I have a couple restore points that are corrupted.
Is there a way to delete them?
Can I do it using Windows explorer?

Thanks,

as

Re: How do you delete restore points? by Mike

Mike
Sat Nov 22 08:45:53 CST 2003

You cannot delete individual checkpoints, and there is little purpose in doing
so since they are simply copies of the registry made at the time. OK, there
is a way of removing them but again this serves no purpose as the associated
archived files must be retained otherwise older checkpoints will be useless as
there has to be an unbroken chain between the current state and the checkpoint
state.

What do you mean by a corrupted checkpoint? That the registry for those
checkpoints is bad? The only safe options are to either reduce the space
allocated to the restore archive and thus flush out older checkpoints on a
first in first out basis (FIFO) or to cycle the state manager off and then
back on again and thus clear the entire archive.

None of the above is done using windows explorer.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


~A_Sammy <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

> I have a couple restore points that are corrupted.
> Is there a way to delete them?
> Can I do it using Windows explorer?
>
> Thanks,



Re: How do you delete restore points? by ~A_Sammy

~A_Sammy
Sat Nov 22 10:18:53 CST 2003

Hi Mike, thanks for such a quick reply!
I tried a restore point and it didn't work. The restore file was corrupted.
So if they are chained, then all subsequent ones are kaput, too, right?
The system is working properly now.
I like the idea of "cycle the state manager off and then on."
How do you do that? I searched on restore points in the help
files but didn't find anything.
Thanks again,

Sammy

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23TTmVdQsDHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You cannot delete individual checkpoints, and there is little purpose in
doing
> so since they are simply copies of the registry made at the time. OK,
there
> is a way of removing them but again this serves no purpose as the
associated
> archived files must be retained otherwise older checkpoints will be
useless as
> there has to be an unbroken chain between the current state and the
checkpoint
> state.
>
> What do you mean by a corrupted checkpoint? That the registry for those
> checkpoints is bad? The only safe options are to either reduce the space
> allocated to the restore archive and thus flush out older checkpoints on a
> first in first out basis (FIFO) or to cycle the state manager off and then
> back on again and thus clear the entire archive.
>
> None of the above is done using windows explorer.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> mcmaltby@hotmail.com
>
>
> ~A_Sammy <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> > I have a couple restore points that are corrupted.
> > Is there a way to delete them?
> > Can I do it using Windows explorer?
> >
> > Thanks,
>
>



Re: How do you delete restore points? by Mike

Mike
Sat Nov 22 11:19:55 CST 2003

Sammy,

Rather than a checkpoint being kaput it is possible that the control files are
damaged. There are however other reasons why a restore might fail including a
failure to have installed the 290700 patch. So, before clearing the archive
may I suggest you perform the following quick test:
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
Could you do so? Did you see any error messages?
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore you PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?

As to resetting the state manager and rebuilding the control files:
To reset System Restore:
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable System
Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you restore folder
and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now
automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder:
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting. A figure of 200MB is normally more than adequate
for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available
although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days during periods of
large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

If this doesn't clear down the _restore archive (and it doesn't always) the
next suggestion is to boot to DOS using a floppy and delete the entire
_RESTORE folder structure from there:
a) Boot to DOS using a floppy. Do NOT choose "Minimal Boot" from the menu
when booting from a floppy but rather choose "Start computer with (or without)
CD-ROM support" otherwise the ATTRIB command will not be available.
b) At the DOS A:\> prompt, type:

ATTRIB -H -S -R C:\_RESTORE
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

c) Remove the floppy
d) Reboot your PC
e) Delete the folder C:\OLDREST
f) Check that an automatic system restore checkpoint was created.
g) Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


~A_Sammy <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

> Hi Mike, thanks for such a quick reply!
> I tried a restore point and it didn't work. The restore file was
> corrupted. So if they are chained, then all subsequent ones are kaput,
> too, right? The system is working properly now.
> I like the idea of "cycle the state manager off and then on."
> How do you do that? I searched on restore points in the help
> files but didn't find anything.
> Thanks again,



Re: How do you delete restore points? by Burt

Burt
Sat Nov 22 14:05:36 CST 2003

Mike,
For my own info, you show two lines of dos command... Are those supposed
to be done individually?
Thanx,
Burt
The Old Alaskan
MVP's listed on TECKPAGE
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog/teckpage.htm

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:uldDazRsDHA.2260@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Sammy,

Rather than a checkpoint being kaput it is possible that the control files
are
damaged. There are however other reasons why a restore might fail including
a
failure to have installed the 290700 patch. So, before clearing the archive
may I suggest you perform the following quick test:
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
Could you do so? Did you see any error messages?
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore you PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?

As to resetting the state manager and rebuilding the control files:
To reset System Restore:
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable
System
Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you restore folder
and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now
automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder:
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting. A figure of 200MB is normally more than
adequate
for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available
although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days during periods
of
large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

If this doesn't clear down the _restore archive (and it doesn't always) the
next suggestion is to boot to DOS using a floppy and delete the entire
_RESTORE folder structure from there:
a) Boot to DOS using a floppy. Do NOT choose "Minimal Boot" from the menu
when booting from a floppy but rather choose "Start computer with (or
without)
CD-ROM support" otherwise the ATTRIB command will not be available.
b) At the DOS A:\> prompt, type:

ATTRIB -H -S -R C:\_RESTORE
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

c) Remove the floppy
d) Reboot your PC
e) Delete the folder C:\OLDREST
f) Check that an automatic system restore checkpoint was created.
g) Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


~A_Sammy <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

> Hi Mike, thanks for such a quick reply!
> I tried a restore point and it didn't work. The restore file was
> corrupted. So if they are chained, then all subsequent ones are kaput,
> too, right? The system is working properly now.
> I like the idea of "cycle the state manager off and then on."
> How do you do that? I searched on restore points in the help
> files but didn't find anything.
> Thanks again,



Re: How do you delete restore points? by Mike

Mike
Sat Nov 22 14:11:10 CST 2003

Burt,
Yes, the first command is to remove the hidden and system attributes using
ATTRIB after which the folder is renamed using the REN command
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


Burt <smokydog@damnthespamalaska.net> wrote:

> Mike,
> For my own info, you show two lines of dos command... Are those
> supposed to be done individually?
> Thanx,



Re: How do you delete restore points? by Burt

Burt
Sat Nov 22 17:10:54 CST 2003

Thanx for the reply Mike,
Burt

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:erYoGTTsDHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Burt,
Yes, the first command is to remove the hidden and system attributes using
ATTRIB after which the folder is renamed using the REN command
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


Burt <smokydog@damnthespamalaska.net> wrote:

> Mike,
> For my own info, you show two lines of dos command... Are those
> supposed to be done individually?
> Thanx,



Re: How do you delete restore points? by Andrew

Andrew
Sat Nov 22 20:37:34 CST 2003

This deletes ALL system restore, then set a fresh one
=============================================
Right click "My Computer"
- Properties
- Performance
-- file system
--Troubleshooting
-- Disable System Restore

Reboot
-----------------

Enable system Restore

Reboot
==============================================

Andy

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:25:26 -0500, "~A_Sammy" <bogus@nowhere.net>
wrote:

>I have a couple restore points that are corrupted.
>Is there a way to delete them?
>Can I do it using Windows explorer?
>
>Thanks,
>
>as
>