My computer, running WinXP Pro with 128 MB RAM, today has started acting very
strange. Although normally it has to be double-clicked to open a file or
folder, now it sometimes opens files/folders/e-mail with only one mouse
click, not two. However, it is very inconsistent, sometimes requiring two
clicks as normal, but sometimes requiring only one click.

Another symptom is that when a window is open, while browing the web, the
scroll bar on the right is very herky-jerky, but sometimes not - again being
inconsistent.

Both these problems occur pretty often - enough to be very annoying.

Another symptom is that it when I try to capture text by holding down the
mouse right-click button, it sometimes captures the text, but sometimes
refuses to, or will capture only a a small part of the text. This occurs on
web pages, but is even worse trying to capture text in this message I'm
typing right now.

Also, when I click and hold on the to blue line of a window, such as this
message I'm now typing, in order to move the non-maximized window, often
instead of moving the window it'll open it completely.

Also, when the cursor is placed at the edge of a non-maximized window to re-
size it, it often will not re-size it. If I try repeatedly, sooner or later
it will.

I use latest AVG AntiVirus and update it at least daily, and did an entire
system/computer scan, but am virus-free.

I ran spy bot search and destroy, anti adware, pest control tools, anti
spyware, anti rootkits, and also tried changing various mouse options but the
problem is still happening.

Can anyone please shed some light on what is happening, and a fix for it? Am
not very technical, so please be specific.

Thanks in advance, very much...

Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mart

Mart
Sun Jul 22 02:42:02 CDT 2007

Please note that you've posted to a WinMe newsgroup - you ought to be
posting to one of the XP groups.

However, as all of the problems appear to be 'mouse' related, can you
substitute with another mouse? Cheap ps/2 replacements can be found at
Tesco's for as little as a couple of pounds or so.

Is the mouse a 'wireless' model? - i.e. does it use batteries?
Could be that the batteries are dying and need replacing - a common cause of
an erratic mouse.

Mart


"newbie2000" <u36034@uwe> wrote in message news:758a83d0ecb74@uwe...
> My computer, running WinXP Pro with 128 MB RAM, today has started acting
> very
> strange. Although normally it has to be double-clicked to open a file or
> folder, now it sometimes opens files/folders/e-mail with only one mouse
> click, not two. However, it is very inconsistent, sometimes requiring two
> clicks as normal, but sometimes requiring only one click.
>
> Another symptom is that when a window is open, while browing the web, the
> scroll bar on the right is very herky-jerky, but sometimes not - again
> being
> inconsistent.
>
> Both these problems occur pretty often - enough to be very annoying.
>
> Another symptom is that it when I try to capture text by holding down the
> mouse right-click button, it sometimes captures the text, but sometimes
> refuses to, or will capture only a a small part of the text. This occurs
> on
> web pages, but is even worse trying to capture text in this message I'm
> typing right now.
>
> Also, when I click and hold on the to blue line of a window, such as this
> message I'm now typing, in order to move the non-maximized window, often
> instead of moving the window it'll open it completely.
>
> Also, when the cursor is placed at the edge of a non-maximized window to
> re-
> size it, it often will not re-size it. If I try repeatedly, sooner or
> later
> it will.
>
> I use latest AVG AntiVirus and update it at least daily, and did an entire
> system/computer scan, but am virus-free.
>
> I ran spy bot search and destroy, anti adware, pest control tools, anti
> spyware, anti rootkits, and also tried changing various mouse options but
> the
> problem is still happening.
>
> Can anyone please shed some light on what is happening, and a fix for it?
> Am
> not very technical, so please be specific.
>
> Thanks in advance, very much...
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Joan

Joan
Sun Jul 22 06:02:03 CDT 2007

Or when the cat's chasing it <g>
Sorry Mart I couldn't help that one <g>
Joan

Mart wrote:
> Could be that the batteries are dying and need replacing - a common
> cause of an erratic mouse.
>
> Mart



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mart

Mart
Sun Jul 22 06:58:27 CDT 2007

LOL

Mart


"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:%23oCu8%23EzHHA.5376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Or when the cat's chasing it <g>
> Sorry Mart I couldn't help that one <g>
> Joan
>
> Mart wrote:
>> Could be that the batteries are dying and need replacing - a common
>> cause of an erratic mouse.
>>
>> Mart
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Sun Jul 22 07:23:31 CDT 2007

Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> LOL

<G>

I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel Mouse
Optical) where the problem is that the wheel seems to have become what
might be thought of as frictionless. What I mean is that the slightest
movement of the mouse causes the wheel to scroll unless one holds it
static which in itself can cause further problems as I have the wheel
click set as a double click. I'm digging through s drawer of "bits"
trying to locate a spare. Ah, I've found a small laptop mouse which will
have to do for now.

