clearing TIME_WAIT - how?

Sometime TCPview reveals many many lines such as (mywinmepc is the local
host)..

> TCP mywinmepc:1103 localhost:1102 TIME_WAIT
> TCP mywinmepc:1105 localhost:1104 TIME_WAIT
> TCP mywinmepc:1107 localhost:1106 TIME_WAIT
> TCP mywinmepc:1111 localhost:1110 TIME_WAIT
> TCP mywinmepc:1113 localhost:1112 TIME_WAIT
> TCP mywinmepc:1115 localhost:1114 TIME_WAIT
> TCP mywinmepc:1117 localhost:1116 TIME_WAIT

ETC...

Some other "services" sit in TIME_WAIT state such as old POP3 calls.

Is there a way to clear these "TIME_WAIT" ports without resorting to
rebooting the pc?

(My pc.. is WinMe, configured as an ICS host, sharing a dialup with a
networked WinXP pc)

webster72n
Sun Feb 26 14:40:44 CST 2006


Did you post the same in the WinXP NG, Ogg?
If not, maybe you should?

Harry.


"Ogg" <sorry-nopam-wanted@at.all> wrote in message
news:eislcLxOGHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Sometime TCPview reveals many many lines such as (mywinmepc is the local
> host)..
>
> > TCP mywinmepc:1103 localhost:1102 TIME_WAIT
> > TCP mywinmepc:1105 localhost:1104 TIME_WAIT
> > TCP mywinmepc:1107 localhost:1106 TIME_WAIT
> > TCP mywinmepc:1111 localhost:1110 TIME_WAIT
> > TCP mywinmepc:1113 localhost:1112 TIME_WAIT
> > TCP mywinmepc:1115 localhost:1114 TIME_WAIT
> > TCP mywinmepc:1117 localhost:1116 TIME_WAIT
>
> ETC...
>
> Some other "services" sit in TIME_WAIT state such as old POP3 calls.
>
> Is there a way to clear these "TIME_WAIT" ports without resorting to
> rebooting the pc?
>
> (My pc.. is WinMe, configured as an ICS host, sharing a dialup with a
> networked WinXP pc)
>
>

Mike
Sun Feb 26 14:54:06 CST 2006

webster72n <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:

> Did you post the same in the WinXP NG, Ogg?
> If not, maybe you should?

Harry,

So not only are those not running Win Me apparently unwelcome in these NGs
but also asking questions about Win Me are now also inappropriate. <g> So
what exactly do you think should be posting in these NGs and what should
the question be about? :-)

Note Ogg's network ICS host is running Win Me which by now I'm sure you
understand means he is running Windows Millennium. <vbg>

--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

Heather
Sun Feb 26 14:57:01 CST 2006

WHY?? Everyone here (but you) is using both XP and ME....so I am quite
sure the gurus can help him.

Figgs, muttering 4 letter words to herself...

"webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
news:u1aReRxOGHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> Did you post the same in the WinXP NG, Ogg?
> If not, maybe you should?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Ogg" <sorry-nopam-wanted@at.all> wrote in message
> news:eislcLxOGHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Sometime TCPview reveals many many lines such as (mywinmepc is the
>> local
>> host)..
>>
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1103 localhost:1102 TIME_WAIT
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1105 localhost:1104 TIME_WAIT
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1107 localhost:1106 TIME_WAIT
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1111 localhost:1110 TIME_WAIT
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1113 localhost:1112 TIME_WAIT
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1115 localhost:1114 TIME_WAIT
>> > TCP mywinmepc:1117 localhost:1116 TIME_WAIT
>>
>> ETC...
>>
>> Some other "services" sit in TIME_WAIT state such as old POP3 calls.
>>
>> Is there a way to clear these "TIME_WAIT" ports without resorting to
>> rebooting the pc?
>>
>> (My pc.. is WinMe, configured as an ICS host, sharing a dialup with a
>> networked WinXP pc)
>>
>>
>
>

Joan
Sun Feb 26 15:00:54 CST 2006

<lol> Stick a patch on <g>
Joan


Heather wrote:
>
> Figgs, muttering 4 letter words to herself...
>

Heather
Sun Feb 26 15:01:19 CST 2006

> Note Ogg's network ICS host is running Win Me which by now I'm sure >
> you understand means he is running Windows Millennium. <vbg>
>
Don't bet your *beer money* on that one, lol.

