What everyone needs to know

If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and

applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
backdoors, trojan horses and more.

Tracker

Rick
Thu May 20 02:14:37 CDT 2004

Tracker wrote:

> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.

Er, thanks, but most of those services you mentioned aren't default or
even available in a stock Windows Millenium install.


...what's a "bo*b" ?

Fraser
Thu May 20 03:18:39 CDT 2004

I think you should substitute the * with "m" .....

--

Regards,
Fraser Dickson [MCP]


"Rick T" <plinnane3NO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23v4R9mjPEHA.164@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Tracker wrote:
>
>> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
>> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
>> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
>> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
>> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
>> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
>> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
>> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
>> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
>> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
>> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
>> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Er, thanks, but most of those services you mentioned aren't default or
> even available in a stock Windows Millenium install.
>
>
> ...what's a "bo*b" ?

Ionizer
Thu May 20 03:43:42 CDT 2004


"Fraser Dickson" <faz_dickson@(removethis)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23LCLBMkPEHA.640@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I think you should substitute the * with "m" .....

I thought perhaps it was the slang term for breasts ;)

> Regards,
> Fraser Dickson [MCP]
> > ...what's a "bo*b" ?
>
>

Richard
Thu May 20 06:17:53 CDT 2004

Debbie! Long time no see! Not since January! Still trying to sell that
book of miserable "security advice", are you?

Just like a toothache - you don't know how much you miss it until it comes
back.

:-)

P.S. - What's a TCP server? Is that like one of those silver wedgie-things
you use to slice and serve pies and cakes? <VBSEG>

P.P.S. - You misspelled "b**bs". Have a nice day.

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"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Tracker
>
>
>
>

Rob
Thu May 20 08:11:54 CDT 2004

With everything that's going on in the world today I believe Tracker was
very smart using the asterisk in lieu of the letter that completes the word.
Otherwise, his door may get kicked in at any moment and he may be lying on
the floor face down with a dozen well armed guys bending his arms clear
above his head while cuffing him. And for what, just trying to help folks
out by sharing information that many of us are very glad to read and apply
where appropriate......thanks Tracker.
"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Tracker
>
>
>
>

Rick
Thu May 20 09:14:26 CDT 2004

Without wanting to sway your paranoia one way or the other...

"Tracker" is a reasonably active poster, who tends towards the
troll(ette)/nutbar category. Please refer to Google archives for more info.


and I still think she was saying "boobs".




Rick
heheh I said it... will well-endowed reps of the porn industry break
down my door and tie me up ?

boobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobs....

Unknown
Thu May 20 09:37:02 CDT 2004

How can people read this before they put their computers on the network?
"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Tracker
>
>
>
>

kurttrail
Thu May 20 09:43:02 CDT 2004

Rick T wrote:

> Without wanting to sway your paranoia one way or the other...
>
> "Tracker" is a reasonably active poster, who tends towards the
> troll(ette)/nutbar category.

According to you. Warning people to protect themselves from MS's decades of
neglecting to produce secure code, isn't trolling, or the ramblings of a
lunatic, just common sense.

> Please refer to Google archives for more
> info.
>
>
> and I still think she was saying "boobs".
>
>
>
>
> Rick
> heheh I said it... will well-endowed reps of the porn industry break
> down my door and tie me up ?
>
> boobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobs....

What a big man you are, Dick!

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kurttrail
Thu May 20 09:48:46 CDT 2004

Unknown wrote:

> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
> network?

At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new computer. Or
for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on them. From their
computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .

"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
>> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
>> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
>> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
>> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
>> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on
>> the Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
>> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree,
>> but NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet
>> settings and
>>
>> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
>> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
>> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
>> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
>> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>>
>> Tracker



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Unknown
Thu May 20 09:46:42 CDT 2004

The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for decades
neglected to produce secure code. I find that people that make those kinds of
statments have never written a single line of code. Amazing!
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23iw8uinPEHA.2468@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Rick T wrote:
>
> > Without wanting to sway your paranoia one way or the other...
> >
> > "Tracker" is a reasonably active poster, who tends towards the
> > troll(ette)/nutbar category.
>
> According to you. Warning people to protect themselves from MS's decades of
> neglecting to produce secure code, isn't trolling, or the ramblings of a
> lunatic, just common sense.
>
> > Please refer to Google archives for more
> > info.
> >
> >
> > and I still think she was saying "boobs".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> > heheh I said it... will well-endowed reps of the porn industry break
> > down my door and tie me up ?
> >
> > boobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobs....
>
> What a big man you are, Dick!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