Mike


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mart

Mart
Sun Jul 22 09:51:10 CDT 2007

Mike wrote :-

> I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse
> (Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical)

I've gradually been 'downsizing' my rodents, pensioning-off the older,
larger ones for smaller 'laptop' models. You don't realize how quickly you
can get used to the mini-mice until you have to revert back to an old
conventional one for some reason. Then, they're like pushing a brick around
your work top.

Mart


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:uJBGgsFzHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> LOL
>
> <G>
>
> I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel Mouse
> Optical) where the problem is that the wheel seems to have become what
> might be thought of as frictionless. What I mean is that the slightest
> movement of the mouse causes the wheel to scroll unless one holds it
> static which in itself can cause further problems as I have the wheel
> click set as a double click. I'm digging through s drawer of "bits"
> trying to locate a spare. Ah, I've found a small laptop mouse which will
> have to do for now.
>
> Mike



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Joan

Joan
Sun Jul 22 14:20:50 CDT 2007

<g> It's surprising the trouble a mouse can cause <g>

You have the same type as me Mike, well all of us here in fact, never had
any problems with the wheel so far <g>
Joan


Mike M wrote:
>
> I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel
> Mouse Optical) where the problem is that the wheel seems to have
> become what might be thought of as frictionless. What I mean is that
> the slightest movement of the mouse causes the wheel to scroll unless
> one holds it static which in itself can cause further problems as I
> have the wheel click set as a double click. I'm digging through s
> drawer of "bits" trying to locate a spare. Ah, I've found a small
> laptop mouse which will have to do for now.
>
> Mike



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Sun Jul 22 14:20:44 CDT 2007

Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> I've gradually been 'downsizing' my rodents, pensioning-off the older,
> larger ones for smaller 'laptop' models. You don't realize how
> quickly you can get used to the mini-mice until you have to revert
> back to an old conventional one for some reason. Then, they're like
> pushing a brick around your work top.

I also like the smaller laptop mice but they often have quite short tails
(leads) which is a constraint in my desktop setup so I have to use an
extension lead. The mouse I use with my laptop (which is due to return
this weekend after having been borrowed by a friend for the best part of
six months) is a small wireless mouse and I just love the freedom it gives
although I feel the way the shape of the receiver sticking out of the
laptop to be a bit of a weakness if one is moving the laptop around. A
problem I'm guessing might be avoided by using a bluetooth mouse with a BT
enabled laptop (which mine is not).
--
Mike



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Ogg

Ogg
Sun Jul 22 19:32:10 CDT 2007

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote..
> I've gradually been 'downsizing' my rodents, pensioning-off the older,
> larger ones for smaller 'laptop' models. You don't realize how quickly you
> can get used to the mini-mice until you have to revert back to an old
> conventional one for some reason. Then, they're like pushing a brick
> around your work top.

I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the little
mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that don't skimp on the
lead length.




Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Mon Jul 23 03:39:04 CDT 2007

> The key is to find mini-models that
> don't skimp on the lead length.

Spot on!
--
Mike M


Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:

> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
> don't skimp on the lead length.

Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Mon Jul 23 10:46:25 CDT 2007

Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead as
in metal or lead as in guide.

Having a blonde moment........lol.

HF
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The key is to find mini-models that
>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>
> Spot on! --
> Mike M
>
>
> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
>
>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
>> don't skimp on the lead length.



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Eric

Eric
Mon Jul 23 10:54:39 CDT 2007

I believe that would be as in cord, or tail. The thing sticking out of the
mouse which connects it to the PC.
You can avoid that issue with cordless mice, though I've seen other problems
with erratic behavior in cordless ones.
Some laptop mice now also have retractable cords, where the cord is stored
inside the mouse.
I've also had some erratic behavior with my optical mouse, which goes away
if I pick it up and put it back down.

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead as
> in metal or lead as in guide.
>
> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>
> HF
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> The key is to find mini-models that
>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>
>> Spot on! --
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
>>
>>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
>>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mart

Mart
Mon Jul 23 12:42:02 CDT 2007

My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead pipe' - his
mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!

That 'blond' enough?

Mart


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead as
> in metal or lead as in guide.
>
> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>
> HF
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> The key is to find mini-models that
>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>
>> Spot on! --
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
>>
>>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
>>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Eric

Eric
Mon Jul 23 12:56:10 CDT 2007

If you're just looking for a definition, try the dictionary
(http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary).
Look up "lead", select [noun]. I believe that would be:
3 : an insulated electrical conductor connected to an electrical device

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uubuGDVzHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead pipe' - his
> mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!
>
> That 'blond' enough?
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead as
>> in metal or lead as in guide.
>>
>> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>>
>> HF



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mart

Mart
Mon Jul 23 13:54:20 CDT 2007

Not so sure, - my guess was more along the lines of the transitive [verb]
and apart from their minor misprint, option 1c seems appropriate :- "to
serve as a channel for <a pipe _leads_ water to the mouse>"

Mart


"Eric" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%237BoBLVzHHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If you're just looking for a definition, try the dictionary
> (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary).
> Look up "lead", select [noun]. I believe that would be:
> 3 : an insulated electrical conductor connected to an electrical device
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uubuGDVzHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead pipe' - his
>> mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!
>>
>> That 'blond' enough?
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead as
>>> in metal or lead as in guide.
>>>
>>> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>>>
>>> HF
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Mon Jul 23 15:15:58 CDT 2007

Yep, that is about "blonde" enough for this redhead. (G) Now I forget
what in heck I was asking about. Sigh.....