Figgs

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:u6G2HbxOGHA.3728@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> webster72n <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:
>
>> Did you post the same in the WinXP NG, Ogg?
>> If not, maybe you should?
>
> Harry,
>
> So not only are those not running Win Me apparently unwelcome in these
> NGs but also asking questions about Win Me are now also inappropriate.
> <g> So what exactly do you think should be posting in these NGs and
> what should the question be about? :-)
>
> Note Ogg's network ICS host is running Win Me which by now I'm sure
> you understand means he is running Windows Millennium. <vbg>
>
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>

Heather
Sun Feb 26 15:06:46 CST 2006

LOL!! Did that and so far, so good. At Day 19 or so.....and no major
cravings. Go get the patch and join me.

Only one day of the *bitchies*. But that was Ron's fault, lol. He
spoke to me. Silly man!!

XX Figgs

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:uuso9exOGHA.3360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> <lol> Stick a patch on <g>
> Joan
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>>
>> Figgs, muttering 4 letter words to herself...
>>
>
>

Mike
Sun Feb 26 15:05:19 CST 2006

Ogg,

Why do you want to clear these? To do so close the app or operating
system service that is using the ports concerned. Note though that all
are directed at the localhost so it's not as if they are open and waiting
on the net. Like yourself I'm perhaps a little intrigued at the number of
posts in this state.

Rather than TCPView what does netstat (run from a DOS prompt) have to say?
Does it show the same ports in the same state?
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Ogg <sorry-nopam-wanted@at.all> wrote:

> Sometime TCPview reveals many many lines such as (mywinmepc is the
> local host)..
>
>> TCP mywinmepc:1103 localhost:1102 TIME_WAIT
>> TCP mywinmepc:1105 localhost:1104 TIME_WAIT
>> TCP mywinmepc:1107 localhost:1106 TIME_WAIT
>> TCP mywinmepc:1111 localhost:1110 TIME_WAIT
>> TCP mywinmepc:1113 localhost:1112 TIME_WAIT
>> TCP mywinmepc:1115 localhost:1114 TIME_WAIT
>> TCP mywinmepc:1117 localhost:1116 TIME_WAIT
>
> ETC...
>
> Some other "services" sit in TIME_WAIT state such as old POP3 calls.
>
> Is there a way to clear these "TIME_WAIT" ports without resorting to
> rebooting the pc?
>
> (My pc.. is WinMe, configured as an ICS host, sharing a dialup with a
> networked WinXP pc)

Joan
Sun Feb 26 15:11:44 CST 2006

<lol> Yes I've got to get the patches, these lozenges are no good for me
they are making me feel quite ill and worse than actually smoking, don't
worry haven't smoked since Friday night.
Joan


Heather wrote:
> LOL!! Did that and so far, so good. At Day 19 or so.....and no
> major cravings. Go get the patch and join me.
>
> Only one day of the *bitchies*. But that was Ron's fault, lol. He
> spoke to me. Silly man!!
>
> XX Figgs
>

Mike
Sun Feb 26 15:12:38 CST 2006

Heather <figgs@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>> Note Ogg's network ICS host is running Win Me which by now I'm sure >
>> you understand means he is running Windows Millennium. <vbg>
>>
> Don't bet your *beer money* on that one, lol.

LOL

However from Ogg's post:
"(My pc.. is WinMe, configured as an ICS host, sharing a dialup with a
networked WinXP pc)"
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

webster72n
Sun Feb 26 15:28:25 CST 2006

Mike:

1. Noone ever proposed that noone else besides WinME users are welcome
here, I sure didn't.
2. Also didn't suggest the question to be inappropiate, merely to post in
the XP group too, since affiliation with WinXP was mentioned. What's wrong
with that?
3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers?

Harry.


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:u6G2HbxOGHA.3728@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> webster72n <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:
>
> > Did you post the same in the WinXP NG, Ogg?
> > If not, maybe you should?
>
> Harry,
>
> So not only are those not running Win Me apparently unwelcome in these NGs
> but also asking questions about Win Me are now also inappropriate. <g> So
> what exactly do you think should be posting in these NGs and what should
> the question be about? :-)
>
> Note Ogg's network ICS host is running Win Me which by now I'm sure you
> understand means he is running Windows Millennium. <vbg>
>
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>

Heather
Sun Feb 26 15:38:34 CST 2006

Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended up
in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the
intestinal tract, it does.

I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off when
I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I never
did smoke when I was asleep!!

Cheers....Heather

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:uNJ8AlxOGHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> <lol> Yes I've got to get the patches, these lozenges are no good for
> me they are making me feel quite ill and worse than actually smoking,
> don't worry haven't smoked since Friday night.
> Joan
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>> LOL!! Did that and so far, so good. At Day 19 or so.....and no
>> major cravings. Go get the patch and join me.
>>
>> Only one day of the *bitchies*. But that was Ron's fault, lol. He
>> spoke to me. Silly man!!
>>
>> XX Figgs
>>
>
>

Mike
Sun Feb 26 16:06:46 CST 2006

> 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers?