Unknown
Thu May 20 10:01:20 CDT 2004

Did you??
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > How can people read this before they put their computers on the
> > network?
>
> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new computer. Or
> for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on them. From their
> computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
>
> "Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> >> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> >> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> >> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> >> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> >> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on
> >> the Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> >> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree,
> >> but NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet
> >> settings and
> >>
> >> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> >> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> >> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> >> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> >> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
> >>
> >> Tracker
>
>
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

kurttrail
Thu May 20 10:25:49 CDT 2004

Unknown wrote:

> The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for
> decades neglected to produce secure code.

They haven't? All the available evidence would suggest differently. MS's
push for more secure code only began a few years ago. And some of their
moves since have been more than a little suspect. Holding up the Address
bar patch to roll it up in a bigger patch. MS did the same thing in April,
holding up patches to roll them together. It's only a matter of time before
a Windows vulnerability gets leaked before MS releases a patch.

Holding up patching holes is negligent in my book.

> I find that people that
> make those kinds of statments have never written a single line of
> code. Amazing!

I find it amazing that a person that gives their name as "Unknown," would
think anyone would take a word they say seriously.

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kurttrail
Thu May 20 10:37:26 CDT 2004

Unknown wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Unknown wrote:
>>
>>> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
>>> network?
>>
>> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
>> computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
>> them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
>>
> Did you??

Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public libraries. Also
from work, and friend's and family member's PCs. This OP I read from my
computer, but I already know how to protect my computer from the all the
MicroHoles. This group are filled with people stopping by that may not
realize that something running in the background that they never need may be
making their computers less secure.

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Unknown
Thu May 20 10:55:24 CDT 2004

Geeeeeze! You don't know anything about business management either.
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:OV5YMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for
> > decades neglected to produce secure code.
>
> They haven't? All the available evidence would suggest differently. MS's
> push for more secure code only began a few years ago. And some of their
> moves since have been more than a little suspect. Holding up the Address
> bar patch to roll it up in a bigger patch. MS did the same thing in April,
> holding up patches to roll them together. It's only a matter of time before
> a Windows vulnerability gets leaked before MS releases a patch.
>
> Holding up patching holes is negligent in my book.
>
> > I find that people that
> > make those kinds of statments have never written a single line of
> > code. Amazing!
>
> I find it amazing that a person that gives their name as "Unknown," would
> think anyone would take a word they say seriously.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

Unknown
Thu May 20 10:58:11 CDT 2004

And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and read.
The world doesn't work that way.
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:um$oMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> > message news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Unknown wrote:
> >>
> >>> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
> >>> network?
> >>
> >> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
> >> computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
> >> them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
> >>
> > Did you??
>
> Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public libraries. Also
> from work, and friend's and family member's PCs. This OP I read from my
> computer, but I already know how to protect my computer from the all the
> MicroHoles. This group are filled with people stopping by that may not
> realize that something running in the background that they never need may be
> making their computers less secure.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

kurttrail
Thu May 20 11:39:00 CDT 2004

Unknown wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:OV5YMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Unknown wrote:
>>
>>> The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for
>>> decades neglected to produce secure code.
>>
>> They haven't? All the available evidence would suggest differently.
>> MS's push for more secure code only began a few years ago. And some
>> of their moves since have been more than a little suspect. Holding
>> up the Address bar patch to roll it up in a bigger patch. MS did
>> the same thing in April, holding up patches to roll them together.
>> It's only a matter of time before a Windows vulnerability gets
>> leaked before MS releases a patch.
>>
>> Holding up patching holes is negligent in my book.
>>
>>> I find that people that
>>> make those kinds of statments have never written a single line of
>>> code. Amazing!
>>
>> I find it amazing that a person that gives their name as "Unknown,"
>> would think anyone would take a word they say seriously.
>>
>
> Geeeeeze! You don't know anything about business management either.

Making decisions based solely on profit margin, instead of doing what's
right.

Yeah, I know MS's business management theory. Luckily, not all businesses
are run so devoid of ethics.

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Ralf
Thu May 20 11:39:29 CDT 2004

But most important: Set your system clock !