Mart, don't grow old. Mind you, the alternative is not so hot
either......LOL!!

Da Blonde

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uubuGDVzHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead pipe' -
> his mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!
>
> That 'blond' enough?
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead
>> as in metal or lead as in guide.
>>
>> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>>
>> HF
>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>> news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> The key is to find mini-models that
>>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>>
>>> Spot on! --
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>>
>>> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
>>>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
>>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by webster72n

webster72n
Mon Jul 23 16:30:37 CDT 2007

Mart's got the right idea, no matter how 'blunt' (or is it 'blond' or
'blonde'?), the subject. All it takes is a little 'imagination'.
When it comes down to it, it all started with water, didn't it?
Who said, we weren't 'broad-minded'?

Harry.


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23ZhmKYWzHHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Yep, that is about "blonde" enough for this redhead. (G) Now I forget
> what in heck I was asking about. Sigh.....
>
> Mart, don't grow old. Mind you, the alternative is not so hot
> either......LOL!!
>
> Da Blonde
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uubuGDVzHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead pipe' -
> > his mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!
> >
> > That 'blond' enough?
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead
> >> as in metal or lead as in guide.
> >>
> >> Having a blonde moment........lol.
> >>
> >> HF
> >> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> >> news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>> The key is to find mini-models that
> >>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
> >>>
> >>> Spot on! --
> >>> Mike M
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
> >>>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
> >>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mart

Mart
Mon Jul 23 18:02:14 CDT 2007

Heather wrote :-

> Mart, don't grow old.

I don't 'do' old, Heather - well, apart from first thing of a morning.

Mart


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23ZhmKYWzHHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Yep, that is about "blonde" enough for this redhead. (G) Now I forget
> what in heck I was asking about. Sigh.....
>
> Mart, don't grow old. Mind you, the alternative is not so hot
> either......LOL!!
>
> Da Blonde
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uubuGDVzHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead pipe' - his
>> mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!
>>
>> That 'blond' enough?
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that lead as
>>> in metal or lead as in guide.
>>>
>>> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>>>
>>> HF
>>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>>> news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The key is to find mini-models that
>>>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>>>
>>>> Spot on! --
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
>>>>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
>>>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Mon Jul 23 18:35:52 CDT 2007

Me either........but I am very definitely not a *morning person*.
However, my doctor (and Elayne) seem to delight in telling me I am OLD!!
It is all relative, to coin a bad pun.

Heather

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:u8xyB2XzHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Heather wrote :-
>
>> Mart, don't grow old.
>
> I don't 'do' old, Heather - well, apart from first thing of a morning.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23ZhmKYWzHHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Yep, that is about "blonde" enough for this redhead. (G) Now I
>> forget what in heck I was asking about. Sigh.....
>>
>> Mart, don't grow old. Mind you, the alternative is not so hot
>> either......LOL!!
>>
>> Da Blonde
>>
>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:uubuGDVzHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> My guess is that Mike really means 'lead' (metal) as in 'lead
>>> pipe' - his mouse is so active that it needs to be water-cooled!
>>>
>>> That 'blond' enough?
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uQ$8hBUzHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Mild curiosity here.......what is "lead" length???? And is that
>>>> lead as in metal or lead as in guide.
>>>>
>>>> Having a blonde moment........lol.
>>>>
>>>> HF
>>>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>>>> news:OyfNuTQzHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The key is to find mini-models that
>>>>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spot on! --
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the
>>>>>> little mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that
>>>>>> don't skimp on the lead length.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Greegor

Greegor
Thu Jul 26 00:07:53 CDT 2007

Do you have a "WinModem" or "SoftModem"?
Have you removed one without removing the DRIVERS?
Read up on what's wrong with them and their drivers.

Do you have other drivers loading your system down?
Driver loading can make a computer act like it has
the computer equivalent of ADHD in people.

Look up how to clean mouse balls.
(I find cleaning the rollers more of an issue.)
There are many explanations of this online.
Several refer to the half serious half humorous
IBM document from early 1980's on
How to Clean Mouse Balls.


