Warning: MS Broke ME Install

I had to reinstall my WinME yesterday and run into this.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888555/en-us

When you try to reinstall Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) on a
computer that has a previous installation of Windows Me, the installation
fails when the file copy process is 60 percent to 70 percent completed. When
this issue occurs, you may receive one or both of the following error
messages:

An error has occurred in your application. If you choose ignore you should
save your work in a new file. If you choose close, your application will
terminate.

SUWIN caused a general protection fault in module verx.dll at 0002:24AE


This issue may occur when you try to reinstall Windows Me on a computer that
has Windows Media Player 9 installed on it.

Print out the instructions on this KB before this happens to you.

Mike
Fri Feb 16 13:32:46 CST 2007

Microsoft didn't break your system, you did that by reinstalling Win Me
over itself without first having removed later version components such as
in this case WMP9. Did you remember to uninstall IE6 or didn't you
bother? If you reinstalled Win Me on a system where IE6 was installed you
are likely to screwed up your system and lost much of Internet Explorer's
functionality.

Out of curiosity why did you reinstall Win Me over itself? What problems
were you having? It's very rare indeed that a user should need to
reinstall an OS over itself and when doing so needs to take very great
care. Whilst doing this ensures that your important user files and
installed programs are retained the down side is that the registry wasn't
reset and no longer correctly records which patches have been installed
from the Windows Update site or download centre. I would therefore
strongly urge you to download and run Belarc's Adviser
(http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) as this will help you to
identify any updates that are broken and might need to be reinstalled.
Belarc uses a different mechanism to check than the Windows Update site.
I'm also concerned about possible problems you might have following the
reinstall if you had previously installed Internet Explorer 6 (IE6).
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I had to reinstall my WinME yesterday and run into this.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888555/en-us
>
> When you try to reinstall Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me)
> on a computer that has a previous installation of Windows Me, the
> installation fails when the file copy process is 60 percent to 70
> percent completed. When this issue occurs, you may receive one or
> both of the following error messages:
>
> An error has occurred in your application. If you choose ignore you
> should save your work in a new file. If you choose close, your
> application will terminate.
>
> SUWIN caused a general protection fault in module verx.dll at
> 0002:24AE
>
> This issue may occur when you try to reinstall Windows Me on a
> computer that has Windows Media Player 9 installed on it.
>
> Print out the instructions on this KB before this happens to you.

oops!!
Fri Feb 16 13:37:17 CST 2007


Eric,

Try this from DOS:

Bootup with a startup disk and at the A:> prompt type (note the spaces):

REN C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1 OLDINT

Press enter. Then type:

REN C:\PROGRA~1\WINDOW~1 OLDWMP

Press enter. Then type:

REN C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMPLOC.DLL WMPLOC.OLD

Press enter.

If you manage all changes without errors, retry installing WinME.

Good luck.


Zee


P.S.: the tilde (~) in DOS: Press ALT and type 0126 (in case your keyboard
doesn't have it).










"Eric" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uhxxn2fUHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I had to reinstall my WinME yesterday and run into this.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888555/en-us
>
> When you try to reinstall Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) on a
> computer that has a previous installation of Windows Me, the installation
> fails when the file copy process is 60 percent to 70 percent completed.
> When this issue occurs, you may receive one or both of the following error
> messages:
>
> An error has occurred in your application. If you choose ignore you should
> save your work in a new file. If you choose close, your application will
> terminate.
>
> SUWIN caused a general protection fault in module verx.dll at 0002:24AE
>
>
> This issue may occur when you try to reinstall Windows Me on a computer
> that has Windows Media Player 9 installed on it.
>
> Print out the instructions on this KB before this happens to you.
>

