SleeplessinNewJersey
Sun Feb 06 20:53:02 CST 2005
The error messages and other matters are detailed in my opening post to this
thread.
"Noel Paton" wrote:
> Thanks for filling the gap, Mart!
> (It's been a busy week here)
>
> We still don't know the extent of the problems on the affected PC - so far
> all we have is a rather vague 'The CD doesn't work', and
> "Windows Explorer is causing an error on start-up that prevents completion
> of
> the boot. An error window pops up stating this. I click on OK and the
> window closes only to pop up again and again."
>
> We need to know the EXACT error message, before we can offer specific
> advice.
>
> In the meantime, running ScanDisk from DOS, and following with an AV scan
> and spyware scan in Safe Mode may help matters.
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eU%23DJY7CFHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Alfred, - not too sure what Noel was going to suggest you do in Real Mode
> > DOS (i.e. after booting, using your 'new' WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk).
> > BUT, one thing you cannot do - is to boot into WinMe!
> >
> > From the A:\> prompt, you have a number 'tools' or utilities at your
> > disposal and not having a copy of Noel's post, I'm not sure what his
> > strategy was to be.
> >
> > In the meantime, if you have a copy of an MS WinMe CD (may not be
> > available on an OEM CD) take a look in the 'tools' folder for the
> > 'oldmsdos' folder and run "help.com" (It will run in a 'Windows' window).
> > This will give you a pretty comprehensive list with descriptions and
> > examples of use, for (almost) all the DOS commands available. - Just a
> > little bit of homework to be going on with - and to maintain those
> > sleepless nights <g>
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "Sleepless in New Jersey" <SleeplessinNewJersey@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote in message
> > news:968C9F11-63D2-4FD2-A5C3-D64A34187595@microsoft.com...
> >> Thanks for your swift reply Jack. My BIOS is set to boot first from A.
> >> My
> >> problem is that once I have created the boot floppy, inserted it, and
> >> booted
> >> from it, I see the A:\ prompt and don't know what to do next. It's been
> >> a
> >> long time since I have booted from a floppy. Can you help me with this?
> >>
> >> "Jim Dell" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Your BIOS must be set to look at the floppy before it looks at your hard
> >>> drive. Watch your boot screen very closely and it will probably tell you
> >>> to push the DEL key or f2 or some other key to get into your bios setup.
> >>> Be very careful not to change anything but the boot sequence.
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sleepless in New Jersey wrote:
> >>> > To: Jack Martinelli
> >>> > From:Sleepless etc.
> >>> > Subj:Booting from a start-up floppy
> >>> >
> >>> > Can you help me?
> >>> >
> >>> > In my first thread Noel Paton advised me to go to www.bootdisk.com and
> >>> > download the OEM Win ME, run the program to create the floppy (on a
> >>> > borrowed
> >>> > PC running XP). I have done so. I think I know how to create a DOS
> >>> > boot
> >>> > floppy on my problem PC. The problem is that I have forgotten how to
> >>> > boot
> >>> > from a floppy. I see the A:\ prompt and don't know how and what to
> >>> > type in.
> >>> >
> >>> > My original thread is old now and I fear nobody is reading it and I
> >>> > could
> >>> > not effectively reach Jack.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have searched for online help. There are plenty of sites (though
> >>> > mostly
> >>> > for Linux on creating a boot floppy, but I could nothing on booting
> >>> > from a
> >>> > floppy.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Jack E Martinelli" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >>Try this first:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>KB 816506 - The removeNode() Function in a Script Call May Cause an
> >>> >>Access
> >>> >>Violation in Mshtml.dll:
> >>> >>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816506
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Version 1173 of mshtml.dll may be downloaded directly from Microsoft
> >>> >>at this
> >>> >>link:
> >>> >>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=878c5cd5-0a58-40e8-a963-7496c71d1f40&DisplayLang=en
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I recommend using a PC with a CD-RW drive and burn copies of the setup
> >>> >>files
> >>> >>of your various tools to it for transport to the problematic machine.
> >>> >>A new one costs ca. $US 35.00 today, or less.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>--
> >>> >>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> >>> >>Help us help you:
http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> >>> >>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >>> >>------
> >>> >>"Sleepless in New Jersey"
> >>> >><SleeplessinNewJersey@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>> >>wrote in message
> >>> >>news:B47E009C-76D1-4938-904B-E54F425F1BF0@microsoft.com...