On Jul 22, 2:20 pm, "Joan Archer" <archer_j...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
> <g> It's surprising the trouble a mouse can cause <g>
>
> You have the same type as me Mike, well all of us here in fact, never had
> any problems with the wheel so far <g>
> Joan
>
>
>
> Mike M wrote:
>
> > I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel
> > Mouse Optical) where the problem is that the wheel seems to have
> > become what might be thought of as frictionless. What I mean is that
> > the slightest movement of the mouse causes the wheel to scroll unless
> > one holds it static which in itself can cause further problems as I
> > have the wheel click set as a double click. I'm digging through s
> > drawer of "bits" trying to locate a spare. Ah, I've found a small
> > laptop mouse which will have to do for now.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Thu Jul 26 04:24:19 CDT 2007

Laser mice have neither balls nor rollers.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Greegor <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you have a "WinModem" or "SoftModem"?
> Have you removed one without removing the DRIVERS?
> Read up on what's wrong with them and their drivers.
>
> Do you have other drivers loading your system down?
> Driver loading can make a computer act like it has
> the computer equivalent of ADHD in people.
>
> Look up how to clean mouse balls.
> (I find cleaning the rollers more of an issue.)
> There are many explanations of this online.
> Several refer to the half serious half humorous
> IBM document from early 1980's on
> How to Clean Mouse Balls.


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Eric

Eric
Thu Jul 26 07:44:17 CDT 2007

I don't see anything in this thread about the problem mouse having lasers.
Laser mice do in fact have balls and rollers, on that wheel thing between
the buttons, but that's quite a bit harder to clean.
Whenever my laser mouse acts erratically, I just pick it up and put it back
down and it fixes itself.
Otherwise I'd suggest making sure it's clean and on a proper surface, then
reinstalling drivers, and getting a new mouse if it still doesn't work
right.

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23DnHCb2zHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Laser mice have neither balls nor rollers.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Greegor <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you have a "WinModem" or "SoftModem"?
>> Have you removed one without removing the DRIVERS?
>> Read up on what's wrong with them and their drivers.
>>
>> Do you have other drivers loading your system down?
>> Driver loading can make a computer act like it has
>> the computer equivalent of ADHD in people.
>>
>> Look up how to clean mouse balls.
>> (I find cleaning the rollers more of an issue.)
>> There are many explanations of this online.
>> Several refer to the half serious half humorous
>> IBM document from early 1980's on
>> How to Clean Mouse Balls.
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Thu Jul 26 07:55:51 CDT 2007

You could try:
Eyes, Open, Read.

If you were to do so you would clearly see the post was made in response
to Joan's where she said she had the same mouse as myself - "A Microsoft
Wheel Mouse OPTICAL". OK, not laser but rather LED but regardless it has
neither ball nor rollers.

Once again you have jumped into a thread and not read what has been posted
in previous messages.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I don't see anything in this thread about the problem mouse having
> lasers. Laser mice do in fact have balls and rollers, on that wheel
> thing between the buttons, but that's quite a bit harder to clean.
> Whenever my laser mouse acts erratically, I just pick it up and put
> it back down and it fixes itself.
> Otherwise I'd suggest making sure it's clean and on a proper surface,
> then reinstalling drivers, and getting a new mouse if it still
> doesn't work right.


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Eric

Eric
Thu Jul 26 09:17:57 CDT 2007

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Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Joan

Joan
Thu Jul 26 15:44:28 CDT 2007

Mike is certainly not the idiot here as he was just answering me who was
the one who sent the thread OT by blaming the cat, then you come in
insisting he was insulting Greegor when he did nothing of the kind. If you
want to post try reading the whole conversation then you might know what
is happening and not act like a blonker who it seems just comes here to
cause trouble.
Mike has helped a lot more people with their computer problems than you
ever will and doesn't have to insult anyone to do it or make himself sound
like a smart arse either.
Joan


Eric wrote:
> Don't blame me because you're an idiot. Your post did not quote
> anything referencing a laser mouse, and the original post in the
> thread did not mention a laser mouse. Your mouse does in fact have a
> thing in it which rolls and could need cleaning, though it's not so
> easy to clean, unless you have a stupid mouse with no SCROLL WHEEL.
> Most mice, even laser mice, have wheels which can gunk up and act
> screwy.
> If Greegor was trying to help the OP, he misquoted. If he was trying
> to help YOU, the one with the problem in what he did quote, he might
> have been a little confused.
> "I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel
> Mouse Optical) where the problem is that the wheel"
> A wheel is a bit like a ball, though harder to fix. Your response,
> which did not quote anything referencing a laser mouse, was just
> plain ignorant in insulting Greegor without answering his question
> about drivers. Then you respond to me with an even more ignorant
> post. If you're just going to attack people, don't post, or at the
> very least include a quote that shows why you think someone needs to
> be corrected. Don't expect people to re-read every post up through
> the middle of the thread to find out why you bothered to respond with
> one line which is not intended to be helpful.
>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:%23b1kRU4zHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You could try:
>> Eyes, Open, Read.
>>
>> If you were to do so you would clearly see the post was made in
>> response to Joan's where she said she had the same mouse as myself -
>> "A Microsoft Wheel Mouse OPTICAL". OK, not laser but rather LED but
>> regardless it has neither ball nor rollers.
>>
>> Once again you have jumped into a thread and not read what has been
>> posted in previous messages.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see anything in this thread about the problem mouse having
>>> lasers. Laser mice do in fact have balls and rollers, on that wheel
>>> thing between the buttons, but that's quite a bit harder to clean.
>>> Whenever my laser mouse acts erratically, I just pick it up and put
>>> it back down and it fixes itself.
>>> Otherwise I'd suggest making sure it's clean and on a proper
>>> surface, then reinstalling drivers, and getting a new mouse if it
>>> still doesn't work right.