"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Tracker
>
>
>
>

kurttrail
Thu May 20 11:48:00 CDT 2004

Unknown wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:um$oMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Unknown wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
>>>>> network?
>>>>
>>>> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
>>>> computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
>>>> them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
>>>>
>>> Did you??
>>
>> Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
>> libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
>> This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
>> my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
>> people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
>> the background that they never need may be making their computers
>> less secure.
>>
>
> And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
> read. The world doesn't work that way.

Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people that are
buying new computers? You.

People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms, spyware,
or whatever and whenever.

I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability, or are
you just being purposefully dense?

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kurttrail
Thu May 20 11:50:39 CDT 2004

Ralf Baumhoefer wrote:

> But most important: Set your system clock !

Wow! I can't believe it took this long before some anal schmuck brought
that up! LOL!

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Joh
Thu May 20 12:02:43 CDT 2004

Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

> The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for decades
> neglected to produce secure code. I find that people that make those kinds of
> statments have never written a single line of code. Amazing!

Oh, you mean every programmers first code of 'Hello world'? You're right...M$
should only do that, since even that should not be able to get fucked up by
them.

Joh N.
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hermes
Thu May 20 12:01:41 CDT 2004

Before the MVP (M$ Victim Poster) Hermes responded, kurttrail typed:
> Unknown wrote:
>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:um$oMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>
>>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
>>>>>> network?
>>>>>
>>>>> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
>>>>> computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
>>>>> them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
>>>>>
>>>> Did you??
>>>
>>> Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
>>> libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
>>> This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
>>> my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
>>> people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
>>> the background that they never need may be making their computers
>>> less secure.
>>>
>>
>> And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
>> read. The world doesn't work that way.
>
> Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people
> that are buying new computers? You.
>
> People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
> Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
> install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms,
> spyware, or whatever and whenever.
>
> I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability,
> or are you just being purposefully dense?

This "Unknown" is unknown until you look at his headers! ROFL

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Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.

Joh
Thu May 20 12:05:45 CDT 2004

Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

> Geeeeeze! You don't know anything about business management either.

That's right! Damn, Kurt, you should know better that M$ will purposefully
make dodgy code so that it can be cracked to the ass and make its users *buy*
it all over again when they (M$) come out with the latest and greatest virus
attractant! What's the matter with you!

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:03pm up 3 days 7:20, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00

Joh
Thu May 20 12:12:44 CDT 2004

Stephen, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

> "Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> | If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> | Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> | aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> | Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> | software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> | Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> | anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> | NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
> |
> | applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> | already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> | drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> | This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> | backdoors, trojan horses and more.
> |
> | Tracker
> |
> |
> |
> |
>
> If one thinks about it too much it's a nightmare. Don't install everything
> that is available, rather only stuff from reputible companies - and don't
> even trust some of them too much.

You mean like WMP? LOL!

> I've heard there's a company selling cheap
> printers and its CD-ROM installs spyware/adware along with the printer
> drivers.

I've *seen* HP install the same spyware when installing their printers.

>
> Naturally, surf with scripting off as default, and keep your system patched.
> Run and AV program too. Some guys insist on a firewall of somesort so they
> can watch the goings on.

It's about the best advice anyone can give. A firewall is/should be a
necessity.

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:08pm up 3 days 7:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00

Joh
Thu May 20 12:19:01 CDT 2004

Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

> And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and read.
> The world doesn't work that way.

Not *just* the library, you fucking imbecile! 'Unknown' fits you perfectly, it
answers the question 'Do you have a brain?'.

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:17pm up 3 days 7:34, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.07, 0.01

RJK
Thu May 20 14:58:14 CDT 2004

There's nothing worse than a female trying to do a mans' job ! :-)

...especially when she doesn't have the first idea what she's talking about.

It's smelly fish like this that give genuine, NON rip-off, PC gurus a bad
name !

regards, Richard


"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Tracker
>
>
>
>

RJK
Thu May 20 15:00:53 CDT 2004

What's that got to do with a female troll that's ready and willing to con
lesser PC literate people into listening to her scare-mongering crap drivel
and extract lots of money from them ?

regards, Richard


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:OV5YMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for
> > decades neglected to produce secure code.
>
> They haven't? All the available evidence would suggest differently. MS's
> push for more secure code only began a few years ago. And some of their
> moves since have been more than a little suspect. Holding up the Address
> bar patch to roll it up in a bigger patch. MS did the same thing in
April,
> holding up patches to roll them together. It's only a matter of time
before
> a Windows vulnerability gets leaked before MS releases a patch.
>
> Holding up patching holes is negligent in my book.
>
> > I find that people that
> > make those kinds of statments have never written a single line of
> > code. Amazing!
>
> I find it amazing that a person that gives their name as "Unknown," would
> think anyone would take a word they say seriously.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