Eric
Fri Feb 16 13:48:50 CST 2007


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23SBk5EgUHHA.920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft didn't break your system, you did that by reinstalling Win Me
> over itself without first having removed later version components such as
> in this case WMP9. Did you remember to uninstall IE6 or didn't you
> bother? If you reinstalled Win Me on a system where IE6 was installed you
> are likely to screwed up your system and lost much of Internet Explorer's
> functionality.
>
> Out of curiosity why did you reinstall Win Me over itself? What problems
> were you having? It's very rare indeed that a user should need to
> reinstall an OS over itself and when doing so needs to take very great
> care. Whilst doing this ensures that your important user files and
> installed programs are retained the down side is that the registry wasn't
> reset and no longer correctly records which patches have been installed
> from the Windows Update site or download centre. I would therefore
> strongly urge you to download and run Belarc's Adviser
> (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) as this will help you to
> identify any updates that are broken and might need to be reinstalled.
> Belarc uses a different mechanism to check than the Windows Update site.
> I'm also concerned about possible problems you might have following the
> reinstall if you had previously installed Internet Explorer 6 (IE6).
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com

Yeah MS broke it, not I. The install doesn't work because of their Media
Player program.
I had to install it over top of itself because that is the only option.
You can't very well remove components like WMP when you can't boot into
Windows. Normal and safe mode both just sit there, so I had to reload the
OS.
The WinME setup program makes a backup of your previous install, then
installs over top. It does not have a remove previous install option. The
only way to uninstall would be to reformat and lose any other data.
I needed to reinstall it because it broke, because of errors on the drive,
because of improper shutdown, because a circuit breaker blew and I didn't
have a UPS.

I will try the Belarc program.

Eric
Fri Feb 16 14:17:58 CST 2007


"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:1s5x382p3g5uk$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
>> Yeah MS broke it, not I. The install doesn't work because of their Media
>> Player program.
>> I had to install it over top of itself because that is the only option.
>> You can't very well remove components like WMP when you can't boot into
>> Windows. Normal and safe mode both just sit there, so I had to reload
>> the
>> OS.
>
> At that point, your best option was what the construction industry calls,
> "scrape and build"; computer geeks refer to it as, "Nuke and Pave". Format
> the HDD, then reinstall Windows ME from scatch.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Shine, bright morning light,
> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
> ~singing down the hills and valleys.

Did you read my whole message? I had data on the drive I didn't want to
lose so I didn't format it. I'm sure I will end up checking the other hard
drive to save everything on it and format it and install Windows fresh on
that one and switch it to primary, but there should be an option to install
Windows over top of Windows, to simply overwrite all Windows files and
recreate the registry from scratch so you get a clean install without
formatting.

Mike
Fri Feb 16 14:19:27 CST 2007

Probably too late to be of much use.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


oops!! <notme@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Try this from DOS:
>
> Bootup with a startup disk and at the A:> prompt type (note the
> spaces):
>
> REN C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1 OLDINT
>
> Press enter. Then type:
>
> REN C:\PROGRA~1\WINDOW~1 OLDWMP
>
> Press enter. Then type:
>
> REN C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMPLOC.DLL WMPLOC.OLD
>
> Press enter.
>
> If you manage all changes without errors, retry installing WinME.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Zee
>
>
> P.S.: the tilde (~) in DOS: Press ALT and type 0126 (in case your
> keyboard doesn't have it).

Mike
Fri Feb 16 14:15:30 CST 2007

If you don't undersdtand that YOU broke it then you do have problems.

> You can't very well remove components like WMP when you can't
> boot into Windows

Very easy. All that needs to be done is rename wmploc.dll to wmploc.old
which can be done by booting to DOS from a floppy. Likewise for Internet
Explorer 6 all that is required is to rename C:\Progra~1\Intern~\ to
OldIE6 or similar.

> I needed to reinstall it because it broke, because of errors on the
> drive, because of improper shutdown, because a circuit breaker blew
> and I didn't have a UPS

None of which were reasons for a reinstall. You created your own problems
so will leave you to solve them since you clearly know so much about Win
Me.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Yeah MS broke it, not I. The install doesn't work because of their
> Media Player program.
> I had to install it over top of itself because that is the only
> option. You can't very well remove components like WMP when you can't
> boot into Windows. Normal and safe mode both just sit there, so I
> had to reload the OS.
> The WinME setup program makes a backup of your previous install, then
> installs over top. It does not have a remove previous install
> option. The only way to uninstall would be to reformat and lose any
> other data. I needed to reinstall it because it broke, because of errors
> on the
> drive, because of improper shutdown, because a circuit breaker blew
> and I didn't have a UPS.
>
> I will try the Belarc program.