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Thu Jul 26 16:11:23 CDT 2007

WOW!! Goodonya Joanie. The guy is a total luser!! He perhaps lacks
the very equipment he is trying to advise on.......bwa ha ha!!

Figgs (and he is nothing but a troublemaker)

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:OoufEX8zHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mike is certainly not the idiot here as he was just answering me who
> was the one who sent the thread OT by blaming the cat, then you come
> in insisting he was insulting Greegor when he did nothing of the kind.
> If you want to post try reading the whole conversation then you might
> know what is happening and not act like a blonker who it seems just
> comes here to cause trouble.
> Mike has helped a lot more people with their computer problems than
> you ever will and doesn't have to insult anyone to do it or make
> himself sound like a smart arse either.
> Joan
>
>
> Eric wrote:
>> Don't blame me because you're an idiot. Your post did not quote
>> anything referencing a laser mouse, and the original post in the
>> thread did not mention a laser mouse. Your mouse does in fact have a
>> thing in it which rolls and could need cleaning, though it's not so
>> easy to clean, unless you have a stupid mouse with no SCROLL WHEEL.
>> Most mice, even laser mice, have wheels which can gunk up and act
>> screwy.
>> If Greegor was trying to help the OP, he misquoted. If he was trying
>> to help YOU, the one with the problem in what he did quote, he might
>> have been a little confused.
>> "I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel
>> Mouse Optical) where the problem is that the wheel"
>> A wheel is a bit like a ball, though harder to fix. Your response,
>> which did not quote anything referencing a laser mouse, was just
>> plain ignorant in insulting Greegor without answering his question
>> about drivers. Then you respond to me with an even more ignorant
>> post. If you're just going to attack people, don't post, or at the
>> very least include a quote that shows why you think someone needs to
>> be corrected. Don't expect people to re-read every post up through
>> the middle of the thread to find out why you bothered to respond with
>> one line which is not intended to be helpful.
>>
>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>> news:%23b1kRU4zHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You could try:
>>> Eyes, Open, Read.
>>>
>>> If you were to do so you would clearly see the post was made in
>>> response to Joan's where she said she had the same mouse as myself -
>>> "A Microsoft Wheel Mouse OPTICAL". OK, not laser but rather LED but
>>> regardless it has neither ball nor rollers.
>>>
>>> Once again you have jumped into a thread and not read what has been
>>> posted in previous messages.
>>> --
>>> Mike Maltby
>>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't see anything in this thread about the problem mouse having
>>>> lasers. Laser mice do in fact have balls and rollers, on that wheel
>>>> thing between the buttons, but that's quite a bit harder to clean.
>>>> Whenever my laser mouse acts erratically, I just pick it up and put
>>>> it back down and it fixes itself.
>>>> Otherwise I'd suggest making sure it's clean and on a proper
>>>> surface, then reinstalling drivers, and getting a new mouse if it
>>>> still doesn't work right.
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Thu Jul 26 17:12:28 CDT 2007

You really must learn to read a thread before exposing your complete and
total ignorance. I can honestly state that in the seven years that this
newsgroup has been in existence I've never come across such an ignorant
and clueless fool as yourself. If nothing else the sooner you get your
eyes tested the better for us all after which I would suggest a few
lessons in comprehension after which I would suggest a visit to your
friendly psychiatrist as you are clearly in need of his/her help.

Before you start calling others idiots you need to show that you aren't
one yourself and unlike you I at least have a record of helping those
posting to this newsgroup with problems, something you have shown yourself
to date incapable of doing.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Don't blame me because you're an idiot. Your post did not quote
> anything referencing a laser mouse, and the original post in the
> thread did not mention a laser mouse. Your mouse does in fact have a
> thing in it which rolls and could need cleaning, though it's not so
> easy to clean, unless you have a stupid mouse with no SCROLL WHEEL.
> Most mice, even laser mice, have wheels which can gunk up and act
> screwy.
> If Greegor was trying to help the OP, he misquoted. If he was trying
> to help YOU, the one with the problem in what he did quote, he might
> have been a little confused.
> "I'm currently also struggling with a wayward mouse (Microsoft Wheel
> Mouse Optical) where the problem is that the wheel"
> A wheel is a bit like a ball, though harder to fix. Your response,
> which did not quote anything referencing a laser mouse, was just
> plain ignorant in insulting Greegor without answering his question
> about drivers. Then you respond to me with an even more ignorant
> post. If you're just going to attack people, don't post, or at the
> very least include a quote that shows why you think someone needs to
> be corrected. Don't expect people to re-read every post up through
> the middle of the thread to find out why you bothered to respond with
> one line which is not intended to be helpful.