RJK
Thu May 20 15:03:23 CDT 2004

..a firewalls' not a necessity, SEVERAL are CRUCIAL !

regards, Richard


"Joh N." <Yochanon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40ace647_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Stephen, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to
use,
> wrote:
>
> > "Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> > | If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> > | Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> > | aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> > | Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> > | software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> > | Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> > | anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> > | NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings
and
> > |
> > | applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> > | already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> > | drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> > | This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> > | backdoors, trojan horses and more.
> > |
> > | Tracker
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> > If one thinks about it too much it's a nightmare. Don't install
everything
> > that is available, rather only stuff from reputible companies - and
don't
> > even trust some of them too much.
>
> You mean like WMP? LOL!
>
> > I've heard there's a company selling cheap
> > printers and its CD-ROM installs spyware/adware along with the printer
> > drivers.
>
> I've *seen* HP install the same spyware when installing their printers.
>
> >
> > Naturally, surf with scripting off as default, and keep your system
patched.
> > Run and AV program too. Some guys insist on a firewall of somesort so
they
> > can watch the goings on.
>
> It's about the best advice anyone can give. A firewall is/should be a
> necessity.
>
> Joh N.
> --
> Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
> 12:08pm up 3 days 7:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
>

RJK
Thu May 20 15:03:48 CDT 2004

...use a good clairvoyant :-)

regards, Richard


"Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
news:io3rc.9643$eH1.5395026@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> How can people read this before they put their computers on the network?
> "Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> > If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> > Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> > aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> > Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> > software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> > Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> > anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> > NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
> >
> > applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> > already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> > drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> > This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> > backdoors, trojan horses and more.
> >
> > Tracker
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

RJK
Thu May 20 15:07:20 CDT 2004

XP never goes "belly up" unless it's used by somebody who doesn't really
know a computer is for ! ...and that same person is usually a paper
oriented small to medium business person, who thinks that because they've
spent £1500 on a PC package, it's going to miraculously take over all their
paperwork simply by switching it on !!!!!!

regards, Richard


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > How can people read this before they put their computers on the
> > network?
>
> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new computer.
Or
> for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on them. From their
> computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
>
> "Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> >> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> >> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> >> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> >> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> >> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on
> >> the Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> >> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree,
> >> but NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet
> >> settings and
> >>
> >> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> >> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> >> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> >> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> >> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
> >>
> >> Tracker
>
>
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

RJK
Thu May 20 15:13:38 CDT 2004

....here you go :-)
http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Print.cfm?ArticleID=40722

regards, Richard


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23pHNEqoPEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> > message news:um$oMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Unknown wrote:
> >>
> >>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> >>> message news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Unknown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
> >>>>> network?
> >>>>
> >>>> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
> >>>> computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
> >>>> them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
> >>>>
> >>> Did you??
> >>
> >> Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
> >> libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
> >> This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
> >> my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
> >> people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
> >> the background that they never need may be making their computers
> >> less secure.
> >>
> >
> > And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
> > read. The world doesn't work that way.
>
> Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people that are
> buying new computers? You.
>
> People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
> Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
> install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms,
spyware,
> or whatever and whenever.
>
> I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability, or are
> you just being purposefully dense?
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

RJK
Thu May 20 15:12:27 CDT 2004

...here you go :=)
http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp/disableservices.htm

regards, Richard


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23pHNEqoPEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> > message news:um$oMBoPEHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Unknown wrote:
> >>
> >>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> >>> message news:OgZmzlnPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Unknown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> How can people read this before they put their computers on the
> >>>>> network?
> >>>>
> >>>> At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
> >>>> computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
> >>>> them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .
> >>>>
> >>> Did you??
> >>
> >> Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
> >> libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
> >> This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
> >> my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
> >> people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
> >> the background that they never need may be making their computers
> >> less secure.
> >>
> >
> > And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
> > read. The world doesn't work that way.
>
> Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people that are
> buying new computers? You.
>
> People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
> Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
> install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms,
spyware,
> or whatever and whenever.
>
> I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability, or are
> you just being purposefully dense?
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

Malvern
Thu May 20 15:17:53 CDT 2004

Both seem applicable.