Eric
Fri Feb 16 14:41:43 CST 2007


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:ucYoYigUHHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you don't undersdtand that YOU broke it then you do have problems.
>
You clearly are a moron.
I didn't do anything to break the install.
You can install WinME with no problems. You can install over top of that
with no problems. If you download Windows updates and get the latest
version of WMP you can't install it over top.

>> You can't very well remove components like WMP when you can't
>> boot into Windows
>
> Very easy. All that needs to be done is rename wmploc.dll to wmploc.old
> which can be done by booting to DOS from a floppy. Likewise for Internet
> Explorer 6 all that is required is to rename C:\Progra~1\Intern~\ to
> OldIE6 or similar.
>
Gee, booting into DOS (which can be done from the WinME CD - doesn't need a
floppy) sounds like extra steps you can do to fix the BROKEN INSTALL, like
all that stuff on that web site I linked to for the KB. You shouldn't have
to rename files to reinstall Windows, but you do because they broke the
install, which is why I started a thread to point you to their fix in case
anyone else had the same problem.

>> I needed to reinstall it because it broke, because of errors on the
>> drive, because of improper shutdown, because a circuit breaker blew
>> and I didn't have a UPS
>
> None of which were reasons for a reinstall. You created your own problems
> so will leave you to solve them since you clearly know so much about Win
> Me.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
A broken installation due to drive errors is not a reason for a reinstall?
I did check the CD and make every attempt to get back the install. I tried
scanreg /fix and it said it fixed it but it still wouldn't boot into
Windows. It seems the only option is to reinstall. The circuit breaker
overload broke the install but MS broke the reinstall. Don't bother
responding if you just insist on telling everyone that you are a moron.

Mike
Fri Feb 16 15:41:57 CST 2007

> You clearly are a moron.

Funny you should mention this as that as it is a perfect description of
yourself.

> I didn't do anything to break the install.

Of course you did but appear to be too ignorant to understand the
consequences of YOUR actions.

> You can install WinME with no problems.

Install yes, reinstall not without taking the necessary precautions first,
something that of course you didn't think to do.

> Gee, booting into DOS (which can be done from the WinME CD - doesn't
> need a floppy)

No it cannot. Microsoft Win Me CD's are not bootable. If you have a
bootable CD then this is a third party OEM CD. An easy mistake and one
that shows how little you really know about Win Me.

> You shouldn't have to rename files to reinstall Windows,

Such ignorance. Do you know anything about computers and operating
systems? There can be lots of occasions where it is necessary to remove
components from a system before reinstalling a system over itself.

> A broken installation due to drive errors is not a reason for a
> reinstall?

No, but then if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have
typed that.

> Don't bother responding if you just insist on
> telling everyone that you are a moron.

There you go again - you really are an ignorant ass. Thinks.... I wonder
which of us has made well in excess of 30,000 posts over the last 6½ years
helping those running Win Me and which one is making a total ass of
himself by displaying his ignorance of Win Me to the readers of this
newsgroup?

I can honestly say having read your posts that you well and truly deserve
all the problems you have brought on yourself.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com



Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:ucYoYigUHHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> If you don't undersdtand that YOU broke it then you do have problems.
>>
> You clearly are a moron.
> I didn't do anything to break the install.
> You can install WinME with no problems. You can install over top of
> that with no problems. If you download Windows updates and get the
> latest version of WMP you can't install it over top.
>
>>> You can't very well remove components like WMP when you can't
>>> boot into Windows
>>
>> Very easy. All that needs to be done is rename wmploc.dll to
>> wmploc.old which can be done by booting to DOS from a floppy. Likewise
>> for Internet Explorer 6 all that is required is to rename
>> C:\Progra~1\Intern~\ to OldIE6 or similar.
>>
> Gee, booting into DOS (which can be done from the WinME CD - doesn't
> need a floppy) sounds like extra steps you can do to fix the BROKEN
> INSTALL, like all that stuff on that web site I linked to for the KB.
> You shouldn't have to rename files to reinstall Windows, but you do
> because they broke the install, which is why I started a thread to
> point you to their fix in case anyone else had the same problem.
>
>>> I needed to reinstall it because it broke, because of errors on the
>>> drive, because of improper shutdown, because a circuit breaker blew
>>> and I didn't have a UPS
>>
>> None of which were reasons for a reinstall. You created your own
>> problems so will leave you to solve them since you clearly know so
>> much about Win Me.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>
> A broken installation due to drive errors is not a reason for a
> reinstall? I did check the CD and make every attempt to get back the
> install. I tried scanreg /fix and it said it fixed it but it still
> wouldn't boot into Windows. It seems the only option is to
> reinstall. The circuit breaker overload broke the install but MS
> broke the reinstall. Don't bother responding if you just insist on
> telling everyone that you are a moron.

