Resources/Mouse Question

When I start my Windows ME machine I am at the 80% resource level. I think
I have taken all I can out of startup using msconfig but I have a Logitech
optical mouse, Avast! anti-virus, Internet Call Waiting and Adaptec cd which
are so integral I need them there. And I have visited the normal sites for
help in minimizing start up programs.

After I have been on the web for two or three hours, using IE 5.5, my
resource level drops to the 60% area, with no programs running. At that
point the mouse cursor cannot quickly follow the mouse movement, to the
point where it is annoying. Below 60% resource level, say at the 55% level,
the cursor delay is really impossible, requiring a reboot. Is there
anything that can be done about this in Windows ME besides starting at a
higher resource level, by deleting more start-up auto-run programs and thus
prolonging the time to reboot?

heirloom
Sat Feb 07 09:40:51 CST 2004

Get a copy of Process Explorer, free from www.sysinternals.com . This
little app will tell you exactly what is eating your cpu cycles in %. I
suspect there may be something running that you are unaware of (a lot of
processes do not show in the End Task window). Hope that helps.
Heirloom, old and it's a good app

"Harvey" <hcohenREMOVE@eznet.THISnet> wrote in message
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> When I start my Windows ME machine I am at the 80% resource level. I
think
> I have taken all I can out of startup using msconfig but I have a Logitech
> optical mouse, Avast! anti-virus, Internet Call Waiting and Adaptec cd
which
> are so integral I need them there. And I have visited the normal sites
for
> help in minimizing start up programs.
>
> After I have been on the web for two or three hours, using IE 5.5, my
> resource level drops to the 60% area, with no programs running. At that
> point the mouse cursor cannot quickly follow the mouse movement, to the
> point where it is annoying. Below 60% resource level, say at the 55%
level,
> the cursor delay is really impossible, requiring a reboot. Is there
> anything that can be done about this in Windows ME besides starting at a
> higher resource level, by deleting more start-up auto-run programs and
thus
> prolonging the time to reboot?
>
>
>

Harvey
Sat Feb 07 19:30:17 CST 2004


"heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
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> Get a copy of Process Explorer, free from www.sysinternals.com . This
> little app will tell you exactly what is eating your cpu cycles in %. I
> suspect there may be something running that you are unaware of (a lot of
> processes do not show in the End Task window). Hope that helps.
> Heirloom, old and it's a good app
I did that and while my resources are now at 63%, my cpu is at idle 97%,
Process Explorer 3%.

heirloom
Sat Feb 07 21:49:12 CST 2004

With your mouse 'stuttering', I sure thought you would find something. Was
the mouse acting up when you were looking at the Process Explorer? I know,
Ron Martell (MS-MVP), highly recommends periodic restarts to "clear the air"
in Me, especially if there are Norton apps involved.

Have a look here for some background reading on memory and resource
issues.
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/resource.htm

Sorry I was not of more help......hopefully, one of the gurus will pop in
shortly and shed some light on the issue.
Heirloom, old and tried


"Harvey" <hcohenREMOVE@eznet.THISnet> wrote in message
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>
> "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> news:#C0VXCZ7DHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Get a copy of Process Explorer, free from www.sysinternals.com . This
> > little app will tell you exactly what is eating your cpu cycles in %.
I
> > suspect there may be something running that you are unaware of (a lot of
> > processes do not show in the End Task window). Hope that helps.
> > Heirloom, old and it's a good app
> I did that and while my resources are now at 63%, my cpu is at idle 97%,
> Process Explorer 3%.
>
>

Rick
Sat Feb 07 23:19:35 CST 2004

Harvey wrote:

> "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> news:#C0VXCZ7DHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>>Get a copy of Process Explorer, free from www.sysinternals.com . This
>>little app will tell you exactly what is eating your cpu cycles in %. I
>>suspect there may be something running that you are unaware of (a lot of
>>processes do not show in the End Task window). Hope that helps.
>> Heirloom, old and it's a good app
>
> I did that and while my resources are now at 63%, my cpu is at idle 97%,
> Process Explorer 3%.
>
>

Some things you can try to pinpoint the problem:

unload the antivirus-checker (from <Ctrl-Alt-Del> Close Program)

reduce the memory cache/increase the disk-cache for IE

Download and install a memory-defragmenter

Note that:
You don't need the Adaptec software running unless you're actually
burning a CD.
Unless you use the middle-button, you don't need the Logitech software
either (though this is a pretty benign driver)

Restart IE more often.


HTH


Rick

heirloom
Sun Feb 08 00:25:44 CST 2004

Thanks for the 'assist', Rick. Good words. I think you may hit some flack
with the 'memory manager' idea, however. The general consensus amongst the
gurus is that they are not much more than 'snake oil.'
Heirloom, old and 'preciate help

"Rick" <plinnane3NO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Harvey wrote:
>
> > "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> > news:#C0VXCZ7DHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>Get a copy of Process Explorer, free from www.sysinternals.com . This
> >>little app will tell you exactly what is eating your cpu cycles in %.
I
> >>suspect there may be something running that you are unaware of (a lot of
> >>processes do not show in the End Task window). Hope that helps.
> >> Heirloom, old and it's a good app
> >
> > I did that and while my resources are now at 63%, my cpu is at idle 97%,
> > Process Explorer 3%.
> >
> >
>
> Some things you can try to pinpoint the problem:
>
> unload the antivirus-checker (from <Ctrl-Alt-Del> Close Program)
>
> reduce the memory cache/increase the disk-cache for IE
>
> Download and install a memory-defragmenter
>
> Note that:
> You don't need the Adaptec software running unless you're actually
> burning a CD.
> Unless you use the middle-button, you don't need the Logitech software
> either (though this is a pretty benign driver)
>
> Restart IE more often.
>
>
> HTH
>
>
> Rick

Rick
Sun Feb 08 01:28:23 CST 2004

heirloom wrote:

> Thanks for the 'assist', Rick. Good words. I think you may hit some flack
> with the 'memory manager' idea, however. The general consensus amongst the
> gurus is that they are not much more than 'snake oil.'
> Heirloom, old and 'preciate help
>

Well, you have to run it when you're having problems, not when you're not.

What does the process explorer do, anyways ?

Rick
who currently has over half a gigabyte of main memory and (after fixing
the vcache settings) doesn't worry about running out of RAM, or
needing a static swap file, but used to run win95 on a 386 with 8mb
where memory defragging/management wasn't an option so much as a necessity.

heirloom
Sun Feb 08 10:31:21 CST 2004

Process Explorer is an excellent little app that will show you EVERY process
running on your machine and the amount of cpu usage in %. It will show the
background processes that are not shown using Ctrl-Alt-Del for the End Task
window. It has a number of features, too lengthy to mention here....if you
are curious, check it out at www.sysinternals.com .
Heirloom, old and use it

"Rick" <plinnane3NO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> heirloom wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the 'assist', Rick. Good words. I think you may hit some
flack
> > with the 'memory manager' idea, however. The general consensus amongst
the
> > gurus is that they are not much more than 'snake oil.'
> > Heirloom, old and 'preciate help
> >
>
> Well, you have to run it when you're having problems, not when you're not.
>
> What does the process explorer do, anyways ?
>
> Rick
> who currently has over half a gigabyte of main memory and (after fixing
> the vcache settings) doesn't worry about running out of RAM, or
> needing a static swap file, but used to run win95 on a 386 with 8mb
> where memory defragging/management wasn't an option so much as a
necessity.