Malv

"Ionizer" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:eADRQakPEHA.3944@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> "Fraser Dickson" <faz_dickson@(removethis)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23LCLBMkPEHA.640@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I think you should substitute the * with "m" .....
>
> I thought perhaps it was the slang term for breasts ;)
>
> > Regards,
> > Fraser Dickson [MCP]
> > > ...what's a "bo*b" ?
> >
> >
>
>

kurttrail
Thu May 20 15:23:42 CDT 2004

RJK wrote:

> ...here you go :=)
> http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp/disableservices.htm

Good link.

--
Peace!
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Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

kurttrail
Thu May 20 15:25:24 CDT 2004

RJK wrote:

> XP never goes "belly up" unless it's used by somebody who doesn't
> really know a computer is for !

Are you really that naive?

...and that same person is usually
> a paper oriented small to medium business person, who thinks that
> because they've spent £1500 on a PC package, it's going to
> miraculously take over all their paperwork simply by switching it on
> !!!!!!
>

LOL!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

kurttrail
Thu May 20 15:28:38 CDT 2004

RJK wrote:

> What's that got to do with a female troll that's ready and willing to
> con lesser PC literate people into listening to her scare-mongering
> crap drivel and extract lots of money from them ?

Didn't you supply the links that show people how to disable useless
services?

--
Peace!
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Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

RJK
Thu May 20 15:38:22 CDT 2004

ummm! .... I think I've got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, or put it
like this - I can't seem to follow this thread anymore mainly because I've
had two glasses of wine ! But, I should say, before crashing out, that I
agree with most of what kurttrail says !

regards, Richard


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:ex7i2jqPEHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> RJK wrote:
>
> > What's that got to do with a female troll that's ready and willing to
> > con lesser PC literate people into listening to her scare-mongering
> > crap drivel and extract lots of money from them ?
>
> Didn't you supply the links that show people how to disable useless
> services?
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

Frank
Thu May 20 15:44:29 CDT 2004


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
message news:eeV8ChqPEHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> RJK wrote:
>
> > ...here you go :=)
> >
http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp/disableservices.htm
>
> Good link.

Except for the fact that it is _PASSE_

kurttrail
Thu May 20 15:46:50 CDT 2004

RJK wrote:

> ummm! .... I think I've got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, or
> put it like this - I can't seem to follow this thread anymore mainly
> because I've had two glasses of wine ! But, I should say, before
> crashing out, that I agree with most of what kurttrail says !
>

Have a glass of Chablis on me!

--
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http://microscum.com
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Heather
Thu May 20 15:51:15 CDT 2004

ROFL!! After flipping thru the totally boring *nyah nyah* posts on
this......I can't believe that there are idiots out there that don't know
who Debbie/Trackers/FerretFace is.......she is a total nutbar who drives
everyone on security and antivirus ng's nuts!! She also calls herself
"Beef's Old Lady" (barf......there's a horrible picture!!)

Shaking my head at the dolts who half believe her. Give your heads a shake,
dolts.

Grinning to myself coz it looks like the hackers got to her
computer......her clock is wrong and she *claims* that is a big sign you
have been hacked.......bwa ha ha!!

Figgs

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:uJYoRwlPEHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Debbie! Long time no see! Not since January! Still trying to sell that
> book of miserable "security advice", are you?
>
> Just like a toothache - you don't know how much you miss it until it comes
> back.
>
> :-)
>
> P.S. - What's a TCP server? Is that like one of those silver
wedgie-things
> you use to slice and serve pies and cakes? <VBSEG>
>
> P.P.S. - You misspelled "b**bs". Have a nice day.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] rgharper@email.com
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> > If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> > Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> > aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> > Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> > software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> > Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> > anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> > NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
> >
> > applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> > already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> > drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> > This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> > backdoors, trojan horses and more.
> >
> > Tracker
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

kurttrail
Thu May 20 15:52:31 CDT 2004

Frank wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:eeV8ChqPEHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> RJK wrote:
>>
>>> ...here you go :=)
>>>
> http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp/disableservices.htm
>>
>> Good link.
>
> Except for the fact that it is _PASSE_

Exactly what?

--
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Michael
Thu May 20 16:06:30 CDT 2004

I'm going to have to cogitate on the anatomical implications of "anal
schmuck" and all of the contortionist images it conjures up but I was a bit
surprised at how long it took for someone to mention she ought to fix her
clock as well!<VBG>

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:e$0dEqoPEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Ralf Baumhoefer wrote:
>
>> But most important: Set your system clock !
>
> Wow! I can't believe it took this long before some anal schmuck brought
> that up! LOL!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

Heather
Thu May 20 16:31:56 CDT 2004

Particularly when she says that you have been hacked if your clock
changes.....grin. Anal? Never. Schmuck? Impossible (female here).