Mike
Fri Feb 16 15:44:53 CST 2007

> there should
> be an option to install Windows over top of Windows, to simply
> overwrite all Windows files and recreate the registry from scratch so
> you get a clean install without formatting.

That's easy. If you wanted to perform a clean install without loss of
data then you should have renamed the Program Files and Windows folders
from DOS before the install.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Did you read my whole message? I had data on the drive I didn't want
> to lose so I didn't format it. I'm sure I will end up checking the
> other hard drive to save everything on it and format it and install
> Windows fresh on that one and switch it to primary, but there should
> be an option to install Windows over top of Windows, to simply
> overwrite all Windows files and recreate the registry from scratch so
> you get a clean install without formatting.

Eric
Fri Feb 16 15:59:53 CST 2007


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23fikKNhUHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You clearly are a moron.
>
> Funny you should mention this as that as it is a perfect description of
> yourself.
>
It must be a snow day for you, posting from the third grade, with your "I
know you are but what am I".

>> I didn't do anything to break the install.
>
> Of course you did but appear to be too ignorant to understand the
> consequences of YOUR actions.
>
MY actions? I ran Windows Update and it installed the latest WMP and it's
MY fault reinstall doesn't work anymore. You make no sense.

>> You can install WinME with no problems.
>
> Install yes, reinstall not without taking the necessary precautions first,
> something that of course you didn't think to do.
>
Precautions like renaming stuff from DOS? Apparently you have to do that.
I'm saying you shouldn't have to..

>> Gee, booting into DOS (which can be done from the WinME CD - doesn't
>> need a floppy)
>
> No it cannot. Microsoft Win Me CD's are not bootable. If you have a
> bootable CD then this is a third party OEM CD. An easy mistake and one
> that shows how little you really know about Win Me.
>
This shows how little you know about Windows ME because I have an official
CD with the shiny MS logo and all. It is bootable and goes to a menu where
you can select "Install", "Boot with CD support", or "Boot without CD
support", and both boot options go to a DOS prompt where you can access the
hard drive.

>> You shouldn't have to rename files to reinstall Windows,
>
> Such ignorance. Do you know anything about computers and operating
> systems? There can be lots of occasions where it is necessary to remove
> components from a system before reinstalling a system over itself.
>
Funny, I believe the install option for XP recognizes that it's already
installed and gives you the option to replace..
Remove components as in uninstall? Kinda hard to do when you can't boot
into Windows.

>> A broken installation due to drive errors is not a reason for a
>> reinstall?
>
> No, but then if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have
> typed that.
>
If you had any experience with computer problems you wouldn't have typed
that.

>> Don't bother responding if you just insist on
>> telling everyone that you are a moron.
>
> There you go again - you really are an ignorant ass. Thinks.... I wonder
> which of us has made well in excess of 30,000 posts over the last 6½ years
> helping those running Win Me and which one is making a total ass of
> himself by displaying his ignorance of Win Me to the readers of this
> newsgroup?
>
> I can honestly say having read your posts that you well and truly deserve
> all the problems you have brought on yourself.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
Don't bother responding if you just insist on
telling everyone that you are a moron.

oops!!
Fri Feb 16 16:28:58 CST 2007


Eric doesn't need help anyway...

