> >>
> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes - you need to delete the folder (please email me the wininit.err
> >> > file,
> >> > would you? - it may help in tracking down the source of some problems
> >> > with
> >> > the KB 891711 patch - my email is valid)
> >> >
> >> > I doubt very much that the SCANREG /FIX will work in this instance,
> >> > as
> >> > you've already identified the problem as being a 'stuffed' System
> >> > Restore
> >> > archive.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >> >
> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >> >
> >> > In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> >> > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >> >
> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> >> > NG's
> >> >
> >> > "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:A56007CC-DB47-4C2C-B5A9-1C5698B1D6DE@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Thanks. You had to give me this advice about a year ago. (I don't
> >> > > have any
> >> > > of
> >> > > Norton's programs on my PC at all - not even trial versions). This
> >> > > time I
> >> > > have copied it and will keep it safe.There is no ini file but there
> >> > > is a
> >> > > wininit.err file with today's date with a lot of "delete file" and
> >> > > "rename
> >> > > file" in it, an exe file, a sav file a txt file (blank)and a bak file
> >> > > (plus a
> >> > > wininitlog.old which I think dates from that last time you helped
> >> > > me).
> >> > > There are 32,789 files in 5 folders in the restore folder.After
> >> > > installing
> >> > > the KB891711 update all the resore points went bar one for last
> >> > > August????
> >> > > but it did create one for the update in question (but deleted the
> >> > > August
> >> > > one).
> >> > > Now, before I do the repairs, some quick questions.
> >> > > Would you still advise me to remove the folder?
> >> > > Also, will I need to re-download/install the update again?
> >> > > (Writing this in advance of the scanreg/fix just in case the PC won't
> >> > > boot
> >> > > up!!).
> >> > > Many thanks for your time and trouble
> >> > > Hillneerg
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Your %1/%2 error is caused usually by Norton LiveUpdate, corrupting
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> System Restore archive - although there are other possible causes.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Do a Search for the file WININIT.INI - if you find it, then rename
> >> > >> it to
> >> > >> WININIT.JNK, and reboot - your problem should be gone.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If you don't find it, then try this - Start|Run - enter SCANREG
> >> > >> /FIX
> >> > >> into
> >> > >> the dialog box, and click OK - windows will reboot - see if that
> >> > >> fixes
> >> > >> it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If not, then open Windows Explorer - check in Folder Properties that
> >> > >> you
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> able to view Hidden and System files (two settings), then Search on
> >> > >> your
> >> > >> PC
> >> > >> for files named '_RESTORE' (without the quotes) - you should find
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> C:\_RESTORE folder - r-click on it, and select Properties.
> >> > >> How many files/folders are there? If it's around 64 thousand, then
> >> > >> LiveUpdate has been up to its tricks again, and you'll have to
> >> > >> completely
> >> > >> remove the folder from DOS - use the following method, which seems
> >> > >> to be
> >> > >> the easiest at present.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands
> >> > >> at the
> >> > >> A:\> prompt.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> >> > >> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
> >> > >>
> >> > >> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should
> >> > >> be
> >> > >> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to
> >> > >> Windows
> >> > >> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
> >> > >>
> >> > >> HTH
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> > >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >> > >>
> >> > >> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> >> > >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> >> > >> NG's
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Hillneerg" <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:ECFD125D-8A89-4D13-8B6A-5BDC46297B2E@microsoft.com...
> >> > >> > Following problems with the KB891711 download, I notice that
> >> > >> > another
> >> > >> > download
> >> > >> > on the same day hasn't "taken". It still shows up on the Windows
> >> > >> > update
> >> > >> > site
> >> > >> > as a critical update. When I try to install and after the reboot,
> >> > >> > i get
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > unable to update 1% 2% message. I have tried several times (it's
> >> > >> > KB867282
> >> > >> > cumulative patch for IE6 Service pack 1). It does show up in the
> >> > >> > add/remove
> >> > >> > though as installed as does IE6 service pack 1.
> >> > >> > I know there have been several topics on this before but I'm
> >> > >> > afraid I
> >> > >> > can't
> >> > >> > find them.
> >> > >> > How do I get this to update please.Thanks,
> >> > >> > Hillneerg
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>

Mike
Wed Mar 16 09:38:51 CST 2005

You need to follow EXACTLY the steps set out in Noels' first post in this
thread. Namely:

Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
A:\> prompt.

ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder

A new C:\_RESTORE folder will have been created when you booted back into
to Win Me after removing the floppy. It will contain five sub folders and
just a few files - perhaps 10-12MB at most in total including a single
checkpoint.

Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore archive to suit your
requirements. System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust
the restore slider to your preferred setting. The minimum of 200MB or
perhaps one notch above that is normally more than adequate for day to day
use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available although
increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days during periods of
large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

Regards,
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a very dear friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Hillneerg <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Just one final question (sorry). After using the attrib etc in DOS and
> deleting the oldrest file, should there still be a _restore folder
> visable (there used to be)?
> I have found a hidden _restore folder (after unchecking hide protected
> system files) and it still has over 65000 files and 5 folders and is
> 69.4MB (1.05gb on disk)in size. The folder used to be visable
> normally (not faded). Hillneerg

Hillneerg
Fri Mar 18 17:49:02 CST 2005

Ok, that bit sorted out. I must have made an error the first time.
I have followed the instructions very carefully and the _restore folder is
now at 17.3MB with 2627 files an I have one checkpoint.
I have adjusted the restore slider (for some reason it was set rather high -
2800MB, I don't know why I did that).
To find the new _restore folder, I have to uncheck the "hide protected
system files" (although I always have the "show hidden folders" checked)
option otherwise I can't find it in a search (0 files found)or using Windows
explorer.
Previously it just showed as a normal folder and I didn't have to uncheck
anything. Possibly something I had one in the past caused this but which is
correct - visible (after having checked "show hidden files") or a hidden
protected system folder?
Sorry for the trouble and thank you for your time.
Hillneerg



"Mike M" wrote:

> You need to follow EXACTLY the steps set out in Noels' first post in this
> thread. Namely:
>
> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands at the
> A:\> prompt.
>
> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
>
> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should be
> gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to Windows
> Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
>
> A new C:\_RESTORE folder will have been created when you booted back into
> to Win Me after removing the floppy. It will contain five sub folders and
> just a few files - perhaps 10-12MB at most in total including a single
> checkpoint.
>
> Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore archive to suit your
> requirements. System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust
> the restore slider to your preferred setting. The minimum of 200MB or
> perhaps one notch above that is normally more than adequate for day to day
> use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available although
> increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days during periods of
> large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.
>
> Regards,
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a very dear friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Hillneerg <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Just one final question (sorry). After using the attrib etc in DOS and
> > deleting the oldrest file, should there still be a _restore folder
> > visable (there used to be)?
> > I have found a hidden _restore folder (after unchecking hide protected
> > system files) and it still has over 65000 files and 5 folders and is
> > 69.4MB (1.05gb on disk)in size. The folder used to be visable
> > normally (not faded). Hillneerg
>
>

Mike
Fri Mar 18 18:15:40 CST 2005

Hillneerg,

To see the entire contents of the C:\_RESTORE folder including the five
sub-folders and their contents you need to have both "Show hidden files
and folders" checked and "Hide protected operating system files"
UNchecked.

If you check "Show hidden files and folders" and "Hide protected operating
system files" remains checked you will see the _RESTORE folder and four of
the five top level files but not the five sub-folders and their contents.

If you have both "Do not show hidden files and folders" and "Hide
protected operating system files" checked you won't see the _RESTORE
folder when using Windows Explorer.