Cheers....Figgs

"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in
message news:uh4qs4qPEHA.3460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'm going to have to cogitate on the anatomical implications of "anal
> schmuck" and all of the contortionist images it conjures up but I was a
bit
> surprised at how long it took for someone to mention she ought to fix her
> clock as well!<VBG>
>
> --
> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
> news:e$0dEqoPEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Ralf Baumhoefer wrote:
> >
> >> But most important: Set your system clock !
> >
> > Wow! I can't believe it took this long before some anal schmuck brought
> > that up! LOL!
> >
> > --
> > Peace!
> > Kurt
> > Self-anointed Moderator
> > microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> > http://microscum.com
> > "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> > "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
> >
> >
>
>

Michael
Thu May 20 16:52:42 CDT 2004

LOL

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:udk2MHrPEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Particularly when she says that you have been hacked if your clock
> changes.....grin. Anal? Never. Schmuck? Impossible (female here).
>
> Cheers....Figgs
>
> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in
> message news:uh4qs4qPEHA.3460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I'm going to have to cogitate on the anatomical implications of "anal
>> schmuck" and all of the contortionist images it conjures up but I was a
> bit
>> surprised at how long it took for someone to mention she ought to fix her
>> clock as well!<VBG>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>

Steve
Thu May 20 17:45:06 CDT 2004

HUH!

Sounds like a Bill Basher.


"Tracker" <"snail(valid)mail222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40AD3E17.3A603C2F@yahoo.com...
> If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
> Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
> aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
> Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
> software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
> Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
> anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
> NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
>
> applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
> already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
> drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
> This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
> backdoors, trojan horses and more.
>
> Tracker
>
>
>
>

Rick
Thu May 20 18:59:10 CDT 2004

kurttrail wrote:

> Rick T wrote:
>
>
>>Without wanting to sway your paranoia one way or the other...
>>
>>"Tracker" is a reasonably active poster, who tends towards the
>>troll(ette)/nutbar category.
>
>
> According to you.

Well, yes, according to me, based on the experience of being active in
groups where she occasionally crossposts, do you see any indications I
meant otherwise ? (should've added an IMO I suppose)

> Warning people to protect themselves from MS's decades of
> neglecting to produce secure code, isn't trolling, or the ramblings of a
> lunatic, just common sense.

Doing so with scaremongering techniques and posting in non-relevant
groups dilutes the message, don't you think ?

>
>
>>Please refer to Google archives for more
>>info.
>>
>>
>>and I still think she was saying "boobs".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Rick
>>heheh I said it... will well-endowed reps of the porn industry break
>>down my door and tie me up ?
>>
>>boobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobs....
>
>
> What a big man you are, Dick!
>

Thank you, it is more difficult than simply replying "u a big dumfuk"
and adding juvenile barbs, but I find it's worth it in the long run.

"Soft-trolls", people who start off saying almost-reasonable sounding
stuff, oddly enough have a shorter fuse than most people; it's usually
not more than a few posts in a thread before they start foaming at the
mouth, making trivial insults, etc. I'm not meaning to imply that your
"Tracker" is one.

And I'm glad you got a kick out of my "boobs" joke; I thought it was a
great one-liner.


"Dick"

Frank
Thu May 20 20:47:10 CDT 2004


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
message news:ewrlGxqPEHA.1348@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Frank wrote:
>
> > "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> > message news:eeV8ChqPEHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> RJK wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...here you go :=)
> >>>
> >
http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp/disableservices.htm
> >>
> >> Good link.
> >
> > Except for the fact that it is _PASSE_
>
> Exactly what?


The first sentence unless one has a proprietary OEM.

kurttrail
Thu May 20 22:06:12 CDT 2004

Frank wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:ewrlGxqPEHA.1348@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:eeV8ChqPEHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> RJK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...here you go :=)
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp/disableservices.htm
>>>>
>>>> Good link.
>>>
>>> Except for the fact that it is _PASSE_
>>
>> Exactly what?
>
>
> The first sentence unless one has a proprietary OEM.

OK. I understand what you mean now. How ever one sentence doesn't make all
the info at the link "passe."

--
Peace!
Kurt
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