Zee


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:u9yIYigUHHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Probably too late to be of much use.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> oops!! <notme@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Try this from DOS:
>>
>> Bootup with a startup disk and at the A:> prompt type (note the
>> spaces): REN C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1 OLDINT
>>
>> Press enter. Then type:
>>
>> REN C:\PROGRA~1\WINDOW~1 OLDWMP
>>
>> Press enter. Then type:
>>
>> REN C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMPLOC.DLL WMPLOC.OLD
>>
>> Press enter.
>>
>> If you manage all changes without errors, retry installing WinME.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> Zee
>>
>>
>> P.S.: the tilde (~) in DOS: Press ALT and type 0126 (in case your
>> keyboard doesn't have it).
>

Mike
Fri Feb 16 17:03:20 CST 2007

oops!! <notme@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Eric doesn't need help anyway...

So it appears. <vbg>
--
Mike M

Mike
Sat Feb 17 07:36:45 CST 2007

You really don't know anything about computers do you and even less about
the Win Me operating system? Rude and ignorant sums you up pretty well
and everyone reading this thread knows full well who the moron is and
that's you. Personally I think you well deserve the troubles you've
brought down on your head.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <the twit> wrote:

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:%23fikKNhUHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> You clearly are a moron.
>>
>> Funny you should mention this as that as it is a perfect description
>> of yourself.
>>
> It must be a snow day for you, posting from the third grade, with
> your "I know you are but what am I".
>
>>> I didn't do anything to break the install.
>>
>> Of course you did but appear to be too ignorant to understand the
>> consequences of YOUR actions.
>>
> MY actions? I ran Windows Update and it installed the latest WMP and
> it's MY fault reinstall doesn't work anymore. You make no sense.
>
>>> You can install WinME with no problems.
>>
>> Install yes, reinstall not without taking the necessary precautions
>> first, something that of course you didn't think to do.
>>
> Precautions like renaming stuff from DOS? Apparently you have to do
> that. I'm saying you shouldn't have to..
>
>>> Gee, booting into DOS (which can be done from the WinME CD - doesn't
>>> need a floppy)
>>
>> No it cannot. Microsoft Win Me CD's are not bootable. If you have a
>> bootable CD then this is a third party OEM CD. An easy mistake and
>> one that shows how little you really know about Win Me.
>>
> This shows how little you know about Windows ME because I have an
> official CD with the shiny MS logo and all. It is bootable and goes
> to a menu where you can select "Install", "Boot with CD support", or
> "Boot without CD support", and both boot options go to a DOS prompt
> where you can access the hard drive.
>
>>> You shouldn't have to rename files to reinstall Windows,
>>
>> Such ignorance. Do you know anything about computers and operating
>> systems? There can be lots of occasions where it is necessary to
>> remove components from a system before reinstalling a system over
>> itself.
> Funny, I believe the install option for XP recognizes that it's
> already installed and gives you the option to replace..
> Remove components as in uninstall? Kinda hard to do when you can't
> boot into Windows.
>
>>> A broken installation due to drive errors is not a reason for a
>>> reinstall?
>>
>> No, but then if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't
>> have typed that.
>>
> If you had any experience with computer problems you wouldn't have
> typed that.
>
>>> Don't bother responding if you just insist on
>>> telling everyone that you are a moron.
>>
>> There you go again - you really are an ignorant ass. Thinks.... I
>> wonder which of us has made well in excess of 30,000 posts over the
>> last 6½ years helping those running Win Me and which one is making a
>> total ass of himself by displaying his ignorance of Win Me to the
>> readers of this newsgroup?
>>
>> I can honestly say having read your posts that you well and truly
>> deserve all the problems you have brought on yourself.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>
> Don't bother responding if you just insist on
> telling everyone that you are a moron.

Mart
Sat Feb 17 10:42:20 CST 2007

"Eric someone" asserted :-

> .... booting into DOS (which can be done from the
> WinME CD - doesn't need a floppy) ....

by attempting to profess to Mike M that :-

> This shows how little you know about Windows ME
> because I have an official CD with the shiny MS logo and all.