Noel in his first post in this thread mentioned that there were two places
in Folder Options | View that need to be configured to view the _RESTORE
folder and all the contents.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Hillneerg <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Ok, that bit sorted out. I must have made an error the first time.
> I have followed the instructions very carefully and the _restore
> folder is now at 17.3MB with 2627 files an I have one checkpoint.
> I have adjusted the restore slider (for some reason it was set rather
> high - 2800MB, I don't know why I did that).
> To find the new _restore folder, I have to uncheck the "hide protected
> system files" (although I always have the "show hidden folders"
> checked) option otherwise I can't find it in a search (0 files
> found)or using Windows explorer.
> Previously it just showed as a normal folder and I didn't have to
> uncheck anything. Possibly something I had one in the past caused
> this but which is correct - visible (after having checked "show
> hidden files") or a hidden protected system folder?
> Sorry for the trouble and thank you for your time.
> Hillneerg
>
>
>
> "Mike M" wrote:
>
>> You need to follow EXACTLY the steps set out in Noels' first post in
>> this thread. Namely:
>>
>> Reboot to DOS using your Startup disk enter the following commands
>> at the A:\> prompt.
>>
>> ATTRIB -R -H -S C:\_RESTORE
>> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
>>
>> remove the floppy, and reboot to normal windows. - your error should
>> be gone, and you should now have a new, single restore point. Go to
>> Windows Explorer, and delete the C:\OLDREST folder
>>
>> A new C:\_RESTORE folder will have been created when you booted back
>> into to Win Me after removing the floppy. It will contain five sub
>> folders and just a few files - perhaps 10-12MB at most in total
>> including a single checkpoint.
>>
>> Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore archive to suit
>> your requirements. System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk
>> and adjust the restore slider to your preferred setting. The
>> minimum of 200MB or perhaps one notch above that is normally more
>> than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of
>> checkpoints to be available although increasing this to perhaps
>> 400-500MB for a few days during periods of large installs such
>> Microsoft Office is advisable.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
>> In memory of a very dear friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>
>> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Hillneerg <Hillneerg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just one final question (sorry). After using the attrib etc in DOS
>>> and deleting the oldrest file, should there still be a _restore
>>> folder visable (there used to be)?
>>> I have found a hidden _restore folder (after unchecking hide
>>> protected system files) and it still has over 65000 files and 5
>>> folders and is
>>> 69.4MB (1.05gb on disk)in size. The folder used to be visable
>>> normally (not faded). Hillneerg

Hillneerg
Sat Mar 19 17:13:03 CST 2005

Right, what you say is exactly how it used to be.
"Show hidden files" resulted in me being able to view the actual folder,
click on it and the properties and to view the four files.
Since following the instructions, neither the the folder nor the four files
are visible although I can see the four files if I type in C:\_RESTORE
directly.
On this setting ("show hidden files"), I am unable to find the folder using
search or windows explorer.
However, if I check "show hidden files" and "show protected then I can find
them using the above (and, of course, they show the extra files).
In "properties", the "hidden" box is checked but greyed-out.
I would like it to be as you described but cannot understand why it isn't
any more.

The only item I have changed on the PC is to download a new Java from Sun
but I can't see how that would change it.
Also I note that the _restore file again has over 65,000 files (in 24 hours
- see last post)nearly all of them in a folder called TEMP and nearly all of
them "Touchmanager.ini" which is my keyboard controller. I have seen a reply
from you on another windows forumz from June 2004 regarding this but got lost
about half way. It seems as if this is causing the updating problems (1% 2%)
as it is clogging up the folder.
The files are "ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ

[Info]
LastScan=C:\WINDOWS\TOUCHMGR.INI" and the touchmgr.ini file is "[Settings]
Flags=4 2 5 300 10 500 300 0 0 0
ModeBarX=241
ModeBarY=335
AlwaysOnTop=0
StartMinimized=0
SaveModeBarPos=1
RemoteName=[Multimedia Keyboard SK1301]
Xpos=277
Ypos=0
SaveWinPos=1
FontName=Arial
FontCharSet=0
FontSize=14
ExePath=C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETROPA\TOUCH MANAGER\TOUCHMGR.EXE
ConfigureBtns=1
DefaultOn=1
LabelColor=4"
I am running TrendMicro Internet Security with a real-time scan so am not
too sure which is causing the problem. The files seem to build up at the rate
of about 150-200 each minute but I cannot equate the times created with
anything in particular (the last batch I was disconnected from the Internet
and out of the room although the PC was still switched on)and I can't make it
do it (tried logging on to internet, opening e-mails etc)and I don't have any
automatic updates running at all. Nothing unusual running either (explorer,
systray,ruddll32, pcciomon, pccguide pccclient)
Hope you can help.
Hillneerg


"Mike M" wrote:

> Hillneerg,
>
> To see the entire contents of the C:\_RESTORE folder including the five
> sub-folders and their contents you need to have both "Show hidden files
> and folders" checked and "Hide protected oper