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Eric

Eric
Fri Jul 27 07:36:35 CDT 2007


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23q9OUI9zHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You really must learn to read a thread before exposing your complete and
> total ignorance. I can honestly state that in the seven years that this
> newsgroup has been in existence I've never come across such an ignorant
> and clueless fool as yourself. If nothing else the sooner you get your
> eyes tested the better for us all after which I would suggest a few
> lessons in comprehension after which I would suggest a visit to your
> friendly psychiatrist as you are clearly in need of his/her help.
>
> Before you start calling others idiots you need to show that you aren't
> one yourself and unlike you I at least have a record of helping those
> posting to this newsgroup with problems, something you have shown yourself
> to date incapable of doing.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
You made no attempt to help in this thread. Your personal attacks are
getting more ridiculous. Shut down your computer and walk it to the nearest
dumpster and never go near one again.



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Fri Jul 27 09:57:56 CDT 2007

Eric,

Your post makes no sense but that comes as no surprise given the general
lack of intelligence and knowledge you normally display when posting to
this newsgroup. I made a comment to Mart about having a problem with my
mouse, Joan commented and then you went off on a limb and started making
your typically inane comments.

If you've got anything constructive to offer that would help the original
poster, and that would indeed be a first, why not post it in response to
the original poster. I'm sure they would be most grateful for your
contribution.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

> You made no attempt to help in this thread. Your personal attacks are
> getting more ridiculous. Shut down your computer and walk it to the
> nearest dumpster and never go near one again.


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by cquirke

cquirke
Wed Aug 01 02:52:41 CDT 2007

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:24:19 +0100, "Mike M"

>Laser mice have neither balls nor rollers.

Nor lasers, AFAIK... they use LEDs, and sometimes these don't seem to
"range" well enough, so perhaps a true laser would be better?

If you ever had an optical mouse that is so "fussy" it has to run on a
sheet of plain white paper, you will know what I mean.

This is different to the "patterns on mouse pads distract optical
sensing" issue, in that these "fussy" mice are failing on surfaces
that are not patterned, just insufficiently reflective. Killers are
the top of a black PC case and glass-topped tables, but some will not
work on unscratched white formica.

Mind you, there's still a need to clean optical mice, because gunk can
build up under the hard sliding surface studs underneath the mouse.
When this happens, an attempt to move 1 pixel becomes a sticky jerk
between 0 pixels and 30 pixels.

It's not an onerous business, cleaning the undersurface to fix this,
but some smart-ass (prolly the same sort who wax lyrical about LEDs
not being lasers) may wave this at you when you deliver a new optical
mouse with the promise that it "never needs cleaning" ;-)



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Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by cquirke

cquirke
Thu Aug 02 04:25:20 CDT 2007

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:00:46 GMT, "newbie2000" <u36034@uwe> wrote:

>My computer, running WinXP Pro with 128 MB RAM

You're sure to hear "too little RAM", "XP needs 512M" (false), etc.

128M RAM will run XP OK, but it will be slow due to all the swapping.
Not all applications written for XP will work in 128M RAM.

So yes; more RAM would be better. I'd either add 256M (SDRAM) or 512M
(DDR/DDR2) or I'd replace your 128M with one of those and then add
your old 128M to another 128M or 256M RAM XP PC if you have one,
assuming it uses the same type of RAM.

But there are other things you can do...
- defrag, then set pagefile size to 512M (it's too low right now)
- if integrated graphics; CMOS Setup, allocate less RAM to this
- kill memory-wasters such as Fast User Switching

>Although normally it has to be double-clicked to open a file or
>folder, now it sometimes opens files/folders/e-mail with only one mouse
>click, not two. However, it is very inconsistent, sometimes requiring two
>clicks as normal, but sometimes requiring only one click.

I'd suspect a duff switch within the mouse that is double-triggering.

Some contexts are always one-click, e.g. toolbars such as Quick Launch

>Another symptom is that when a window is open, while browing the web, the
>scroll bar on the right is very herky-jerky, but sometimes not - again being
>inconsistent.

That may be performance-related; see stuff about low RAM above.

>Another symptom is that it when I try to capture text by holding down the
>mouse right-click button, it sometimes captures the text, but sometimes
>refuses to, or will capture only a a small part of the text. This occurs on
>web pages, but is even worse trying to capture text in this message I'm
>typing right now.

O...K...

>Also, when I click and hold on the to blue line of a window, such as this
>message I'm now typing, in order to move the non-maximized window, often
>instead of moving the window it'll open it completely.

By "blue line", do you mean the title bar? If so, this smells like
mouse double-triggering again.

>Also, when the cursor is placed at the edge of a non-maximized window to re-
>size it, it often will not re-size it. If I try repeatedly, sooner or later
>it will.

>I use latest AVG AntiVirus and update it at least daily, and did an entire
>system/computer scan, but am virus-free.

An on-demand scan of "the whole system" done within that ?infected
system is not what I would call an exclusionary test.

Google( Bart PE )

>I ran spy bot search and destroy, anti adware, pest control tools, anti
>spyware, anti rootkits, and also tried changing various mouse options but the
>problem is still happening.

Try a different mouse?



>-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
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a match to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol.
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Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by RosaButton

RosaButton
Sat Oct 13 01:09:02 PDT 2007

You can get a small mouse for your laptop with plenty of lead at Walmart for
just $15.00
--
Thanks and Have a GREAT day!


"Ogg" wrote:

> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote..
> > I've gradually been 'downsizing' my rodents, pensioning-off the older,
> > larger ones for smaller 'laptop' models. You don't realize how quickly you
> > can get used to the mini-mice until you have to revert back to an old
> > conventional one for some reason. Then, they're like pushing a brick
> > around your work top.
>
> I concur! I thought I was the only one who had an appeal for the little
> mice for regular use. The key is to find mini-models that don't skimp on the
> lead length.
>
>
>
>

Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Sat Oct 13 02:38:46 PDT 2007

Rosa Button <RosaButton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> You can get a small mouse for your laptop with plenty of lead at
> Walmart for just $15.00

Add to that US$1,000+ in travel expenses. Most of those who posted to
this thread do not live in n.America. :-)
--
Mike M


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Greegor

Greegor
Sat Oct 13 12:27:03 PDT 2007

On Oct 13, 4:38 am, "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
> Rosa Button <RosaBut...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > You can get a small mouse for your laptop with plenty of lead at
> > Walmart for just $15.00
>
> Add to that US$1,000+ in travel expenses. Most of those who posted to
> this thread do not live in n.America. :-)
> --
> Mike M

Hasn't WalMart penetrated Europe and China already?


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Mike

Mike
Sat Oct 13 12:42:45 PDT 2007

Greegor <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hasn't WalMart penetrated Europe and China already?

In the UK Walmart took over ASDA in, I think, 1999 however they still
trade as ASDA. Regardless few in their right minds would go shopping in
ADSA for a mouse. :-)
--
Mike M


Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Sat Oct 13 12:54:21 PDT 2007


"Greegor" <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192303623.936771.18750@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 13, 4:38 am, "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
>> Rosa Button <RosaBut...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > You can get a small mouse for your laptop with plenty of lead at
>> > Walmart for just $15.00
>>
>> Add to that US$1,000+ in travel expenses. Most of those who posted
>> to
>> this thread do not live in n.America. :-)
>> --
>> Mike M
>
> Hasn't WalMart penetrated Europe and China already?

Who knows?? But it certainly has pushed its way into Canada. I detest
that store!!



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Joan

Joan
Sat Oct 13 13:16:04 PDT 2007

<g> The ones round here are food supermarkets mainly anyway <g>
Joan



Mike M wrote:
>
> In the UK Walmart took over ASDA in, I think, 1999 however they still
> trade as ASDA. Regardless few in their right minds would go shopping
> in ADSA for a mouse. :-)



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by webster72n

webster72n
Sat Oct 13 13:32:40 PDT 2007


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Greegor" <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Oct 13, 4:38 am, "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
> >> Rosa Button <RosaBut...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > You can get a small mouse for your laptop with plenty of lead at
> >> > Walmart for just $15.00
> >>
> >> Add to that US$1,000+ in travel expenses. Most of those who posted
> >> to
> >> this thread do not live in n.America. :-)
> >> --
> >> Mike M
> >
> > Hasn't WalMart penetrated Europe and China already?
>
> Who knows?? But it certainly has pushed its way into Canada. I detest
> that store!!

The founder of WalMart is one of Mr. Bush's buddies (from Texas) and He and
the family are worth billions now, thanks to buying for pennies from China
and selling for dollars in the US. The parking lots of their stores around
here, including Sam's Club, are filled most of the time, especially on
weekends. People don't seem to care where it comes from, as long as they
save money themselves. A good portion of them are spanish speaking also.
How can you change a trend??? <H>.

>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Sat Oct 13 15:03:41 PDT 2007


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> The founder of WalMart is one of Mr. Bush's buddies (from Texas) and
> He and
> the family are worth billions now, thanks to buying for pennies from
> China
> and selling for dollars in the US. The parking lots of their stores
> around
> here, including Sam's Club, are filled most of the time, especially on
> weekends. People don't seem to care where it comes from, as long as
> they
> save money themselves. A good portion of them are spanish speaking
> also. How can you change a trend???
> <H>.
>
Simple.....we avoid shopping in WalMart. They (and those Krispy Kreme
donut stores) are not doing so well up here. We do NOT like spending
our money in blatantly American stores.

