Restart in MS-DOS mode + (Shift) Restart not present ?

Hi,

I`ve been trying to search these pages, but the Search
always gives me time-out (even while searching just within 1
month). Other techforums didn`t help me too, so sorry if it`s
obvious, but:

1. How can I restart Win ME in MS-DOS ? Yes, Boot Disk
works, but it`s rather inconvenient&slow. Pressing either F5
or F8 right after reset doesn`t help either, it simply is not in
the menu. Many times (like deleting fonts physically in
DOS, since Win doesn`t allow their uninstall even in Safe
mode), the DOS is needed.

2. How can I do a fast restart like in Win98 with Shift ? If I
enable it in X-Teq Setup, it doesn`t change anything. I mean,
whole PC restart is prettty fast, under 10 seconds with all
icons loaded, but if I could restart just windows and not
whole computer, it would be even better - although it has to
be said, that WinME is far more stable than Win98 and is
capable of running nonstop for 3 days while downloading,
programming, browsing and playing games.

Both of these problems are annoying me for quite a time, yet
I can`t seem to find a working solution on a net on them -
what i find is either - "it should work", or "forget about it - it`s
Win ME."

Anyone willing to help ?

Thanks for your time.

Mike
Tue Aug 12 08:26:26 CDT 2003

Win Me doesn't use real mode therefore you cannot boot to DOS other than by
using a floppy. As for deleting a font requiring DOS, that isn't true
although some basic system fonts are sensibly covered by Win Me's System File
Protection.

There are a number of hacks available but if you want to take that route
you're on your own and won't be able to get help in these NGs.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


Joe <Joe123@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I`ve been trying to search these pages, but the Search
> always gives me time-out (even while searching just within 1
> month). Other techforums didn`t help me too, so sorry if it`s
> obvious, but:
>
> 1. How can I restart Win ME in MS-DOS ? Yes, Boot Disk
> works, but it`s rather inconvenient&slow. Pressing either F5
> or F8 right after reset doesn`t help either, it simply is not in
> the menu. Many times (like deleting fonts physically in
> DOS, since Win doesn`t allow their uninstall even in Safe
> mode), the DOS is needed.
>
> 2. How can I do a fast restart like in Win98 with Shift ? If I
> enable it in X-Teq Setup, it doesn`t change anything. I mean,
> whole PC restart is prettty fast, under 10 seconds with all
> icons loaded, but if I could restart just windows and not
> whole computer, it would be even better - although it has to
> be said, that WinME is far more stable than Win98 and is
> capable of running nonstop for 3 days while downloading,
> programming, browsing and playing games.
>
> Both of these problems are annoying me for quite a time, yet
> I can`t seem to find a working solution on a net on them -
> what i find is either - "it should work", or "forget about it - it`s
> Win ME."
>
> Anyone willing to help ?
>
> Thanks for your time.

Mike
Tue Aug 12 11:20:46 CDT 2003

> OK, so a restart in MS-DOS is actually not possible under
> Win ME ? Even not into command prompt before starting the
> windows ?

No. For the reason already stated.

As for uninstalling any of the four Arial Narrow fonts installed by MS Office
I have no problem whatsoever in uninstalling them in Win Me and does not
require working from a DOS prompt. Look for another reason for this being a
problem. Check your fonts folder? Does it include "Install New Font" and an
option on File? If not, then you need to repair the folder.

There is no need for any quick restart option as this is the default for Win
Me since it no longer uses real mode. Such an option is only relevant where
real mode is in use.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


Joe <joe123@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OK, so a restart in MS-DOS is actually not possible under
> Win ME ? Even not into command prompt before starting the
> windows ?
>
> The problem with font is that in MSVC++6.0 I use Arial
> Narrow font which is of course not a standard font in WInME,
> it`s installed additionally. However, when I installed Office97,
> it rewrote the fonts, and suddenly Arial Narrow was too
> Bold, almost unreadable (no change between normal and
> bold typeface). Control Panel didn`t help me with uninstall
> stating that Arial Narrow is a basic system font (which
> obviously isn`t true). Even when I uninstalled Office97 it
> didn`t help., my source code was hardly readable with that
> bold font (yes i could use another font, but if you`re coder
> you know how it feels to change the font in Editor). Therefore
> I had to go to Dos and delete the files manually in
> appropriate subdirectory. Then I installed Arial Narrow again,
> and voila, Visual C++ code was again readable with good old
> Arial Narrow 9.
> Naturally, previous numerous restarts and reinstalls of Arial
> Narrow didn`t help, that`s why I needed to erase it physically.
>
> By those hacks you mean some undocumented way to
> quick-restart the Win ME ? Can I at least know if it does hurt
> stability ?
>
> Thank you very much
> Joe

Monty
Tue Aug 12 22:10:31 CDT 2003

peanut <zdufferr@zhotmail.com> had the fingers to type in message
news:fmsijv09551qa2ko79a2ssa2qcaiqqbbs4@4ax.com:

> Hi Joe
> It would be best, and more appropriate to ask these questions in
> alt.windows-me where you may find the answers you are looking for.
> HTH

Honestly, this newsgroup is about a 1000 times better than alt.windows-me for
questions like the one Joe had. alt.windows-me is an insane asylum on the
web. Do a service and don't send ANYBODY over there. Please.

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peanut
Wed Aug 13 05:18:22 CDT 2003

Ok
Joe do a google search for "real dos mode patch for windows millenium"
But heed warnings.
gary

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:10:31 -0700, Monty <spamsucks@invalid.com>
wrote:

>peanut <zdufferr@zhotmail.com> had the fingers to type in message
>news:fmsijv09551qa2ko79a2ssa2qcaiqqbbs4@4ax.com:
>
>> Hi Joe
>> It would be best, and more appropriate to ask these questions in
>> alt.windows-me where you may find the answers you are looking for.
>> HTH
>
>Honestly, this newsgroup is about a 1000 times better than alt.windows-me for
>questions like the one Joe had. alt.windows-me is an insane asylum on the
>web. Do a service and don't send ANYBODY over there. Please.