If you were to try reading this thread instead of getting all hot under
the collar you would see I have replied to Ogg.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


webster72n <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:

> Mike:
>
> 1. Noone ever proposed that noone else besides WinME users are
> welcome here, I sure didn't.
> 2. Also didn't suggest the question to be inappropiate, merely to
> post in the XP group too, since affiliation with WinXP was mentioned.
> What's wrong with that?
> 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers?

Joan
Sun Feb 26 16:10:00 CST 2006

<lol> Wouldn't even think about the gum, teeth and gum don't mix <g>
I'm phoning the doctor in the morning, as the help group put my
appointment back another week and can't put up with the lozenges that long
want to get the patches on prescription if possible.
It means a journey into town to get anything even the doctor and I'm not
going near the only shop we have in the village to get fags so got to do
something quick <g>
Joan


Heather wrote:
> Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended
> up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the
> intestinal tract, it does.
>
> I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off
> when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I
> never did smoke when I was asleep!!
>
> Cheers....Heather
>

webster72n
Sun Feb 26 18:24:47 CST 2006


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:ORYcZEyOGHA.3944@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers?
>
> If you were to try reading this thread instead of getting all hot under
> the collar you would see I have replied to Ogg.

That reply came in on my machine right *after* I posted, Mike.
I apologize for that one, most humbly.

Harry.

> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> webster72n <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:
>
> > Mike:
> >
> > 1. Noone ever proposed that noone else besides WinME users are
> > welcome here, I sure didn't.
> > 2. Also didn't suggest the question to be inappropiate, merely to
> > post in the XP group too, since affiliation with WinXP was mentioned.
> > What's wrong with that?
> > 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers?
>

webster72n
Sun Feb 26 18:56:00 CST 2006

Joan & Heather,
this is to both of you *girls*, or should I say *ladies*:
I used to smoke at least a pack a day, until I decided it was detrimental to
my health, about twenty years ago.
No patches, no pills and no hypnotist, just simple self-determination, which
anyone can apply, app. you.
You have to find an *overwhelming* reason for yourself to quit.
In my case it was my health and that should hold true for most cases,
including yours, but that's where your determination comes in, to *stay
firm*.
Once you have done that, you put the last pack away and never touch another
*smoke*, which isn't to say 'the end of all temptation', because there will
be plenty for awhile.
Even in your dreams and, believe it or not, every now and then I still have
one of those, but less and less.
Think you can manage?

(Dr.) Harry.



"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:uzUEmFyOGHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> <lol> Wouldn't even think about the gum, teeth and gum don't mix <g>
> I'm phoning the doctor in the morning, as the help group put my
> appointment back another week and can't put up with the lozenges that long
> want to get the patches on prescription if possible.
> It means a journey into town to get anything even the doctor and I'm not
> going near the only shop we have in the village to get fags so got to do
> something quick <g>
> Joan
>
>
> Heather wrote:
> > Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended
> > up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the
> > intestinal tract, it does.
> >
> > I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off
> > when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I
> > never did smoke when I was asleep!!
> >
> > Cheers....Heather
> >
>
>

Joan
Mon Feb 27 10:37:52 CST 2006

Got the patches this morning from the doctor and feeling great <g>
He gave me a prescription for the Stage One strength and another for when
they are running out for the next stage.

Don't have to pay because I get free prescriptions, just sorting out
starting up a saving account so I can put some of what I would have spent
on ciggys into it, I'll have something to show for it then.
Joan



Heather wrote:
> Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended
> up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the
> intestinal tract, it does.
>
> I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off
> when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I
> never did smoke when I was asleep!!
>
> Cheers....Heather
>

Heather
Mon Feb 27 12:43:53 CST 2006

Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than
the lozenges (ugh) or the gum. And there is also Zyban to fall back on,
which is really Welbutrin, a Prozac derivative. I didn't want that but
Ron's doctor suggested it if I was going *snaky* with withdrawal. Not
about to do that.