That it might appear to be "an official CD with the shiny MS logo" doesn't
stop it from being an OEM CD which, as Mike M has conceded elsewhere and
*may* be bootable with non-standard options. That totally depends on the OEM
who supplied the CD with your system and is not 'standard'. The fact remains
that the Microsoft Millennium (Retail) CD is NOT bootable.

Perhaps you should read the cleanhd.txt document contained in the win9x
folder of the Microsoft Millennium (Retail) CD (and/or the folder containing
a complete set of WinMe installation files on your C:\ drive - assuming your
OEM has granted you a copy of them - or may even found in the Windows
folder) and get your facts straight before trying to mislead other users
with your assertions.

Or see :-"Windows Millennium Edition Cleanhd.txt File Contents" especially
the section pasted below :-
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;271673


Mart


< paste >
=====================================
INSTALLING WINDOWS MILLENNIUM EDITION
=====================================

If you use a Windows Me Emergency Startup Disk (EBD), the CD-ROM
drive is automatically assigned the drive letter two higher than
the last hard-disk partition. If you have only a C drive, the
CD-ROM drive will be E. If you have C and D hard drives, the
CD-ROM will be drive F, and so on. The drive letter immediately
after your last hard drive is assigned to the Ramdrive used by
the EBD.

To install Windows Me on the new drive:

1. Insert the Windows Millennium Edition CD in the drive.

2. To change to the CD-ROM drive, at the A prompt type E:
(or the appropriate drive letter), and then press ENTER.

3. Type the following:

setup

and then press ENTER.

4. Follow the instructions on the screen. If you have the Windows
Me Upgrade product, you must insert a CD or floppy disk from
a previous version of Windows. The instructions will tell you
when to insert the Windows Me CD back into the drive.

5. You're on the way! Just continue to follow the instructions
on the screen.
< /paste >

Mike
Sat Feb 17 11:00:09 CST 2007

Don't waste your time Mart, he obviously doesn't know or understand the
meaning of OEM.

I'm not sure about my "conceding" unless you consider the statement "If
you have a bootable CD then this is a third party OEM CD" to be a
concession. <g>

--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> "Eric someone" asserted :-
>
>> .... booting into DOS (which can be done from the
>> WinME CD - doesn't need a floppy) ....
>
> by attempting to profess to Mike M that :-
>
>> This shows how little you know about Windows ME
>> because I have an official CD with the shiny MS logo and all.
>
> That it might appear to be "an official CD with the shiny MS logo"
> doesn't stop it from being an OEM CD which, as Mike M has conceded
> elsewhere and *may* be bootable with non-standard options. That
> totally depends on the OEM who supplied the CD with your system and
> is not 'standard'. The fact remains that the Microsoft Millennium
> (Retail) CD is NOT bootable.
> Perhaps you should read the cleanhd.txt document contained in the
> win9x folder of the Microsoft Millennium (Retail) CD (and/or the
> folder containing a complete set of WinMe installation files on your
> C:\ drive - assuming your OEM has granted you a copy of them - or may
> even found in the Windows folder) and get your facts straight before
> trying to mislead other users with your assertions.
>
> Or see :-"Windows Millennium Edition Cleanhd.txt File Contents"
> especially the section pasted below :-
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;271673
>
>
> Mart
>
>
> < paste >
> =====================================
> INSTALLING WINDOWS MILLENNIUM EDITION
> =====================================
>
> If you use a Windows Me Emergency Startup Disk (EBD), the CD-ROM
> drive is automatically assigned the drive letter two higher than
> the last hard-disk partition. If you have only a C drive, the
> CD-ROM drive will be E. If you have C and D hard drives, the
> CD-ROM will be drive F, and so on. The drive letter immediately
> after your last hard drive is assigned to the Ramdrive used by
> the EBD.
>
> To install Windows Me on the new drive:
>
> 1. Insert the Windows Millennium Edition CD in the drive.
>
> 2. To change to the CD-ROM drive, at the A prompt type E:
> (or the appropriate drive letter), and then press ENTER.
>
> 3. Type the following:
>
> setup
>
> and then press ENTER.
>
> 4. Follow the instructions on the screen. If you have the Windows
> Me Upgrade product, you must insert a CD or floppy disk from
> a previous version of Windows. The instructions will tell you
> when to insert the Windows Me CD back into the drive.
>
> 5. You're on the way! Just continue to follow the instructions
> on the screen.
> < /paste >

Mart
Sat Feb 17 21:04:14 CST 2007

Mike, although time is not an issue, I wouldn't normally have chipped in on
this thread but was somewhat outraged by the shear arrogance of "Eric
someone's" claptrap on this particular statement. Consequently, I tried to
be restrained in my response.