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>This a continuation of my earlier post - Repairing ME.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>On monday I booted up in Safe Mode. I got an error message from
> >>> >>>Helpctr
> >>> >>>stating that it had caused an error in MSHTML.DLL. This DLL appeared
> >>> >>>more
> >>> >>>than once afterward. I closed the window without any problem and
> >>> >>
> >>> >>completed
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>the boot.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I opened Device Manager and removed the Toshiba CD-ROM drive. There
> >>> >>>were
> >>> >>
> >>> >>no
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>error-flagged devices. "Other" contained two unknown devices. I
> >>> >>>removed
> >>> >>>them.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I rebooted in Normal Mode. Eventually I got the usual error message
> >>> >>>"Explorer has caused an error in MSHTML.DLL." I closed the window,
> >>> >>>and of
> >>> >>>course it came back again and again. I couldn't get past it. This
> >>> >>>error
> >>> >>>stopped the boot.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>There was a second error window: Run time error. "Component
> >>> >>>MSCOMCTLOCX
> >>> >>
> >>> >>or
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing
> >>> >>>or
> >>> >>>invalid" I was able to close this window without further effect. Of
> >>> >>
> >>> >>course
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>the Explorer error message returned.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I rebooted in Safe Mode and got that Helpctr error message. I closed
> >>> >>>it
> >>> >>
> >>> >>and
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>did something I should have done two weeks ago. I tried to run
> >>> >>>System
> >>> >>>Restore. Eventually I got an error message from System Restore: "
> >>> >>>Rstrui
> >>> >>
> >>> >>has
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>caused an error in MSHTML.DLL. Helpctr will now close." I couldn't
> >>> >>>get
> >>> >>
> >>> >>any
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>further with System Restore. That was perhaps a pity because there
> >>> >>>is a
> >>> >>>hidden Restore folder on drive C.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I rebooted in Safe Mode. I had recently down loaded Spybot Search &
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Destroy
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>and Ad-Aware SE Personal and installed them. I ran Spybot. It found
> >>> >>>some
> >>> >>>items. I had them removed. This did not complete. The program
> >>> >>>seemed to
> >>> >>>have hung. I closed it, which I now think I shouldn't have done.
> >>> >>>Right
> >>> >>>after this the Explorer problem began.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I rebooted and ran Spybot and Ad-Aware. They both found items.
> >>> >>>Ad-Aware
> >>> >>>found over 300 items.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I removed all of them and rebooted in Normal Mode. Nothing had
> >>> >>>changed.
> >>> >>>The error messages popped up and the boot was dead. I rebooted in
> >>> >>>Safe
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Mode
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>and got the error message from Helpctr. Thinking that installation
> >>> >>>of
> >>> >>
> >>> >>these
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>programs and WiZ, also a recent download, may have caused problems, I
> >>> >>>went
> >>> >>
> >>> >>to
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>Add/Remove Software and removed the anti-spyware programs. I had to
> >>> >>
> >>> >>remove
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>WiZ manually. Nothing changed and I began to regret removing these
> >>> >>>three
> >>> >>>programs.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I should note that the Sophos virus checker runs on boot-up. I has
> >>> >>>never
> >>> >>>found anything. The subscription is out-of-date. Since we can't
> >>> >>>access
> >>> >>
> >>> >>the
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>Internet, there is no way to update it online
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>On thursday I plan to borrow a PC with a floppy drive. (I don't have
> >>> >>>a
> >>> >>>floppy drive at home.) It runs Windows XP Professional. I will
> >>> >>>download
> >>> >>>Diskmaker, Stinger, the CWShredder files and Ad-Aware SE Personal to
> >>> >>>diskettes and install and run them, hopefully on friday. (I hope
> >>> >>>that
> >>> >>
> >>> >>each
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>of them will fit on a single floppy.) I may download Spybot S&D. It
> >>> >>>says
> >>> >>
> >>> >>it
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>backs up the registry before scanning. Perhaps I should have paid
> >>> >>>more
> >>> >>>attention to this when things went wrong. I will report back.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>Thanks again for your help.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>Alfred Bowman
> >>>
> >
> >
>
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