XX Heather

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:%23cEJnw7OGHA.964@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Got the patches this morning from the doctor and feeling great <g>
> He gave me a prescription for the Stage One strength and another for
> when they are running out for the next stage.
>
> Don't have to pay because I get free prescriptions, just sorting out
> starting up a saving account so I can put some of what I would have
> spent on ciggys into it, I'll have something to show for it then.
> Joan
>
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>> Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended
>> up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the
>> intestinal tract, it does.
>>
>> I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off
>> when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I
>> never did smoke when I was asleep!!
>>
>> Cheers....Heather
>>
>
>

Shane
Mon Feb 27 16:53:07 CST 2006


"Heather" <figgs@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23iyvD38OGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than the
> lozenges (ugh) or the gum.

You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-) It's getting too
much of that deadly poison Nicotine that causes the problems! If nicotine,
in itself, buggered the intestinal tract taken orally, smoking would do it
too (esp. via pipe or cigar, but lots of cigs would - especially hand
rolled).

The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the addiction far
better than patches can, because the delivery is periodic, not continuous -
like with smoking. With patches you lose the rush and it's that loss that
leads to constant stress and ultimate failure. Otherwise you're really
addressing habits such as having something in your hand and sucking (God, I
hope 'Loom isn't reading this or we'll be straight back in the gutter!).

If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your
addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as directed - the
gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden, overpowering craving that
eventually wears you down.


Shane

Heather
Mon Feb 27 17:19:01 CST 2006


"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23T%23LTC$OGHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23iyvD38OGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than
>> the lozenges (ugh) or the gum.
>
> You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-)

The major problem with that is that I hate chewing gum and never
do...puts my "teeth on edge" as the saying goes.

> The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the addiction
> far better than patches can, because the delivery is periodic, not
> continuous - like with smoking. With patches you lose the rush and
> it's that loss that leads to constant stress and ultimate failure.
> Otherwise you're really addressing habits such as having something in
> your hand and sucking (God, I hope 'Loom isn't reading this or we'll
> be straight back in the gutter!).<<<

ROFL!! Lollipops/suckers were considered.
>
> If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your
> addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as
> directed - the gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden,
> overpowering craving that eventually wears you down.

The patch is working extremely well......no overpowering urges, just the
odd time I miss having a smoke. But that passes in seconds. As the
booklet said, the urge will pass in the same amount of time "whether you
smoke or ignore it"

The main thing is that one has to reach the point where they truly want
to quit....and I have. For many silly little reasons besides the health
aspect. Stinky house, etc. I intend to make it this time and Elayne is
laughing at me because my basic math was wrong....I have been smoking
for more than 50 years (not 40)...and I am as calm as can be. No
bitchies here, which amazes Ron.

XX Figgs
>

Shane
Mon Feb 27 17:55:00 CST 2006

Go for it Figgy Dearest! And Joannie Baby too!

Helps if you've got someone to do it for.

I got to where I liked the period of clarity so much - after something like
3 to 7 hours - I almost got hooked on quitting!


Shane

"Heather" <figgs@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23Jv07Q$OGHA.3460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23T%23LTC$OGHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:%23iyvD38OGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than
>>> the lozenges (ugh) or the gum.
>>
>> You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-)
>
> The major problem with that is that I hate chewing gum and never do...puts
> my "teeth on edge" as the saying goes.
>
>> The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the addiction
>> far better than patches can, because the delivery is periodic, not
>> continuous - like with smoking. With patches you lose the rush and it's
>> that loss that leads to constant stress and ultimate failure. Otherwise
>> you're really addressing habits such as having something in your hand and
>> sucking (God, I hope 'Loom isn't reading this or we'll be straight back
>> in the gutter!).<<<
>
> ROFL!! Lollipops/suckers were considered.
>>
>> If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your
>> addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as directed -
>> the gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden, overpowering
>> craving that eventually wears you down.
>
> The patch is working extremely well......no overpowering urges, just the
> odd time I miss having a smoke. But that passes in seconds. As the
> booklet said, the urge will pass in the same amount of time "whether you
> smoke or ignore it"
>
> The main thing is that one has to reach the point where they truly want to
> quit....and I have. For many silly little reasons besides the health
> aspect. Stinky house, etc. I intend to make it this time and Elayne is
> laughing at me because my basic math was wrong....I have been smoking for
> more than 50 years (not 40)...and I am as calm as can be. No bitchies
> here, which amazes Ron.
>
> XX Figgs
>>
>
>

Joan
Tue Feb 28 06:04:15 CST 2006

I'm doing better with the patches than I did with the lozenges, they made
me feel ill, felt as if they were burning my mouth and kept feeling sick.
The box said that the initial treatment was to take at least 9 a day but
no more than 15, I only had 3 the first day and 4 the next and couldn't
cope with them, it would have been more pleasant to smoke than take them
<g>