Yes, I agree that the concept of OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer)
appears to have flown over his head at a considerable height. And Yes again,
I did consider your response/statement as a very 'gentlemanly' concession.
Sadly, it seems that "Eric someone" wouldn't recognise an olive branch if it
was handed to him on a silver salver. But, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
be constrained in my response.

Not withstanding the dubious accuracy or otherwise of his concepts,
unfortunately (for Eric), once insults were brandished, his argument is
lost.

Mart


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23PKKTUrUHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Don't waste your time Mart, he obviously doesn't know or understand the
> meaning of OEM.
>
> I'm not sure about my "conceding" unless you consider the statement "If
> you have a bootable CD then this is a third party OEM CD" to be a
> concession. <g>
>
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> "Eric someone" asserted :-
>>
>>> .... booting into DOS (which can be done from the
>>> WinME CD - doesn't need a floppy) ....
>>
>> by attempting to profess to Mike M that :-
>>
>>> This shows how little you know about Windows ME
>>> because I have an official CD with the shiny MS logo and all.
>>
>> That it might appear to be "an official CD with the shiny MS logo"
>> doesn't stop it from being an OEM CD which, as Mike M has conceded
>> elsewhere and *may* be bootable with non-standard options. That
>> totally depends on the OEM who supplied the CD with your system and
>> is not 'standard'. The fact remains that the Microsoft Millennium
>> (Retail) CD is NOT bootable.
>> Perhaps you should read the cleanhd.txt document contained in the
>> win9x folder of the Microsoft Millennium (Retail) CD (and/or the
>> folder containing a complete set of WinMe installation files on your
>> C:\ drive - assuming your OEM has granted you a copy of them - or may
>> even found in the Windows folder) and get your facts straight before
>> trying to mislead other users with your assertions.
>>
>> Or see :-"Windows Millennium Edition Cleanhd.txt File Contents"
>> especially the section pasted below :-
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;271673
>>
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> < paste >
>> =====================================
>> INSTALLING WINDOWS MILLENNIUM EDITION
>> =====================================
>>
>> If you use a Windows Me Emergency Startup Disk (EBD), the CD-ROM
>> drive is automatically assigned the drive letter two higher than
>> the last hard-disk partition. If you have only a C drive, the
>> CD-ROM drive will be E. If you have C and D hard drives, the
>> CD-ROM will be drive F, and so on. The drive letter immediately
>> after your last hard drive is assigned to the Ramdrive used by
>> the EBD.
>>
>> To install Windows Me on the new drive:
>>
>> 1. Insert the Windows Millennium Edition CD in the drive.
>>
>> 2. To change to the CD-ROM drive, at the A prompt type E:
>> (or the appropriate drive letter), and then press ENTER.
>>
>> 3. Type the following:
>>
>> setup
>>
>> and then press ENTER.
>>
>> 4. Follow the instructions on the screen. If you have the Windows
>> Me Upgrade product, you must insert a CD or floppy disk from
>> a previous version of Windows. The instructions will tell you
>> when to insert the Windows Me CD back into the drive.
>>
>> 5. You're on the way! Just continue to follow the instructions
>> on the screen.
>> < /paste >
>

Mike
Sun Feb 18 03:19:01 CST 2007

Mart.

I've no argument with that. As for Eric, one just has to remember other
threads he's been involved with in the last few weeks to now know that his
prejudices are going to get in the way of his ever understanding what
others have written.
--
Mike M


Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> Mike, although time is not an issue, I wouldn't normally have chipped
> in on this thread but was somewhat outraged by the shear arrogance of
> "Eric someone's" claptrap on this particular statement. Consequent