You refer to *spanish-speaking*......I will be more blunt and tell you
that the majority that shop in WalMart up here are from the West Indies
and India.

Btw......your Hispanic Witchhunt in the US is totally disgusting!! I no
longer watch any news on American stations for that very reason.

Sra. Heather



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by webster72n

webster72n
Sun Oct 14 17:57:48 PDT 2007


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > The founder of WalMart is one of Mr. Bush's buddies (from Texas) and
> > He and
> > the family are worth billions now, thanks to buying for pennies from
> > China
> > and selling for dollars in the US. The parking lots of their stores
> > around
> > here, including Sam's Club, are filled most of the time, especially on
> > weekends. People don't seem to care where it comes from, as long as
> > they
> > save money themselves. A good portion of them are spanish speaking
> > also. How can you change a trend???
> > <H>.
> >
> Simple.....we avoid shopping in WalMart.

Can't help wondering who the 'we's are?
I was referring to the 'majority' of the people in general. There is no way
for them to be guided by 'your' principles, instead of their 'pocket book'
or 'wallet', if you will.
That 'wich hunt' you are referring to, is totally unbeknown to me, to the
contrary, they find more support here than other nationalities.
Soon we'll all be 'friends' anyway, just give it some time.

Harry.

> They (and those Krispy Kreme
> donut stores) are not doing so well up here. We do NOT like spending
> our money in blatantly American stores.
>
> You refer to *spanish-speaking*......I will be more blunt and tell you
> that the majority that shop in WalMart up here are from the West Indies
> and India.
>
> Btw......your Hispanic Witchhunt in the US is totally disgusting!! I no
> longer watch any news on American stations for that very reason.
>
> Sra. Heather
>
>



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by Heather

Heather
Mon Oct 15 11:49:52 PDT 2007


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>> >
>> > The founder of WalMart is one of Mr. Bush's buddies (from Texas)
>> > and
>> > He and
>> > the family are worth billions now, thanks to buying for pennies
>> > from
>> > China
>> > and selling for dollars in the US. The parking lots of their stores
>> > around
>> > here, including Sam's Club, are filled most of the time, especially
>> > on
>> > weekends. People don't seem to care where it comes from, as long as
>> > they
>> > save money themselves. A good portion of them are spanish speaking
>> > also. How can you change a trend???
>> > <H>.
>> >
>> Simple.....we avoid shopping in WalMart.
>
> Can't help wondering who the 'we's are?
> I was referring to the 'majority' of the people in general. There is
> no way
> for them to be guided by 'your' principles, instead of their 'pocket
> book'
> or 'wallet', if you will.

The *WE* people are those of us who do not like putting money in Sam
Walton's pockets. WE are called Canadians!! And you might be surprised
to know that there are other stores where people can get bargains and
such besides WalMart.

> That 'wich hunt' you are referring to, is totally unbeknown to me, to
> the
> contrary, they find more support here than other nationalities.

Guess you don't watch TV or read a newspaper then.



Re: Sudden Abnormal mouse erratic behaviour by webster72n

webster72n
Mon Oct 15 16:18:17 PDT 2007


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23ctA6edDIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The founder of WalMart is one of Mr. Bush's buddies (from Texas)
> >> > and
> >> > He and
> >> > the family are worth billions now, thanks to buying for pennies
> >> > from
> >> > China
> >> > and selling for dollars in the US. The parking lots of their stores
> >> > around
> >> > here, including Sam's Club, are filled most of the time, especially
> >> > on
> >> > weekends. People don't seem to care where it comes from, as long as
> >> > they
> >> > save money themselves. A good portion of them are spanish speaking
> >> > also. How can you change a trend???
> >> > <H>.
> >> >
> >> Simple.....we avoid shopping in WalMart.
> >
> > Can't help wondering who the 'we's are?
> > I was referring to the 'majority' of the people in general. There is
> > no way
> > for them to be guided by 'your' principles, instead of their 'pocket
> > book'
> > or 'wallet', if you will.
>
> The *WE* people are those of us who do not like putting money in Sam
> Walton's pockets. WE are called Canadians!! And you might be surprised
> to know that there are other stores where people can get bargains and
> such besides WalMart.
>
> > That 'wich hunt' you are referring to, is totally unbeknown to me, to
> > the
> > contrary, they find more support here than other nationalities.
>
> Guess you don't watch TV or read a newspaper then.
>
>

You may be Canadian, but you are definitely not speaking for all of them, or
the WalMart stores 'up there' would be empty, which I doubt to be the case.
Don't worry about me 'reading the paper' or 'watching tv', I'm living it
right here.
What was the subject, again???