I can't use the gum as false teeth and gum don't mix <g>

I'm determined this time to succeed though and as no one else smokes in
the house and any visitors we have don't I wont have the temptation, plus
I don't go anywhere like the pub or such to set me off <g>

As for Loom reading that post he's probably still laughing too much to
come up with a reply yet <g>
Joan



Shane wrote:
>
> You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-) It's
> getting too much of that deadly poison Nicotine that causes the
> problems! If nicotine, in itself, buggered the intestinal tract taken
> orally, smoking would do it too (esp. via pipe or cigar, but lots of
> cigs would - especially hand rolled).
>
> The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the
> addiction far better than patches can, because the delivery is
> periodic, not continuous - like with smoking. With patches you lose
> the rush and it's that loss that leads to constant stress and
> ultimate failure. Otherwise you're really addressing habits such as
> having something in your hand and sucking (God, I hope 'Loom isn't
> reading this or we'll be straight back in the gutter!).
> If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your
> addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as
> directed - the gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden,
> overpowering craving that eventually wears you down.
>
>
> Shane

Joan
Tue Feb 28 06:06:14 CST 2006

Thanks Shane, I'll get there this time <g> my main smoking was roll ups.
Joan

Shane wrote:
> Go for it Figgy Dearest! And Joannie Baby too!
>
> Helps if you've got someone to do it for.
>
> I got to where I liked the period of clarity so much - after
> something like 3 to 7 hours - I almost got hooked on quitting!
>
>
> Shane

Heirloom
Thu Mar 02 18:55:00 CST 2006

I tried the patches...........those suckers are hard to light.
Heirloom, old and up in smoke

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:uNJ8AlxOGHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> <lol> Yes I've got to get the patches, these lozenges are no good for me
> they are making me feel quite ill and worse than actually smoking, don't
> worry haven't smoked since Friday night.
> Joan
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>> LOL!! Did that and so far, so good. At Day 19 or so.....and no
>> major cravings. Go get the patch and join me.
>>
>> Only one day of the *bitchies*. But that was Ron's fault, lol. He
>> spoke to me. Silly man!!
>>
>> XX Figgs
>>
>
>

Heirloom
Thu Mar 02 19:04:37 CST 2006

Ain't touching that one, Shane.
Heirloom, old and has a pornographic memory

"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23T%23LTC$OGHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23iyvD38OGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than the
>> lozenges (ugh) or the gum.
>
> You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-) It's getting
> too much of that deadly poison Nicotine that causes the problems! If
> nicotine, in itself, buggered the intestinal tract taken orally, smoking
> would do it too (esp. via pipe or cigar, but lots of cigs would -
> especially hand rolled).
>
> The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the addiction far
> better than patches can, because the delivery is periodic, not
> continuous - like with smoking. With patches you lose the rush and it's
> that loss that leads to constant stress and ultimate failure. Otherwise
> you're really addressing habits such as having something in your hand and
> sucking (God, I hope 'Loom isn't reading this or we'll be straight back in
> the gutter!).
>
> If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your
> addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as directed -
> the gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden, overpowering craving
> that eventually wears you down.
>
>
> Shane
>

Heather
Fri Mar 03 00:10:49 CST 2006

LOL!! Hey, old timer, there are a few of us old holdouts giving up the
weed this month. Pure chance. I talked my neighbour into doing it and
then there is myself and Joanie, and Noel will not be far behind. We
will be so pure, no one will recognize us, grin.

I have such a horrible bug of some kind that smoking is the last thing I
would touch! I think it has to be a strain of influenza that they
didn't put in the flu shot. Man....I am s-i-c-k!! Even lost my
voice.....Ron was thrilled!! (G)

XX Figgs
"Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in message
news:%23v3AZ0lPGHA.3800@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I tried the patches...........those suckers are hard to light.
> Heirloom, old and up in smoke
>
> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:uNJ8AlxOGHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> <lol> Yes I've got to get the patches, these lozenges are no good for
>> me they are making me feel quite ill and worse than actually smoking,
>> don't worry haven't smoked since Friday night.
>> Joan
>>
>>
>> Heather wrote:
>>> LOL!! Did that and so far, so good. At Day 19 or so.....and no
>>> major cravings. Go get the patch and join me.
>>>
>>> Only one day of the *bitchies*. But that was Ron's fault, lol. He
>>> spoke to me. Silly man!!
>>>
>>> XX Figgs
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

BJ
Sun Mar 05 07:18:56 CST 2006

"Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in
news:#v3AZ0lPGHA.3800@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> I tried the patches...........those suckers are hard to light.
> Heirloom, old and up in smoke
> "I take a toke and all my cares go up in smoke."

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike