I downloaded a couple of stand alone, freware programs, I tried to get rid of
them but...there was no unistall feature built into the programs and the
programs were not listed under the add/remove program, their web sites
support was 'pay for help'. I dragged the progams into my trash, empited the
trash and restarted. The programs location under properties were listed as
being on my desktop, (not a shortcut on the desktop). Now when I start my
computer in safe mode and right hand click the 'my computer' logo and
go>properties>performace...I get a message that says "Real mode driver or
memory resident program loaded in config.sys or autoexec.bat file" and when I
click for more info I get..."Drive X is using an MS-DOS mode file system, a
driver listed in the Config.sys file" and also "Compatibility mode reduces
overall system performace"...How do I get rid of this program. I am not a
wizkid at computers but I can follow instructions, I could use some help on
how to rid these programs off my computer.

Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by Rick

Rick
Tue Jun 28 10:55:42 CDT 2005

Jillyfish wrote:
> I downloaded a couple of stand alone, freware programs, I tried to get rid of
> them but...there was no unistall feature built into the programs and the
> programs were not listed under the add/remove program, their web sites
> support was 'pay for help'. I dragged the progams into my trash, empited the
> trash and restarted. The programs location under properties were listed as
> being on my desktop, (not a shortcut on the desktop). Now when I start my
> computer in safe mode and right hand click the 'my computer' logo and
> go>properties>performace...I get a message that says "Real mode driver or
> memory resident program loaded in config.sys or autoexec.bat file" and when I
> click for more info I get..."Drive X is using an MS-DOS mode file system, a
> driver listed in the Config.sys file" and also "Compatibility mode reduces
> overall system performace"...How do I get rid of this program. I am not a
> wizkid at computers but I can follow instructions, I could use some help on
> how to rid these programs off my computer.

When ya clean ya gotta get in the corners as well...

Start/Run/msconfig.exe (Startup Tab) to clean the stuff out of Windows
Startup, and

edit c:\config.sys, c:\autoexec.bat, c:\msdos.sys with Notepad to remove
stuff from those places (you may have to change the Folder Properties of
C:\; if you can't find those files, uncheck "Hide System Files")... note
that in msdos.sys all those "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"s are
supposed to be there.


Rick

Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by David

David
Tue Jun 28 11:21:30 CDT 2005

From: "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com>


|
| When ya clean ya gotta get in the corners as well...
|
| Start/Run/msconfig.exe (Startup Tab) to clean the stuff out of Windows
| Startup, and
|
| edit c:\config.sys, c:\autoexec.bat, c:\msdos.sys with Notepad to remove
| stuff from those places (you may have to change the Folder Properties of
| C:\; if you can't find those files, uncheck "Hide System Files")... note
| that in msdos.sys all those "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"s are
| supposed to be there.
|
| Rick

CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT are not interpreted in WinME. The OS will only parse the files
for Environmental variables and update the OS accordingly.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by David

David
Tue Jun 28 11:23:43 CDT 2005

From: "Jillyfish" <Jillyfish@discussions.microsoft.com>

| I downloaded a couple of stand alone, freware programs, I tried to get rid of
| them but...there was no unistall feature built into the programs and the
| programs were not listed under the add/remove program, their web sites
| support was 'pay for help'. I dragged the progams into my trash, empited the
| trash and restarted. The programs location under properties were listed as
| being on my desktop, (not a shortcut on the desktop). Now when I start my
| computer in safe mode and right hand click the 'my computer' logo and
go>> properties>performace...I get a message that says "Real mode driver or
| memory resident program loaded in config.sys or autoexec.bat file" and when I
| click for more info I get..."Drive X is using an MS-DOS mode file system, a
| driver listed in the Config.sys file" and also "Compatibility mode reduces
| overall system performace"...How do I get rid of this program. I am not a
| wizkid at computers but I can follow instructions, I could use some help on
| how to rid these programs off my computer.

You need to look at the Device Manager in normal Mode and remove those items with a yellow
exclamation mak and then reboot the PC. Those devices should Plug 'n Play and reinstall,
hopefully properly.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



RE: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by Jillyfish

Jillyfish
Tue Jun 28 13:59:02 CDT 2005

Rick and David thanks for responding...I ran the 'system configuration
utility' but I could not find a edit feature anywhere. I do have my 'show
hidden folders' clicked to see them....I also checked the 'device manager' in
normal mode and there was no yellow exclamation marks there. And I looked
each folder that was there....What else can I check? thanks JILL

"Jillyfish" wrote:

> I downloaded a couple of stand alone, freware programs, I tried to get rid of
> them but...there was no unistall feature built into the programs and the
> programs were not listed under the add/remove program, their web sites
> support was 'pay for help'. I dragged the progams into my trash, empited the
> trash and restarted. The programs location under properties were listed as
> being on my desktop, (not a shortcut on the desktop). Now when I start my
> computer in safe mode and right hand click the 'my computer' logo and
> go>properties>performace...I get a message that says "Real mode driver or
> memory resident program loaded in config.sys or autoexec.bat file" and when I
> click for more info I get..."Drive X is using an MS-DOS mode file system, a
> driver listed in the Config.sys file" and also "Compatibility mode reduces
> overall system performace"...How do I get rid of this program. I am not a
> wizkid at computers but I can follow instructions, I could use some help on
> how to rid these programs off my computer.

Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by Ron

Ron
Thu Jun 30 19:47:56 CDT 2005

Jillyfish <Jillyfish@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I downloaded a couple of stand alone, freware programs, I tried to get rid of
>them but...there was no unistall feature built into the programs and the
>programs were not listed under the add/remove program, their web sites
>support was 'pay for help'. I dragged the progams into my trash, empited the
>trash and restarted. The programs location under properties were listed as
>being on my desktop, (not a shortcut on the desktop).

Did you get rid of these programs that way or are you still being
bothered by them?

> Now when I start my
>computer in safe mode and right hand click the 'my computer' logo and
>go>properties>performace...I get a message that says "Real mode driver or
>memory resident program loaded in config.sys or autoexec.bat file" and when I
>click for more info I get..."Drive X is using an MS-DOS mode file system, a
>driver listed in the Config.sys file" and also "Compatibility mode reduces
>overall system performace".

These messages are normal and expected when you are running Windows Me
in Safe Mode. Nothing to be worried about.

>..How do I get rid of this program. I am not a
>wizkid at computers but I can follow instructions, I could use some help on
>how to rid these programs off my computer.

We are talking about these old DOS programs again?

They cannot be loading via Autoexec.bat or config.sys, at least not in
Windows Me. If they are loading via the Registry, the system.ini
file, or the win.ini file then they should be listed on the Startup
tab of MSCONFIG.

This may take a bit, but please copy all of the items that are listed
on the Startup of MSCONFIG and post that this back here.

That may help us to decipher what is going on.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by Jillyfish

Jillyfish
Sun Jul 03 23:21:02 CDT 2005

Here is what I copied

I did a search for files called Config.sys and I found 4 files named
Config.sys One is located at C:\ and was created a couple of days ago when I
did the downloads, there is 0 bytes and it is empty.

The second is located at C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD It has no created date but
says it was modified when I got my computer in 2000 and has 847kb in it. This
is what I copied from notepad:

[menu]
menuitem=HELP, Help
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menuitem=QUICK, Minimal Boot
menudefault=HELP,30
menucolor=7,0

[HELP]
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048

[CD]
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048

[NOCD]
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048

[QUICK]

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
lastdrive=z


The third is located C:\program files\rescue disk it was created only a few
days ago but modified 3 years ago (how is that possible)? It has 16kb I
copied this from notepad: device=ifshlp.sys

The fourth one is located in C:\backup and has only 47kb and I copied this
from notepad:

REM [CD-ROM Drive]
REM [Miscellaneous]


I have 2 Autoexec.bat files, I can't copy and paste the info, what should I
look for in there? 1 file, only says:

Bad command or file name
Not ready reading drive A
Abort,Retry,Fail?


anything in the files that suggest where and what the memory resident
program is? I never had a problem like this before until I used the registry
scan and fix tool. Now my system resoures are low.

Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by Ron

Ron
Mon Jul 04 15:46:46 CDT 2005

Jillyfish <Jillyfish@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Here is what I copied
>
>I did a search for files called Config.sys and I found 4 files named
>Config.sys One is located at C:\ and was created a couple of days ago when I
>did the downloads, there is 0 bytes and it is empty.

That is the "dummy" file automatically created by WindowsMe to satisfy
certain shoddily programmed applications that insist that the file
c:\config.sys does exist.


>
> The second is located at C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD It has no created date but
>says it was modified when I got my computer in 2000 and has 847kb in it. This
>is what I copied from notepad:


That is the file that is copied to a 3.5 inch emergency boot diskette
using Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs. The folder name EBD is an
abbrevation for Emergency Boot Diskette and the folder contents are
those files that are put onto the diskette. This file will never be
processed when you boot the computer from the hard drive.


<snip>

> The third is located C:\program files\rescue disk it was created only a few
>days ago but modified 3 years ago (how is that possible)? It has 16kb I
>copied this from notepad: device=ifshlp.sys

It was created by some application or other. You should be able to
safely delete this entire folder.


>
>The fourth one is located in C:\backup and has only 47kb and I copied this
>from notepad:
>
>REM [CD-ROM Drive]
>REM [Miscellaneous]

This is probably a backup folder created by some installation program.
It is not a standard Windows folder name. Again, I suggest that you
can safely delete the folder and all of its contents.


>
>
>I have 2 Autoexec.bat files, I can't copy and paste the info, what should I
>look for in there? 1 file, only says:
>
>Bad command or file name
>Not ready reading drive A
>Abort,Retry,Fail?
>

The only autoexec.bat file that can possibly be processed by Windows
Me when it starts up is the one in the root directory of drive C: If
Windows Me finds such a file when it starts up it will take the
following actions:

1. Process any environment variable settings (SET commands) in the
file and add these to the registry data.
2. Ignore everything repeat everything else in the file
3. Delete the file when it has finished processing it.
4. Create a new, completely empty, autoexec.bat file to replace this
one.

Exactly the same procedures apply to the CONFIG.SYS file.



>anything in the files that suggest where and what the memory resident
>program is? I never had a problem like this before until I used the registry
>scan and fix tool.

What tool was this, exactly? Program name?


> Now my system resoures are low.

We can address that one just as soon as we clear up your original
problems.

What exactly are your remaining issues when you startup Windows Me
normally? Please include the complete *verbatim* text of the error
messages.

If you are getting advisory messages about items loaded via the
config.sys or autoexec.bat files then this probably means that you
have installed some (shoddily programmed) utility or device driver
that insists on having these files customized and therefore modifies
them after the bootup. Some old sound card drivers were notorious
for doing this.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Re: Removal of MSDOS memory resident program by Jillyfish

Jillyfish
Thu Jul 07 09:45:08 CDT 2005

Ron hi and thanks for all of your help! I really appreciate it! I will try
to give more info:

First: I have had some problems in the past that might now be effecting
windows.

A few weeks ago I downloaded some freeware programs ( I believe I have now
deleted them?). Also at the same time I downloaded some critical window
updates. I
also used the registry scan and fix tool,it is under
programs>accessories>system tools>system information>tool tab and registry
checker. It found
an error in my registry and asked if I wanted it corrected, I choose
yes and then most of my computer settings went back to the way they
were when I bought it 5 years ago.

That includes email accounts,
explorer settings, IE went back to the older 5.0 version. Outlook
express also went back to an older version. All of my emails and email
drafts disapperered.

A couple of years ago my Norton antivirus was shut off and in one day I got
2 viruses. One was the 32 klez virus it damaged a lot of programs, some I
reinstalled, others I deleted as I never used them. When I got Norton back up
it said it had fixed the problem and elimated the virus. However when I used
the registry checker just recently and it found and fixed errors in a bad
registy could what have happened been: Norton in getting rid of the virus
deleted registry keys that were damaged by the virus and then wrote other
registry keys as a patch for the damaged and removed original keys....and
then years latter when I scan the registry the registry tool sees Nortons
registry keys as errors and elminates them leaving me with missing keys
causing the msdos compatibility conflict? Does that sound possible? Thanks
for the help, JILL



> What exactly are your remaining issues when you startup Windows Me
> normally? Please include the complete *verbatim* text of the error
> messages.

The problem in normal mode is, with one explorer window open and no other
programs running, I have 54% of my 256 ram memory free, which is way down in
free memory from before these issues came about. I am using selective startup
and have only 7 programs clicked to run under system configuration utility>
start up.


> If you are getting advisory messages about items loaded via the
> config.sys or autoexec.bat files then this probably means that you
> have installed some (shoddily programmed) utility or device driver
> that insists on having these files customized and therefore modifies
> them after the bootup. Some old sound card drivers were notorious
> for doing this.

I just tried a clean boot by unchecking everthing in the system
configuration utility, except load startup group remained grayed and checked
and under startup tab I only had *Statemgr. In safe mode I still got these
following messages:

I have recently downloaded some freeware programs and window updates, I
also used the registry checker in 'system information' tools. It found
an error in my registry and asked if I wanted it corrected, I choose
yes and then most of my computer settings went back to the way they
were when I bought it 5 years ago. That includes email accounts,
explorer settings,IE went back to the older 5.0 version. Outlook
express also went back to an older version. All of my emails and email
drafts disapperered. My spelling check would no longer work in OE and
it said it could not find Picture It Publish It 2000,(which I had
previously deleted years ago). I had a virus a couple of years ago that
damaged some programs, some I reinstalled, others I deleted as I never
used them.....I managed to get all of my settings back.


BUT: When I start in Safe Mode and check system resources under my
system properies>performace I get 3 messages in the view pane, they
say:


SOME DRIVES ARE USING MS-DOS COMPATIBILITY MODE and DRIVE A IS USING
MS-DOS COMPATIBILITY MDOE FILE SYSTEM and DRIVE C IS USING MS-DOS
COMPATIBILITY MDOE FILE SYSTEM


Under details for the first message it says "Windows Millennium Edition
was unable to identify a real-mode driver or memory-resident program
loaded in your Config.sys or Autoexec.bat file. You will see another
message that lists the name of the driver or program causing the
problem.
Because Windows Millennium Edition could not identify the driver or
program, it has switched to MS-DOS compatibility mode to ensure the
program will run. However, this decreases overall performance. To
improve performance, remove the program or driver causing the problem,
or contact its manufacturer for an upgraded version."


Under details for the second message about Driver A it says:
"Drive X is using an MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
This problem often occurs on more than one drive. Usually it is caused
by a driver listed in the Config.sys file that Windows Millennium
Edition does not recognize and that is related to the message
Compatibility mode paging reduces overall system performance. If you
see both messages, see the Help for the Compatibility mode paging
reduces overall system performance message first. If you only see the
message Drive X is using an MS-DOS compatibility mode file system on
one drive, that drive is using an MS-DOS compatibility (real-mode)
driver, which might reduce that drive's performance. Contact your
hardware manufacturer to see if an updated driver is available for your
drive. If not, the drive's performance might be less than optimal,
but you can still use it."


The message under Driver C is the the same as the message for Driver A.


What can I do to fix this? A month ago I would have had 94% free system
resources in safe mode and %85 online, Now I have 81% in safe mode and
56% online with only one window open and nothing in my start up folder.
When I multi task my computer runs out of memory, it didn't to that a
month ago. Any help will be appreciated!